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  • 4 weeks later...
You mean you've gone in,but yet to exit via 'out door' camera?

yes you got it,still no letter as to date but drove in to aldi last week only to exit 2 days later,well got to give them another chance,bless em!

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I went to aldi 2 weeks ago intending to test the genuine shopper clause again, but on leaving,the opportunity arose for the cameras to 'miss' my reg plate. I went back this weekend. Surely I won't get a 2 week over stay... ?

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  • 11 months later...

Quote from our local paper,


council chiefs have launched talks with aldi after a 2 hr parking limit was imposed at its car park in hednesford.


Cannock chace council says fewer people are now using the rugeley rd car park,

prompting fears of a knock on effect for other buisinesses.


Shoppers could be" FINED" by a private enforcement firm if they overstay the limit.


A report to the council states



"aldi have been informed that their decision to reduce the time limit without prior consultation is unacceptable.

now what I would like to do is notify the council of their scare mongering of the word "FINE"


and quote the legal representation of a "fine" on private property with a little legal help from the best caggers.


it has to be worth a laugh informing them of their little knowledge of the law.cheers.

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As usual,



the locl rag has gone off at half cock on a story when they could have had something quite decent to report.



I bet that PE have agreed/decided to restrcit parking on that site so they stand a chance of earning a few quid

but the planning consent for the store was given on a basis of free parking for a longer time.


I now expect the council will either enforce the planning consent or they will accept an application from Aldi to vary it.



What wont appear on the paperwork is that it is not jutified by loss of income to Aldi because customers cant park

but that PE cant make money without penalising people.



Likewise PE wont get fined for breaching planning law because they have no interest in the matter.



Now that, of course, is something we have been saying all along so that also means that they cant claim a contractual obligation

a they have no interest. Talk about eating your cake and having it!


If you point all of this out to the paper they might keep an eye on the proceedings

and print a story on what a duplicitous bunch of so-and-so's the parking cowboys

are when it comes to use and interpretation of law.


When I win the euromillions I am going to spend a couple of hundred thou on this and then there will be no question about who has rights to form or decline a contract.

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Press complaints commission ultimately BUT tip off the local rag and show them the error of their ways, but again, nothing will come of it, look at the likes of the Sun, they're still kicking about even after all of their untruths regarding Hilsborough.


If you get no joy with the rag and their complaints procedure, you simply have to try and embarrass them as publicly as you can so they hold no trust or respect with the people they survive off.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!



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The PCC no longer exists. It's now morphed into the "Independent (sic) Press Standards Organisation". Except it's still run by the newspaper industry, and is not in the form that Leverson wanted.

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did I not read some where that a local council told aldi or lidl, that if they wanted to apply for a change of the parking times /reduction, that they would have to close the store until the application had been considered ?????.

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first letter received ,


Glenn Watson


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Dear Mr alias jones


I have been passed your e-mail dated 5 November 2014 regarding the above. As the lead officer responsible for the successful delivery of the Hednesford Town Centre regeneration programme, I would be extremely concerned about any proposal by Aldi to impose further restrictions on their section of the Rugeley Road Car Park. I was speaking to the Regional Operations Director from Aldi in October and he indicated that there were no such proposals under consideration.


I have not seen the article or letter you have referred to in your e-mail which had no attachments. I would be very grateful if you could forward these to me so I can investigate further.




Glenn Watson

Planning & Economic Development Services Manager

Cannock Chase Council


Tel: 01543 464529

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second letter,

Glenn Watson


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Dear Mr alias Smith


Aldi are entitled to employ Parking Eye to manage their section of the car park by virtue of a Lease which was agreed between the Council and St Modwen developments who undertook the regeneration of Hednesford Town Centre. If they wished to do so they could operate Parking Eye throughout store opening times (8am until 10pm Mon - Sat and 10am to 4.00pm on Sundays with a 90 minute limit) however they have currently agreed to limit the operation of Parking Eye to 8am until 3pm. The details of this were not part of the planning permission which simply required the car park to be a short stay shoppers car park. As previously advised the initial 4 hr restriction operated from December 2013 until April 2014 when a 2 hour limit was imposed. There are currently no plans to introduce further restrictions.


The Council has played no part in 'posting articles in the media'. The Press often attend Council meetings and use the information to produce stories which are generally very inaccurate or based upon old information as in this case. In this context it is grossly unfair to desribe the Council as 'scaremongering'.


If you have an issue with the way Aldi and Parking Eye operate the car park it would be more appropriate to direct your concerns to those companies. The land in question is effectively private land and the legislation they use is civil law not statute law, as you have identified.


I do not think there is anything more I can add by way of explanation.


Glenn Watson

Cannock Chase Council

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