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I've just received a text from Newlyns saying they will attend tomorrow to remove goods.

I also accidentally deleted the text!!!

so can't remember the exact words a

nd don't have the mobile number it came from. I

remember it said to call 'this number' now.

 

This debt is a liability order from Canterbury Magistrates for non payment of council tax.

I own a small flat near there which is way too small for my family and which I'm trying to sell.

I've never lived in it.

 

Council have charged me a full year's tax with no rebate -

which I will need to look into as it's 25% rebate

most other places for single occupant (or no occupant?).

 

I have been unemployed for nearly two years and now have a job.

But Newlyns demanded I pay the £1200 over 6 months even though I was unemployed

when I spoke to them.

 

Having been unemployed for so long it's really crippling me trying to catch up with all my unpaid bills now,

to the point where I have nothing left each month within a week of pay day.

 

Sometimes I have to cancel a standing order.

I didn't pay Newlyn in November and I didn't pay them in January.

I'm just too broke.

 

I'm facing a huge council tax bill where I'm living now which will probably need to be paid by April,

which is £1100 and I'm hoping my daughter will have her housing benefit sorted by then so they will reduce the bill.

 

I don't know how to deal with Newlyns.

I've read some of the sticks about bailiff actions etc but I think this firm are really hard.

 

I think it's disgusting that a bailiff company can be successful enough to be a PLC in this day and age. I'm scared.

 

Does anyone know what I should do?

I have never had them visit my current address or discuss any belongings with them.

I know they asked for my NI number when I originally spoke to them.

They said it was to check I wasn't working.

 

thanks

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Bailiff can only remove goods if he has a valid levy and as I assume you are NOT going to let him then he is full of hot air. They could however remove goods of any value from outside - car, gas BBQ etc. They cannot under any circumstances force entry unless they have had peaceful entry previously.


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Due to council budget cuts, most now charge the full amount for unoccupied properties. To be considered for a council tax benefit, you would have had to complete a form for the council, setting out your full financial circumstances. Councils will sometimes consider a backdated council tax benefit application, but I don't believe from I have read, that they have to do this. It is discretionary.

 

Suggest a phone call to the council to register a complaint and to inform them of any issues of vulnerability. You might be able to get them to put the bailiff on hold, while they look at your case. Get your local Citizens Advice involved, if you have to.


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Thanks. I won't let them in.

But the text came out of nowhere -

no letters or calls etc, just the text.

 

I was hoping to stay under their radar for another 18 days when I could pay the monthly amount. I

 

've got about 2 or 3 payments left to make.

But I have to pay out over £2k per month before we can even buy food.

Honestly. And that doesn't cover gas, electric, water etc.

The cost of rent is horrendous and I have a loan on that flat which expires in June

so I've got to sell it by then.

 

I'm in a financial mess, on a DMP and losing the will to live.

And these collectors won't listen to anything you say - just pay up or else.

 

I don't know what a levy is?

But I guess I'll have to try and borrow some money from someone just to get them off my back.

 

thanks for your quick responses.

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its council tax

if you can pay anything

 

pay the council directly.

 

cut out the bailiff

 

he cant charge anything for sending you a text msg.

I would not be entering into any dialog with the bailiffs

 

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Thanks DX, but I tried phoning the council once I realised it had gone to court/bailiffs but they told me to deal with Newlyn. I have managed to borrow half the amount and I will pay that electronically tonight but there's nothing more I can do.

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that's the way

 

they cant refuse it that way.

 

send them an email about your next payment and when.

 

if the bailiff turns up

 

simply tell him

 

if you wish

 

you are dealing with the council directly

 

you don't HAVE to converse at all

through a window is best

 

even better is to film it on a mobile phone.

 

if he does visit

1st visit is £18.50 2nd is £24.50

 

that's all he can charge

 

don't get taken in by threats of police locksmiths etc.

 

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thanks, you've put my mind at rest. Much appreciated.

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Just make sure all cars are away from the property or he will levy them. In fact be aware that Newlyn may already claim a levy on a car posxsibly a neighbours or a random one parked nearby. If they have levied a car other than yours, the levy is unlawful and all and any fees associated with it must be removed.


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There is no law that says you have to deal with or speak to a Bailiff.

 

As has been said you may pay the Council direct but will have to budget for lawful Bailiff costs. If unsure then ask them for a breakdown, it's bound to be littered with things they claim to have done but probably haven't.


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Hi,

 

Sorry I may be a day late on this one.

.. perhaps not as I am aware of Newlyn's tactics and have posted a few threads.

 

My dealings with them are also for Canterbury Council Tax,

and currently I have an upcoming meeting scheduled with both the head of council tax at Canterbury and Newlyn's Client Manager

because of their outrageous behaviour and charging and I have been in touch with a reporter from the Times

who is waiting for the outcome of the meeting to write a further article.

 

My advice is to do the following to get them held off very quickly:

 

Contact the Canterbury Local MP - Mr Brazier

(I have met with him several times for Canterbury City Council Tax Collection

and he is concerned about Newlyn's practices so may be able to fast track a response out of the council).

 

He has been instrumental in sending letters for my case to the chief exec of Canterbury City Council

and was responsible for halting a lot of Newlyn's silly behaviour.

 

Send a recorded letter to Newlyn and email them a copy and if possible fax a copy all at the same time, requesting a breakdown of their fees...

. I guarantee they will be incorrect and even would go as far as fraudulent.

 

Demand times and dates when they have visited your property.

This most certainly won't exist and the fees will be wrong.

 

By emailing and sending them a letter and fax, you will most certainly get them to hold the account for a minimum of 10 days.

 

In my case,

they had added over £300 of bogus fees which when challenged they maintained for a long time,

even though it then transpired they had levied on a car which not only wasn't ours, but according to the DVLA doesn't even exist.

These fees were subsequently revoked.

 

When I pressed them further on their visit days and times and requested paperwork to prove their visitations,

they allegedly had a system error which mysteriously deleted all the relevent paperwork.

 

As a result you can understand why Mr. Brazier MP and Canterbury City Council

have some serious concerns about their practices in our area.

 

Thirdly,

send a recorded letter, fax and email to council tax dept. again outlining the problems you have..

. I would of thought you could be classed as vulnerable (with the DMP etc.).

 

Again whilst this may not force their hand in the first instance to withdraw the debt from Newlyn,

it may certainly buy you some time with the account on stop whilst you work out a battle plan.

 

Good luck and I'll be more than happy to discuss further my case if it is relevent to yours.

 

In the meantime remember....

 

Unless Newlyn have already been in your home, they have no right to do so.

 

They can bang and holler on the door as much as they like but you don't have to let them in.

And if you do have a car, park it a 5/10 minute walk away and there is pretty much bugger all they can do.

 

The text messages you have received saying we will vist XYZ are likely just a scare tactic

and the bailiff is highly unlikely to attend at the text message time

- I have at least 10 of the messages stored on my phone, and not one of them was adhered to.

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1st visit is £18.50 and 2nd is £24.50,how come i get a first visit charge £58

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1st visit is £18.50 and 2nd is £24.50,how come i get a first visit charge £58

 

Two different types of debt. £24-50 &£18-00 are for Council Tax. Yours will be for a PCN.


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Thanks how silly of me ,

 

Not at all, something we all do from time to time.


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