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[determindator]

Testing Testing 

 

I'm back in the room  on my laptop

Edited March 22, 2021 by determindator

[tobyjugg2]

 

13 hours ago, determindator said:

Thanks HB

 

Just watching bbc1 Covid who got it right. I welcome reports like this. There were many people I know who were unwell in December 2019 so my question is when did the powers that be in the world know about an impending pandemic. We should always be prepared for such health safety. Hindsight is history of past pandemics which should’ve been learnt from.

 

There are reports from earlier, but they were warnings of SARS/MERS like Coronavirus mutations (linked in the mutating Coronavirud thread), and dont forget MERS and SARS (Cov1)

.. but it was very clear that there were known problems before 12-14th Jan when widespread public announcements started to be made.

 

https://www.who.int/csr/don/14-january-2020-novel-coronavirus-thailand-ex-china/en/

https://www.e-lindsey.gov.uk/article/13347/Wuhan-Novel-Coronavirus-WN-CoV

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/new-virus-spreads-japan-man-falls-return-china/

 

Edited March 23, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[honeybee13]

I'm sorry to interrupt, guys. Do you think we could have this very interesting discussion on the Covid thread in the Bear Garden please?

 

HB

[BazzaS]

15 hours ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

@determindator The earliest warning signs were towards the end of January 2020 from what I remember. 

early reports of a novel highly transmissible respiratory virus were coming out of China in late December 2019, early Jan 2020.

there’s a reason it is ‘Covid19’ not ‘Covid20’

 

WHO didn’t issue a coronavirus alert on 31/12/19, but did note “Pneumonia on unknown cause - China” on 5/1/20

https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/

 

In terms of the U.K., I’m aware of the Reference Lab doing PCR testing in early February 2020, as I know for certain of a patient sample bring tested  on 1st February 2020. There was, however, a low number of samples being tested back then (sufficiently few that permission to send the sample was required from the Regional Virologist!, and the results were being telephoned out by the Reference Lab - no phoning out of even the positives a few months later !).

 

please feel free to move this across if need be.

 

 

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

This could be interesting when released.

Hope its as promising as it sounds

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/22/us-government-ufo-report-sightings

UFO report details ‘difficult to explain’ sightings, says US ex-intelligence director

US military pilots and satellites have recorded ‘a lot more’ UFO sightings than have been made public, John Ratcliffe says

[unclebulgaria67]

Signs of intelligent life on Earth 

 

You wonder why advanced life forms would visit Earth. 

 

Or does life on Earth exist in different time dimensions and occasionally humans from the future use time machines to visit as part of a history lesson.

 

Are there people from the future already living amongst us ? 

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

The number of pages I seem to see reported on this site I see says yes

 

As a downside, and weird entanglement effects aside that are as (un)reasonable as the cat in a box hypothesis, the one law that seem unbreakable is the limit of the speed of light, and the energy anything would require to get anywhere near it.

 

Seems to define interstellar or time travel as very unrealistic.

Edited March 23, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Simply cant resist it

It would require a quantum leap in technology

[unclebulgaria67]

But we are limited by current scientific knowledge.  Over the years previous scientific facts have later been disproved. 

 

There are a lot more unknowns than known knowns. 

 

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones"  Donald Rumsfeld 12/02/02

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

Absolutely

But the one 'law that has yet to fail any test  .. is e=mC2

 

Other dimensions (NOT the many worlds theory which is utter twaddle IMO) seem more likely IMO

or that they are from here ..

 

 

Edited March 23, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[unclebulgaria67]

4 minutes ago, tobyjugg2 said:

Absolutely

But the one 'law that has yet to fail any test  .. is e=mC2

 

 

 

 

 Some say that Einstein made mistakes with e=mC2 and if you search online they go into a lot of information about the mistakes.

[tobyjugg2]

13 minutes ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

 Some say that Einstein made mistakes with e=mC2 and if you search online they go into a lot of information about the mistakes.

 

Never seen any valid ones in years of looking

That some of the concepts extrapolated from it by various people were dubious  or flat out wrong ... fully agree

Common mistake is using 'infinity'

 

Even gravity is catered for to some extent - as a 'surface/interface to space-time

Calculations define what it does, just like QED

 

What it IS as a mental concept is more interpretive.

Edited March 23, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[tobyjugg2]

Worth a look for those interested

https://www.science20.com/hammock_physicist/whats_wrong_emc2

https://www.emc2-explained.info/Emc2/Derive.htm

 

https://plus.maths.org/content/problem-infinity

 

 

[unclebulgaria67]

Keep your eye on the news as CERN are expected to release reports in the near future which challenge existing Physics understanding of the Universe.

 

 

 

 

[tobyjugg2]

This?

https://arxiv.org/abs/2103.11769

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/218134/new-result-from-lhcb-experiment-challenges/

[snowdragon]

Anyone else got snow!   got it here and it has settled! White Easter 

[tobyjugg2]

yep, same here despite noticeable heat from sun when it came out and you were sheltered from wind

and apparently going to be sub zero tonight - not just wind chill making it seem that way

 

Arctic is dumping vast amount of cold again - Northern passage well on way to being permanently open

 

[tobyjugg2]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/09/tui-plane-serious-incident-every-miss-on-board-child-weight-birmingham-majorca

Tui plane in ‘serious incident’ after every ‘Miss’ on board was assigned child’s weight

"An update to the airline’s reservation system while its planes were grounded due to the coronavirus pandemic led to 38 passengers on the flight being allocated a child’s “standard weight” of 35kg as opposed to the adult figure of 69kg."

 

Well thats me not flying TUI - I'd kill everyone aboard despite only being a little overweight as a little too much muscle has turned to fat

 

Serious;y I doubt many people would even call me overweight despite my self criticism, and my chest is still a fair bit bigger than my waistline

but I'm still around 83 kilos. @75-78K ish I'm actually lean and fit. I blame lockdown with associated de-drive and age slowed metabolism.

[unclebulgaria67]

HRH Prince Philip The Duke of Edinburgh died this morning it has just been announced.

 

 

[honeybee13]

It's a shame he didn't make it to 100, but he hasn't looked well recently.

[tobyjugg2]

anyone who cares about their privacy still using chrome?

 

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/what-is-google-floc

https://amifloced.org/

[tobyjugg2]

Note: Language hinted at which was tasteless and unreasonable even in a bygone era

 

Overheard - A right bozo with untidy hair discussing woke:

Of course I know what it is. Its where the BBC make a drama about Henry VIII and his court, where the star player in the court is a 6 foot plus, athletically built pican.. afro-American Count with dazzling pearly whites, looks of a movie star and  'build of Lynford the lunchbox.

He also speaks wisdom in a tastfully mixed blend of Afro American accent overlaid with 1990s oxford English and manipulates and confounds the small, snaggle toothed feeble minded and feeble bodied pasty white folk in the court with ease

... and of course has all the women swooning at his feet at the slightest glimpse of his broad chest with its well trimmed hair let alone any of the other weapons he packs
... and they say I rewrite history

 

Mind you, it proves my point that slavery is a myth - we never enslaved them, quite the opposite - us white folk have only recently started to gain our freedom after hundreds of years of their manipulation and rule across the courts of Europe and we need to work hard to ensure that liberation of us poor etonians isnt quashed.

Lets us them to justify our report.

We better renew the Telly Tax err licence fee to make sure theres more.
Should we make them compulsory history viewing in schools?

What do you think Dom ... err Dom, where are you?

He must be watching the footsieball - whos innings is it?

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by tobyjugg2

[determindator]

medconfidential.org

 

It seems we have until the 23rd June to opt out of having our NHS history data harvested.

 

The web site above has a link to the place you can opt out. 

 

Shame the conversation hasn't been advertised as it should be so everyone knows and understands being fully aware of the choice.

[honeybee13]

It's been in the papers for the last couple of days, determindator. I started a new thread in our NHS section that has a couple of links and one of the site team posted your website.

 

I think HMG don't want a conversation, probably because last time they tried a data grab 2 million people opted out. That time they sent out flyers to people's homes, this time I'm not sure if there was even a proper announcement or it was quietly put on a government or health service website.

[honeybee13]

This is an early article on the data grab.

 

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/05/19/the-government-wants-to-sell-your-gp-medical-records-heres-how-to-opt-out/