Cash4phones - creditors meeting - 13th Jan Please retweet - https://cag.tw/tf7

[Apriumben]

I would be interested to know how many people got a letter advising them of the creditors meeting? The liquidator should I believe advise all known creditors in writing, in advance. I did not get a letter. If you were owed money by C4P please confirm if you did, or did not, get advised by Capital Books, in advance. This information might be very useful.

[Chipmeister]

I would be interested to know how many people got a letter advising them of the creditors meeting? The liquidator should I believe advise all known creditors in writing, in advance. I did not get a letter. If you were owed money by C4P please confirm if you did, or did not, get advised by Capital Books, in advance. This information might be very useful.

 

The directors are obliged to provide the proposed liquidators with details of all known creditors, ie all creditors known to them, so if a creditor hasn't had a letter it's because the directors haven't provided that information. Or because that creditor isn't known to them.

 

Hope that helps.

 

All the best,

CM

[BankFodder]

That begs the question then - have the directors provided the liquidators with the details of the unpaid owners of mobile phones. Probably not. They should probably be asked about this. I expect that this is something that the directors would rather not do. I'll almost bet that they don't even have the list.

I expect that the liquidators would refuse to reveal the details of such a list - but I doubt whether they could object to revealing how many people were on the list.

[BankFodder]

More people:-

 

 

• CHRISTOPHER GEORGIO - 4 BROADGATE
  
• VASANT KARA - 13 FAKENHAM CLOSE MILL HILL , UNITED KINGDOM
  
• MUTHU ANTHONY CROOS - 173 LEUCHA ROAD , UNITED KINGDOM
  
• MUTHU ANTHONY CROOS - 173 LEUCHA ROAD , UNITED KINGDOM
  
• DANIEL CHRISOSTOMOU - 15 GATEWAY MEWS RINGWAY , UNITED KINGDOM
  
• CHRISTOPHER GEORGIOU - 37 , UNITED KINGDOM
  
• FLORENTIA SOTERIOU - 69 SLADES HILL
  
• VASANT KARA - 13 FAKENHAM CLOSE MILL HILL
  
• REBECCA YOUNG - 57A CHELMSFORD ROAD , 57A CHELMSFORD ROAD ,N14 5PY UNITED KINGDOM
  
• NEARCHOS CHACHOLIADES - SUITE 21 5 SPRING STREET PADDINGTON , UNITED KINGDOM
  

 

 

http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/philip-edward-henchoz

 

Anyone know the wherabouts of any of these people?

[BankFodder]

Vasant Kara - ex-director of C4P - and coincidentally an ex-director of AEO Trading. Large sums have apparently passed between these companies.

 

REGISTER EXTRACT

Title Number : AGL70127

Address of Property : 13 Fakenham Close, London (NW7 2SD)

Price Stated : £495,000

Registered Owner(s) : VASANT KARA and SUNITA KARA of 13 Fakenham Close, London

NW7 2SD.

Lender(s) : HSBC Bank PLC

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[AmandaC2601]

No i didnt get a letter either

[BankFodder]

Then I suggest that you complain to the liquidator - update the police and Trading Standards. It may be that the liquidation so far has not been properly conducted.

Also refer to Apriumben who I am sure will be looking at this thread later.

[sp_en_ny]

I never received a letter regarding the creditors meeting, I only found out by chance because I received an e-mail from another member. I find this strange especially as I took them to a small claims court for non payment of my phone and of course judgement went in my favour because they failed to respond. The liquidators have sent me a form to complete proving that money is owed, I just hope I still have all of the e-mails I received from C4P whereby they were confirmed in writing they have not paid me yet.

Edited January 16, 2014 by sp_en_ny

[BankFodder]

If you have a judgment against them that that is perfect proof of the debt. Send a copy of that - plus any other docs if you want - but the judgement should be fine

[jonbancroft1988]

Not sure what can be done with this information, but this is Nearchos, that alleged he couldn't speak English (contrary to the comments he makes on his own photos). https://www.facebook.com/nearchos.chacholiades

 

In the following images, the guy on his right, and left respectively, is his "translator" George Shiakallis, who gave a slightly different surname in the creditor meeting. The one shread of truth he spouted is that he has a law degree.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=485498928140155&set=a.367609289929120.83376.100000401555149&type=3&theater

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=680313171992062&set=a.367609289929120.83376.100000401555149&type=3&theater

 

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/george-shiakallis/45/2bb/b4b

The latter link shows that it is not Nearchos that owns the Cypriot recycling company but George, so what're the odds that George also runs the UK version and his mate Nearchos has agreed to be the front (or back) man? Explains why George could answer complicated questions in the meeting without consulting Nearchos.

 

George went to Leicester University, which is the same city where Mr Tank and his nice 911 reside. Perhaps they're mates from uni and Mr Tank is also on the legal roll.

Taking the conspiracy a bit further, but there is absolutely no electronic way that I can find of identifying Phil Henchoz...alias for George perhaps?

 

Sign up to this site:

https://www.duedil.com//director/913719595/hannah-margaret-bennett

and you get further details of foney finance companies owned by George, Vasant, Dipesh and co. that stem primarily from LPS Protect Ltd., including addresses for these companies...eventually you might hit upon one that isn't bogus.

 

Why do I now feel like I need some sort of witness protection?

Edited January 15, 2014 by jonbancroft1988

[jonbancroft1988]

Oh, and just in case they read this and take it all down, I have screenshots of everything for anybody who would still like to see pictures of, and read about, the people that stole their phone

Just let me know.

Edited January 15, 2014 by jonbancroft1988

[Master Tyke]

Your best bet at getting Justice is with the Insolvency service not the Police, their examiners have much more expertise and power in these cases than the Police, for example as court officers they do not need warrants to search directors or business premises and can freeze bank accounts.

 

The insolvency service would most certainly be interested in people acting as Shadow Directors.

Some examples http://insolvency.presscentre.com/search/default.aspx?NewsAreaId=2&SearchText=shadow%20director

 

Also see Insolvency Service a guide for creditors

http://www.bis.gov.uk/assets/insolvency/docs/publication-word/guide-for-creditors-13-1199.doc

Edited January 15, 2014 by Master Tyke

[Chipmeister]

Then I suggest that you complain to the liquidator - update the police and Trading Standards. It may be that the liquidation so far has not been properly conducted.

Also refer to Apriumben who I am sure will be looking at this thread later.

 

This is nothing to do with the liquidator - the liquidator can only work with the information he is given by the directors before he is appointed. Once he is appointed he then has the authority to take possession of the company's books and records, whatever they may be, or indeed if there are any. You'd be surprised! :@oAs for the list of creditors, there are probably so many that the directors lost track and a full list may very well not exist but this is not the fault of the liquidator. The liquidator is the person who will be carrying out the investigations, he was instructed by the directors but now he is appointed his job is to work for the creditors. Please try and stay focused on that point and try and form a liquidation committee as soon as you have the requisite 3 to 5 people willing to act.Hope this is of help.All the best,CM

[helkingst]

Sent 3 phones and quoted £202, had no payment and issued them with a CCJ earlier in the month but still had no response. I have also contacted Action Fraud, Trading Standards and the police didnt want to know> After reading an article on 19th Jan about the upcoming meeting i emailed Capital Books and have not heard anything from them, any advice what I can do next as I am so angry that these people should be allowed to get away with fraudulently taking peoples phones and leaving the out of pocket

[iyuk]

this situation is really starting to grit my s**t , what can be done to get justice?

 

have there been any minutes posted from the creditors meeting?

 

i've logged with action fraud and have a crime number, contacted companies house to see if they can stop the company being closed, what more can we do?

 

i fear this will end badly and no one will see justice, if they had set out to be an honest company and had fallen on hard times, struggled and gone but that's one thing, but going by the shadow directors, transfers of cash between companies and other evidence they've obviously set out to defraud people form the very start. if they get away with this it just shows what a country we live in, this is a massive large scale crime and should be dealt with as such.

[Apriumben]

Not sure what can be done with this information, but this is Nearchos, that alleged he couldn't speak English (contrary to the comments he makes on his own photos). https://www.facebook.com/nearchos.chacholiades

 

 

Well done Jon. Have you passed this on to the liquidator yet? Incidentally both facebook links don't work for me

[Apriumben]

Nearchos has also changed his facebook photo (now blank), proves they are reading this forum

[rebel11]

I was going to suggest the Site Team, set up one of their special rooms, but that would involve 'vetting' etc.

[BankFodder]

jonbancroft1988 - please will you contact me by email at our admin address. Please include a contact number as my emails will go to your spam box

Thanks

[BankFodder]

Here's a pic of George - the interpreter. No suggestion of course that he is involved in this - but he does run a very similar sounding kind of business in Cyprus.

 

Looks like a very nice boy.

 

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[BankFodder]

And here are some pics of Nearchos

 

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[Apriumben]

See daily mirror article today

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/andrew-penman-cash4phones-bosses-meet-3026912

[Apriumben]

And here are some pics of Nearchos

 

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the guy in the front of your last pict (nearchos.jpg) looks like George to me

[jonbancroft1988]

Here you have the whole gang. Nearchos is in the blinding shirt. Guy on the right is George.

 

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I was considering drafting a statement and walking into a City of London police station with it (they apparently specialise in financial crime). However, what do we have here? Vomit-worthy photographs, a splash of coincidence and some idle speculation that's bordering on libelous. Unless the policeman/insolvency agent has read this whole thread and has a conspiratorial (is that a word?) mind, they'll look at me as if I've got two heads. I don't even have the qualifications or understanding to explain the money-laundering aspect properly.

 

Moreover, all that electronic digging and explanation took me the better part of a day so I can't afford to spend too much more time on this. No I've not passed it on yet...what's the best way to do it without opening a new case?

 

I'll shoot admin a message now.

Edited January 16, 2014 by jonbancroft1988

[unibumuk]

Jonathan, you've done an amazing job on this. I hope we bring these crooks to justice. They cannot get away with this forever, ruining people's livelihoods