Universal Credit

[odds]

Hi,

 

Just a quick question regarding UC.

A relative recently found himself out of work recently, thankfully only briefly, and he was told to apply for UC.

During his claim term, 3 weeks, he needed to have a tooth out, which is no problem as on UC you can get free dental treatment.

However, he got a letter from NHS Dental Services stating that they have no record of him being on Income Based JSA at the time of the treatment and they want written proof that he was. There is a 5 page questionaire to fill in and nowhere at all does it mention UC, is this just a sign that the computer systems have not been updated to take this new benefit into account ?

 

In the past this would be no problem, but he has got nothing to prove it as his claim was all done online at the Job Center with an 'advisor' and the only documents he got were leaflets about the Rules and Regulations about claiming UC.

Anyway that is not the point I wanted to enquire about.

I have just been reading that UC does not replace Contribution Based JSA, which he would surely have been entitled to in the first place having worked full time since leaving school 9 years ago.

Was he misadvised or am I missing something obvious ?

 

Can anyone clarify the situation please.

 

Pete.

[45002]

Hi,

 

Just a quick question regarding UC.

A relative recently found himself out of work recently, thankfully only briefly, and he was told to apply for UC.

During his claim term, 3 weeks, he needed to have a tooth out, which is no problem as on UC you can get free dental treatment.

However, he got a letter from NHS Dental Services stating that they have no record of him being on Income Based JSA at the time of the treatment and they want written proof that he was. There is a 5 page questionaire to fill in and nowhere at all does it mention UC, is this just a sign that the computer systems have not been updated to take this new benefit into account ?

 

In the past this would be no problem, but he has got nothing to prove it as his claim was all done online at the Job Center with an 'advisor' and the only documents he got were leaflets about the Rules and Regulations about claiming UC.

Anyway that is not the point I wanted to enquire about.

I have just been reading that UC does not replace Contribution Based JSA, which he would surely have been entitled to in the first place having worked full time since leaving school 9 years ago.

Was he misadvised or am I missing something obvious ?

 

Can anyone clarify the situation please.

 

Pete.

 

 

 

Not everything on NHS dental care is free !

 

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcosts/Pages/universal-credit.aspx

 

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/dentists/Pages/dental-%20emergency-and-out-of-hours-care.aspx

 

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/dentists/Pages/nhs-dental-charges.aspx

Edited December 19, 2013 by 45002

[odds]

Not everything on NHS dental care is free !

 

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcosts/Pages/universal-credit.aspx

 

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/dentists/Pages/dental-%20emergency-and-out-of-hours-care.aspx

 

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/dentists/Pages/nhs-dental-charges.aspx

 

Thanks for the links, although I couldn't find anything that would suggest treatment was not free if you are entitled to UC in his circumstances.

I did find this though:

 

You do not have to pay if, during the course of treatment, you or your partner, receive:

Income Support

Income-related Employment and Support Allowance

Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance

Pension Credit guarantee credit

Universal Credit

 

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcosts/Pages/Dentalcosts.aspx

 

I also spotted this small statement:

 

Most forms will not yet have a box for Universal Credit. If this is the case, you should tick the box for income-based Jobseeker's Allowance

 

It would appear to me that this is causing some confusion to people doing checks somewhere down the line.

 

Pete.

[antone]

I have just been reading that UC does not replace Contribution Based JSA, which he would surely have been entitled to in the first place having worked full time since leaving school 9 years ago.

Was he misadvised or am I missing something obvious ?

 

Can anyone clarify the situation please.

 

Pete.

 

UC does not replace JSA©, which remains available. Does he have a partner who doesn't work?

[45002]

Hi,

 

he needed to have a tooth out

 

Could be wrong,but the way I read it is

 

Because OP relative has had a "Extraction" that is not covered by "Routine treatment" there would cost one off charge of £18.00.

[antone]

Could be wrong but,think because OP freind has had a "Extraction" that is not covered and would cost one off charge of £18.00.

 

Perhaps - I'm in Scotland where the rules are sometimes different - but it seems to me that the NHS isn't arguing that the treatment is not covered for those on means tested benefits, but that OP's friend was not on means tested benefits. In respect of that matter, I'd ask the DWP office that processes the UC claim for an award letter.

[45002]

Perhaps - I'm in Scotland where the rules are sometimes different - but it seems to me that the NHS isn't arguing that the treatment is not covered for those on means tested benefits, but that OP's friend was not on means tested benefits. In respect of that matter, I'd ask the DWP office that processes the UC claim for an award letter.

 

I see what you mean and yes it's is All very confusing.

 

I think there is a one off charge for "Extraction" as it's not classed as routine treatment regardless of what income rated benefits someone may be receiving ?

 

You can get FREE treatment at a NHS dental hospital,but there a waiting list and treatment is under taken by students training to become a Dentist under supervision of a Consultant.

[odds]

Perhaps - I'm in Scotland where the rules are sometimes different - but it seems to me that the NHS isn't arguing that the treatment is not covered for those on means tested benefits, but that OP's friend was not on means tested benefits. In respect of that matter, I'd ask the DWP office that processes the UC claim for an award letter.

 

That is the exact point antone, he has no dependants or partner, single and living with parents. What I can't understand though is why wasn't he told to claim JSA© which he would have been entitled to(I think).

 

Pete.