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Hi all,

 

I've had the usual experience of being told my payment of £152 is pending and then not receiving anything. Contacted them by email but got no response.

 

Started filling in the MCOL form today (22/12/13), went to the C4P website to get the full postal address...and the website has gone.

I've read a few posts saying they have changed company names.

 

New to all this. Can I bring an action against a company that has ceased trading? Can I bring an action against a new company name and address (even though my contract was with C4P)? Or have I missed the boat completely?

 

Appreciate I should have done my research, but this still feels a lot like theft to me.

 

Any strategy advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Jonathan

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The owner has ran off as he has multiple agencies after them and seems to be trying to hide by changing the companies name amongst other stuff.


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The C4P website still seems to be down. Rather than it has vanished, I suspect they are changing it to make t seem like a different company. A case of wait and see.


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The C4P website still seems to be down. Rather than it has vanished, I suspect they are changing it to make t seem like a different company. A case of wait and see.

 

Thanks! Sorry, should have waited for panic mode to end and common sense to kick in before posting.

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You could always go to companies house and do a webcheck on the company name to see if they are still in existence.

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They exist, they've just changed trading names. I guess I was looking for an answer to: Do I bring an action against the name they used when I entered into an agreement with them, or do I use their new company name and address?

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You can only bring action on the company you had an issue with or the director. You cant bring it on a different company as they are legally a seperate entity. It's like having a problem with B&Q and sending a claim to wickes.


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I have a claim against C4P on MCOL. The Judgement against them has been entered but still no sign of my money. If they are changing name, is it even worthwhile getting a warrant issued, as there is a £100 charge for this?

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Nope. No point at all.


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Must be something we can do. Can't have these ***** getting away with it

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Unless they come back as that company, or you issue the CCJ on the director, then sadly theres nothing. The police and trading standards are involved and are looking for them, but they are seemingly in hiding.


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I am in an identical situation with cash4phones regarding the MCOL. I have also won a judgement against c4p and still have not received the money. I have since found out that this company that was operating legitimately albeit morally questionably is now no longer even operating. The website is down and the address they provided at 15 Gateway Mews, Ring Way, London, N11 2UT is not currently and apparently has never been occupied by c4p. I found this out by ringing an insurance company next door. This makes the £100 warrant option totally null and void as these criminals have now set up a new company and changed their name. There is however a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. I have already contacted companies house a few weeks ago and was informed that c4p was striking off (dissolving the company), but if I was able to provide sufficient evidence that I was engaged in legal proceedings then the company would remain live...

 

 

 

The letter I received....

 

"Dear Mr Panteli

 

C4P HOLDINGS LIMITED - 07474171

 

Thank you for your e-mail.

 

I am writing to acknowledge receipt of your objection to the striking off and dissolution of the above company.

 

Please note that the above action has been suspended until 12/03/2014.

 

If you wish to maintain the objection after that date, you would need to apply again in writing enclosing documentary evidence of what action you are taking against the company. This evidence should be received at least 2 weeks before the objection expires.

 

If no evidence is received the striking off action will continue and this may result in the company being dissolved from the register of limited companies.

 

I would be grateful if you could confirm whether you would be agreeable for your identity, as the objector, to be disclosed.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Neil Hughes

Case Officer

Dissolution Section

Companies House "

 

 

So come on people, we still have a chance to get these bottom of gutter pitiful excuse for human beings. Lets gets our money back and watch these peoples lives ruined and they loose there friends and family and get convicted by the British law authorities. What else can we do???

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Not surprised in the least. Apparently no fewer than 437 companies occupy the same postcode (according to the post office a post code can be a single business address or between 15 and 20 residential addresses).

 

Perhaps someone who has been affected by this company should call the Insolvency Service hotline details below:

 

 

Investigations Hotline number is – 0845 601 3546. This is a 24 hour answer phone facility which allows you to leave your contact details so we can acknowledge your contact and send you the appropriate questionnaire.

 

 

Director Is:

MR SAVVAS KOUMOURIS

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I have a claim against C4P on MCOL. The Judgement against them has been entered but still no sign of my money. If they are changing name, is it even worthwhile getting a warrant issued, as there is a £100 charge for this?

 

I wonder what worth there is in employing an HCEO for £60

 

seen what they can do on the TV programme call the sheriffs.

 

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I wonder what worth there is in employing an HCEO for £60

 

seen what they can do on the TV programme call the sheriffs.

 

dx

 

Most of that program is simple enhanced because its on tv. The bailiffs on that shopw are very stuck up and self righteous. Notice how multiple times the charges seem to increase for no reason at all, then the program cuts to somewhere else?


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good let them C4P needs ripping off!!

 

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Regarding the suspending the dissolving of the company,

 

I'd love to do all I can to give these [EDIT] their comeuppance.

 

Don't have a legal background though so if I can get advice on how to do this then I will do it.

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I have reported cash4phones to company house.

 

Have you had any luck? I suppose it is christmas/new year now...

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i've had a similar issue, posted on another thread with my progress so far....

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?410658-looks-like-i-might-be-their-next-victim..Cash4phones..-(&p=4433206#post4433206

 

it would appear that they're being looked at by police etc. so hopefully they won't be allowed to close the Ltd company and we can all make a claim against them, trouble i assume is that if they have evidence of the company having no assets to divide among its claimants we could get nothing, maybe the best that could happen is they're prosecuted for fraud, hard to prove and what would we get back as a result?

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i've had a similar issue, posted on another thread with my progress so far....

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?410658-looks-like-i-might-be-their-next-victim..Cash4phones..-(&p=4433206#post4433206

 

it would appear that they're being looked at by police etc. so hopefully they won't be allowed to close the Ltd company and we can all make a claim against them, trouble i assume is that if they have evidence of the company having no assets to divide among its claimants we could get nothing, maybe the best that could happen is they're prosecuted for fraud, hard to prove and what would we get back as a result?

 

I suppose we will just have to wait and see.

The financial reports stated that they definitely have

Assets if not profits. Wish I could catch them selling our phones on eBay ....or where ever they are selling our phones.

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i've had a similar issue, posted on another thread with my progress so far....

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?410658-looks-like-i-might-be-their-next-victim..Cash4phones..-(&p=4433206#post4433206

 

it would appear that they're being looked at by police etc. so hopefully they won't be allowed to close the Ltd company and we can all make a claim against them, trouble i assume is that if they have evidence of the company having no assets to divide among its claimants we could get nothing, maybe the best that could happen is they're prosecuted for fraud, hard to prove and what would we get back as a result?

 

 

You could have 100 claims against them. It doesnt mean anything if you cant find the director and the company has no assets because he's taken them and gone into hiding.


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Another person in the same position here. Keep me posted how you get on, I'm at a loss what to do after reading your comments.

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Hi Does anybody know a directors personal address?

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Nobody does. Not even the police. He lives abroad too so aby court action right now is pointless


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