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From Companies House

Company Register Information

Company Number: 06300042

Date of Incorporation:03/07/2007

Company Name: C4P TRADING LIMITED

Registered Office:

SUITE 21 5 SPRING STREET

PADDINGTON

LONDON

UNITED KINGDOM

W2 3AQ

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Status: Active

Nature Of Business (SIC): 46520 - Wholesale of electronic and telecommunications equipment and parts

Number of Charges: ( 0 outstanding / 0 part satisfied / 0 satisfied)

Previous Names

Date of Change

Previous Name 17/03/2010 SMOKIN CRUSIES LIMITED

Key Filing Dates

Accounting Reference Date: 30/04

Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/04/2012 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL)

Next Accounts Due: 31/01/2014

Last Return Made Up To: 14/08/2013

Next Return Due: 11/09/2014

Last members list: 14/08/2013

Last Bulk Shareholders List: Not available

3

Current Appointments

Number of current appointments: 1

DIRECTOR: CHACHOLIADES, NEARCHOS MR

Appointed: 16/09/2013

Date of Birth: 01/12/1967

Nationality: CYPRIOT

No. of Appointments: 1

Address:

SUITE 21 5 SPRING STREET

PADDINGTON

LONDON

UNITED KINGDOM

W2 3AQ

Country/State of Residence: CYPRUS

This Report excludes resignations

4

Recent Filing History

Documents filed since 12/09/2012

DATE

FORM

DESCRIPTION

11/11/2013

TM01

APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR KYRIAKOS KOUMOURIS 31/10/2013

TM01

APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR SAVVAS KOUMOURIS 31/10/2013

AP01

DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR NEARCHOS CHACHOLIADES 31/10/2013

AP01

DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR KYRIAKOS KOUMOURIS 25/10/2013

AD01

REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 25/10/2013 FROMUNIT 15 GATEWAY MEWSRINGWAYLONDONN11 2UT 25/10/2013

TM01

APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR DEEPESH TANK 16/10/2013

AP01

DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR DEEPESH TANK 14/08/2013

AR01

14/08/13 FULL LIST

14/08/2013

LATEST SOC

14/08/13 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 1 13/08/2013

TM01

APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR DEEPESH TANK 13/08/2013

TM01

APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR DANIEL CHRISOSTOMOU 13/08/2013

AP01

DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR SAVVAS KOUMOURIS 22/06/2013

AR01

21/06/13 FULL LIST

23/05/2013

AP01

DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR DANIEL CHRISOSTOMOU 23/05/2013

TM01

APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR PHILIP HENCHOZ 01/05/2013

AP01

DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR PHILIP EDWARD HENCHOZ 24/04/2013

TM01

APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR PHILIP HENCHOZ 17/04/2013

AP01

DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR DEEPESH TANK 05/04/2013

AA

30/04/12 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL

12/09/2012

AR01

03/07/12 FULL LIST

This Report excludes 88(2) Share Allotment documents

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Philip E Henchoz in St Neots, PE19 - ex director - does anyone know anything about him?

 

Present director - NEARCHOS CHACHOLIADES, - he has just had a birthday. Does anyone know anything about him?

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Hey all

 

I managed to be duped into sending my 2 phones off to these guys. Have heard nothing at all.

 

They were on Watchdog at the end of October and mentioned in a Radio 4 show end of Nov.

 

That address btw - 5 Spring St, is a newsagent. I phoned them yesterday and he seemed a bit vague but allegedly keeps getting recorded mail, court orders etc and he "just gives them to the courier" then said "just returns to sender". The Radio 4 programme said their mailing account (at the newsagent) hadn't yet been activated.

 

Their "corporate" phone number lead me to some call answering service's main number where I spoke to a lady that seemed very bored of people asking about cash4phones.

 

Nice too how the company directors change every 10 minutes....

 

Oh yes, and the site's hosted in Russia. Great. http://ip-lookup.net/?158.255.7.179

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mg74/features/cash-4-phones Watchdog

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/programmes/money_box/transcripts/money_box_30_nov_13.pdf Radio 4

 

Just my two cents :)

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OK, so with BankFodder's updated info from Companies House (the site I was on didn't say about the latest director change), I found two more cents down the back of the sofa.

 

Nearchos Chacholiades is allegedly the current company director of c4p trading ltd.

 

To Google! First result - some guy in Cyprus on facebook OK.

 

2nd result - DueDil a Nearchos Chacholiades who is ex-secretary of LPS Protect Ltd. OK

 

3rd result - DueDil. Director of C4p trading Ltd. Possible Match - Director of LPS Protect Ltd as Nearchos Chachuliades.

 

(Maybe you can register for free but I just disabled Java and JavaScript in Firefox - not sure which it needed - and the pages loaded up fine)

 

Perhaps it's a naming convention I don't know of in Cyprus but it seems strange to have Chachuliades as director of the company and Chacholiades as ex-secretary. Coincidence?

 

OK, so this LPS Protect. Companies in the UK shows us this with info about a director and secretary with these two very similar names and ages. Clicking on each of the names 1 / 2 brings up that they both live at the same address in Limassol, Cyprus.

 

8 Andreas Zappa Str, Flat 303

Galaxia Mansions

Limassol

Put. Yermasuyias 4040

Cyprus

 

Limassol, Cyprus is where our friend from earlier on Facebook appears to live. He appears to be about 46ish. Is this cover photo the crew that runs Cash4Phones?

 

Cheers n bye, I'd best grab some good old tea!

 

Edit: Forgot, I rang the CAB yesterday to explain as much info as I had then; they said they would pass the info on to Trading Standards and that I should in my own case get a letter off to them saying they're in breach of contract and that I expect either phones or full payment within x days else legal action. Not sure how much will come of that or if a call to the Police would/will help either me or in the grand scheme of things with these rip-off merchants.

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Hi I'm going to submit my claim to the courts today, do you think I should use the Cyprus address you posted? It might shake them up a bit to get a court summons so close to home????

 

 

QUOTE=overcharg3d;4415271]OK, so with BankFodder's updated info from Companies House (the site I was on didn't say about the latest director change), I found two more cents down the back of the sofa.

 

Nearchos Chacholiades is allegedly the current company director of c4p trading ltd.

 

To Google! First result - some guy in Cyprus on facebook OK.

 

2nd result - DueDil a Nearchos Chacholiades who is ex-secretary of LPS Protect Ltd. OK

 

3rd result - DueDil. Director of C4p trading Ltd. Possible Match - Director of LPS Protect Ltd as Nearchos Chachuliades.

 

(Maybe you can register for free but I just disabled Java and JavaScript in Firefox - not sure which it needed - and the pages loaded up fine)

 

Perhaps it's a naming convention I don't know of in Cyprus but it seems strange to have Chachuliades as director of the company and Chacholiades as ex-secretary. Coincidence?

 

OK, so this LPS Protect. Companies in the UK shows us this with info about a director and secretary with these two very similar names and ages. Clicking on each of the names 1 / 2 brings up that they both live at the same address in Limassol, Cyprus.

 

8 Andreas Zappa Str, Flat 303

Galaxia Mansions

Limassol

Put. Yermasuyias 4040

Cyprus

 

Limassol, Cyprus is where our friend from earlier on Facebook appears to live. He appears to be about 46ish. Is this cover photo the crew that runs Cash4Phones?

 

Cheers n bye, I'd best grab some good old tea!

 

Edit: Forgot, I rang the CAB yesterday to explain as much info as I had then; they said they would pass the info on to Trading Standards and that I should in my own case get a letter off to them saying they're in breach of contract and that I expect either phones or full payment within x days else legal action. Not sure how much will come of that or if a call to the Police would/will help either me or in the grand scheme of things with these rip-off merchants.

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You can only serve a mcol claim on an english or welsh address.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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Other people involved with this company at some time or other

 

Piers Crowley

 

Deepesh Tank - may be known as Dipesh Tank (likes fast cars)

 

NEARCHOS CHACHOLIADES, - present director - probably based in Cyprus

 

Phil Henchoz

 

MR VASANT KARA - who may be an IT consultant

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