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Probably not but neither has the mother. Surely under the circumstances and given the girl's age and inexperience of travelling alone, the mother should of traveled with the girl to save putting her in this situation.

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I'm curious if any children have been fined for not having a valid oyster card (albeit free you still need a valid oyster card). Would be interesting to know from any parents posting here and the circumstances.

 

Also are there limitations on said child card (does it only work in certain daytime hours and does it expire (have to renew it every now and then?)).

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The Inspector was wrong to have issued the fine in the first place.

 

She was travelling on the bus because the driver had allowed her to travel not because she had deliberately tried to travel without paying. She hadn't tried to sneak past the driver either. I agree

that the driver could have issued her with an unpaid fare ticket which would have sorted the problem. However in London certainly, so many people travel without paying in the late evening, that I

am sure that most drivers nod them through to avoid unpleasant scenes: to avoid holding up the rest of the passengers: or in this case from purely humanitarian reasons-she was a young girl with

no other means of getting home.

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Well it looks like the fine was rescinded.. but can they fine a child of 11 anyway ??

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The Inspector was wrong to have issued the fine in the first place.

 

She was travelling on the bus because the driver had allowed her to travel not because she had deliberately tried to travel without paying. She hadn't tried to sneak past the driver either. I agree

that the driver could have issued her with an unpaid fare ticket which would have sorted the problem. However in London certainly, so many people travel without paying in the late evening, that I

am sure that most drivers nod them through to avoid unpleasant scenes: to avoid holding up the rest of the passengers: or in this case from purely humanitarian reasons-she was a young girl with

no other means of getting home.

 

Dead right. But presumably her mother was fully aware that she had lost her card and was happy to take the risk of allowing her to travel for a few days without a valid one.

 

As I said, it's not only the inspector and driver who have not exactly acted responsibly here.

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My old man use to work for London General in Putney, He was driving the route 22 at Chelsea Worlds End and the same thing happened, Inspecter reported my dad to his garage and me dad got a bolloking

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The title is a bit misleading 'even though she had mum's Oyster Card' I took that to mean she was using a valid OC which belonged to her mum ergo season ticket or pass (as PAYG OC can be used by anyone).

 

When in fact she was using a card that had no money on it which is another matter. It was really up to her mum to ensure that she had enough money on the card or had a bit of spare cash on her to pay her fare if the money had run out £10.00 on an oyster card is not a lot of money on some routes.

 

If it had been my daughter I would have investigated the price of the bus fares first and then put enough money on an oyster card for at least a week

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The title is a bit misleading 'even though she had mum's Oyster Card' I took that to mean she was using a valid OC which belonged to her mum ergo season ticket or pass (as PAYG OC can be used by anyone).

 

When in fact she was using a card that had no money on it which is another matter. It was really up to her mum to ensure that she had enough money on the card or had a bit of spare cash on her to pay her fare if the money had run out £10.00 on an oyster card is not a lot of money on some routes.

 

If it had been my daughter I would have investigated the price of the bus fares first and then put enough money on an oyster card for at least a week

 

Exactly what any responsible parent would of done rather than taking for granted their child would be get special dispensation in someway.

 

Mind you, had it been your daughter on the Isle of Wight, wouldn't you need to take out a mortgage to cover a week's bus fare? :faint:

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What would you have done in this situation, just out of interest?

 

I would of let the girl travel, but, as soon as the RPI boarded, I would of let them know, which is what we are supposed to do.

 

However, the correct procedure would be to issue the girl a unpaid fare notice.

 

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I would of let the girl travel, but, as soon as the RPI boarded, I would of let them know, which is what we are supposed to do.

 

However, the correct procedure would be to issue the girl a unpaid fare notice.

 

Could be more to this story.....................

 

That's what I've done before. Most of our inspectors are ok if you let them know when they board. But as you know we're not supposed to refuse a child travel. Which company in London are you with btw?

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