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Where to start-At the beginning of course. I asked the site team where to put this, and for now this is the best place.

Just follow if you feel like it, PM me if you are a member, want to say something. Till the story begins.

 

This is a story of Shipwrecks, A historic oar driven lifeboat-The Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester possibly the oldest oar driven lifeboat in the world.

 

A story of Bravery, Tragedy, Death a football player. Florida, Nelson Scandinavia many things.

And if I live the dream as some say, the finale will for many be emotional and make you proud, happy to live in Great Britain with its history, passion and culture.

 

Do not seem surprised at times to see translations. I am linking this back to many countries.

Particularly, Scandinavia and America

Just skip through them.

 

I have been to the shipwreck,all is peaceful -i will put the story and pictures on soon.

 

I will be putting a picture of the Norwegian crew on.If anyone is descended from them let me know.My email is [email protected]

 

Norge

Jeg vil være å sette et bilde av norsk mannskap videre.Hvis noen stammer fra dem la meg know.My e-post er [email protected]

 

 

Norge--

Jeg har vært til forliset, er alt fredelig-jeg vil sette historien og bilder på snart.

 

Let us start with two songs. This was sang by a lady who lives and works in London.

Singing a song about the Fylde Coast -Blackpool Area but could be sung similarly anywhere if sometimes you miss the feelings of your place you were brought up.

 

Norge--

 

Hvor skal jeg begynne-I begynnelsen av kurset. Jeg spurte området team hvor du skal plassere dette, og for nå er dette det beste stedet.

Bare følg hvis du føler for det, meg PM hvis du er medlem, ønsker å si noe. Till historien begynner.

 

Dette er en historie om Skipsvrak, En historisk åre drevet livbåt-The Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester muligens den eldste åre drevet livbåt i verden.

 

En historie om Bravery, Tragedy, Death en fotballspiller. Florida, Nelson Skandinavias mange ting.

Og hvis jeg leve drømmen som noen sier, vil finalen for mange være følelsesmessig og gjøre deg stolt, glad for å leve i Storbritannia med sin historie, lidenskap og kultur.

 

Synes ikke overrasket til tider å se oversettelser. Jeg knytte dette tilbake til mange land.

Spesielt, Skandinavia og Amerika

Bare hoppe gjennom dem.

 

La oss starte med to sanger. Dette ble sang av en dame som bor og arbeider i London.

Synger en sang om Fylde Coast-Blackpool-området, men kan bli sunget samme hvor som helst hvis noen ganger du savner følelsen av ditt sted du ble tatt opp.

 

Sometimes-By Jane Wilkinson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Zsv5wXCJM

 

 

And Eternal Father.

 

Well the story is started now where the finish will be, I know, just going to take some hard work, passion and energy.

It will happen.

 

Rest time i have to rest for a while,3 days with not much sleep,need to eat,sleep,chill for a while..

 

Back tomorrow.

Thankyou you know who you are,someone with vision,cheers.

 

Norge--

 

Vel historien er i gang nå hvor målgang vil bli, jeg vet, bare kommer til å ta litt hardt arbeid, lidenskap og energi.

Det vil skje.

 

Hviletid jeg må hvile en stund, trenger 3 dager med ikke mye søvn, å spise, sove, chill for en stund ..

 

Tilbake i morgen.

Takk du vet hvem du er, noen med visjon, jubel.

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TO, have you heard this one.. It is by the Fishermen's wives choir. They have combined both "Eternal Father" and "When the boat comes in". Very emotional.

 

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ah, I think it might be the same one as you have as "Sometimes" by Jane Wilkinson

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Hi yes you are right citzenB very emotional-sometimes i feel i am one big softy.Not telling you why.You can guess,after listening to the music

.Just a few words to those in Norway-who may tune in.Their sailors are involved from over 100 years ago.

In this story all were rescued as well as the ships dog one foul night in 1894 when the RNLI lifeboat and the crew risked their lives.

 

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Norge--

 

Bare noen få ord til de i Norge-som kan tune in.Their seilere er involvert fra over 100 år siden.

I denne historien alle ble reddet samt skip dog en stygg kveld i 1894 da RNLI livbåt og mannskapet risikerte livet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abana_%28barque%29

 

 

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Hvor skal jeg begynne-I begynnelsen av kurset. Jeg spurte området team hvor du skal plassere dette, og for nå er dette det beste stedet.

Bare følg hvis du føler for det, meg PM hvis du er medlem, ønsker å si noe. Till historien begynner.

 

Dette er en historie om Skipsvrak, En historisk åre drevet livbåt-The Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester muligens den eldste åre drevet livbåt i verden.

 

En historie om Bravery, Tragedy, Death en fotballspiller. Florida, Nelson Skandinavias mange ting.

Og hvis jeg leve drømmen som noen sier, vil finalen for mange være følelsesmessig og gjøre deg stolt, glad for å leve i Storbritannia med sin historie, lidenskap og kultur.

 

Synes ikke overrasket til tider å se oversettelser. Jeg knytte dette tilbake til mange land.

Spesielt, Skandinavia og Amerika

Bare hoppe gjennom dem.

 

La oss starte med to sanger. Dette ble sang av en dame som bor og arbeider

 

 

Sweden as well-Scandinavia is involved in this story.

 

Var ska man börja-I början av kursen. Jag frågade webbplatsen team var att sätta detta, och för att nu detta är den bästa platsen.

Följ bara om du känner för det, PM mig om du är medlem, vill säga något. Till berättelsen börjar.

 

Detta är en berättelse om Skeppsvrak, En historisk åra drivs livbåt-The Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester möjligen den äldsta åra drivs livbåt i världen.

 

En berättelse om mod, tragedi, döden en fotbollsspelare. Florida, Nelson Scandinavia många saker.

Och om jag lever drömmen som vissa säger, kommer finalen för många vara emotionell och göra dig stolt, glad att leva i Storbritannien med sin historia, passion och kultur.

 

Verkar inte förvånad ibland för att se översättningarna. Jag länka den tillbaka till många länder.

Speciellt, Skandinavien och Amerika

Bara hoppa igenom dem.

 

Låt oss börja med två låtar. Detta sjöng med en kvinna som bor och arbetar i London.

Sjunger en sång om Fyldekusten-Blackpool området men kan sjungas på samma sätt som helst om du ibland missar de känslor av din plats du växte upp.

 

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I have been searching,asking,walking the shoreline talking to people finally met a special man called Bruce Allen -A man unlike any other i have met in my life.

A inventor,engineer,that has worked,though now retired,72 you would not think so.The first time i met him,the vision will stick in my mind forever.Originally from the North East-Why Aye Man.he now lives in Blackpool.

He was in a boiler suit,the ones with straps round the shoulder,a silk mask,like the lone ranger around his face,or neck,working at a work bench sat down making one of his inventions,which was beautiful,called a solitaire.Drilling.a piece of Mahogany

 

He knows every nut and bolt,every inch of the lifeboat,how it was made,it even had sails,6 foot steel wheels when pulled through the sand by horses.In the Victorian age.There was no promenade,rescues had to be made by tearing through country lanes,sparks flying of the wheels as they raced to the rescue in foul weather.Trees falling,branches breaking.Horses,special ones,racing to the rescue.

 

This week i have held 2 oars from the Samuel Fletcher and know much, much more.

The Samuel Fletcher is safe, though slightly out of condition, the story is massive and will as Bruce said "If i had a lottery win this is the only thing i would want" This statement nearly had me in tears,and i am not the kind of bloke to do this.

 

If this comes true his wish which will i feel,no it will happen he and many others across Great Britain and the world would feel the same.And watch live the Finale.

More much, much more tomorrow.

 

 

 

Norge---

 

Jeg har vært på leting, spør, gå fjæra snakke med folk endelig møtte en spesiell mann som heter Bruce Allen-En mann i motsetning til alle andre jeg har møtt i mitt liv.

En oppfinner, ingeniør, som har jobbet, men nå pensjonert, 72 du ville ikke tro so.The første gang jeg møtte ham, vil visjonen pinne i mitt sinn forever.Originally fra North East-Hvorfor Aye man.he nå bor i Blackpool.

Han var i en kjele dress, de med stropper rundt skulderen, en silke maske, som lone ranger rundt ansiktet hans, eller nakke, som arbeider ved en arbeidsbenk satte seg å gjøre en av hans oppfinnelser, som var vakre, kalt en kabal . Drilling.a stykke Mahogany

 

Han kjenner hver skrue og mutter, hver tomme av livbåten, hvordan det ble gjort, det hadde seil, 6 fot felger da trukket gjennom sanden ved horses.In den viktorianske age.There var ingen promenade, redder måtte gjøres ved å rive gjennom landeveier, gnister flyr av hjulene som de kjørte til unnsetning i foul weather.Trees fallende, greiner breaking.Horses, spesielle seg, racing til unnsetning.

 

Denne uken har jeg hatt to årer fra Samuel Fletcher og vet mye, mye mer.

The Samuel Fletcher er trygt, men litt ute av stand, er historien massiv og vil som Bruce sa "Hvis jeg hadde et lotteri vinne dette er det eneste jeg ønsker" Dette utsagnet nesten fikk meg i tårer, og jeg er ikke den slags balanse å gjøre dette.

 

Hvis dette blir virkelighet hans ønske som jeg vil føle, nei det vil skje han og mange andre over Storbritannia og verden ville føle samme.Og watch leve Finale.

Mer mye, mye mer i morgen.

 

Damon-Tawnyowl. 8-02 pm 3/10/2013.

More soon having a break and a cup of tea-very emotional story that has only just begun

 

mer snart ha en pause og en kopp te-veldig emosjonell historie som har bare så vidt begynt
Hi to anyone tuning in from America,Australia.and Canada.Some of the biggest seaports in the world.

Thought you may enjoy this tale of the shoreline.

There are not many good stories about in the world.

This is going to be one of them.I will tell you in a minute or two about a man who has a special dream,he does not use computers,he is 72 -I am as well as others going to make his dream come true.Follow me to where this story will end.

It will be very emotional,in a happy way and you will remember this Tale Of The Shoreline for decades.

I will tell you his dream in about 10 minutes,breakfast time

 

This is his dream.

The Samuel Fletcher Lifeboat is to be restored.How much because of alterations to it and repairs nobody knows at present but will soon.

I feel due to one mans effort-but for now i will say no more on that.

Now Bruce is a open man,tells you things,but he has a mind so sharp and full of ideas and inventions,knows so much about things.But speaks to you in a way you can understand.

When restored he wants it pulled through the streets of Blackpool by horse as was in the Victorian age and put back in its rightful place Which at the moment is empty.

.Can you imagine the emotion in the town if this comes true.And in other places around the world.

This is now news that very few know.The Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester did not just rescue crew from 1 ship,it did save many from other ships and sailors in distress.I will just tell you one.

 

Norge--

 

Hei til alle tuning i fra Amerika, Australia.and Canada.Some av de største havnene i verden.

Trodde du kan nyte denne historien om fjæra.

Det er ikke mange gode historier om i verden.

Dette kommer til å bli en av dem.Jeg vil fortelle deg i et minutt eller to om en mann som har en spesiell drøm, han bruker ikke datamaskiner, er han 72-jeg er så vel som andre kommer til å gjøre sin drøm . Følg meg på hvor denne historien vil ende.

Det vil være veldig emosjonell, i en lykkelig måte, og du vil huske denne Tale Of The fjæra i flere tiår.

Jeg vil fortelle deg sin drøm i ca 10 minutter, frokosttid

 

Dette er hans drøm.

The Samuel Fletcher livbåt skal være restored.How mye på grunn av endringer i det og reparasjoner ingen kjenner i dag, men vil snart.

Jeg føler på grunn av en mans innsats-men for nå vil jeg ikke si mer om det.

Nå Bruce er en åpen mann, forteller deg ting, men han har en tanke så skarp og full av ideer og oppfinnelser, vet så mye om things.But snakker til deg på en måte du kan forstå.

Når restaurert han ønsker det trukket gjennom gatene i Blackpool med hest som var i den viktorianske alder og satt tilbake i sin rettmessige plass som i øyeblikket er tom.

. Kan du forestille deg den følelsen i byen hvis dette kommer true.And i andre steder i verden.

Dette er nå nyheten om at svært få know.the Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester ikke bare redde mannskapet fra en skip, gjorde det spare mange fra andre skip og sjømenn i distress.I vil bare fortelle deg en.

Right one more story. This is one other ship the Samuel Fletcher rescued the crew from. This is the connection to Admiral Nelson.

He had a Flagship called The Fuodroyant, which he served on for a short time. Said it was the best ship he ever sailed on. When it was decommissioned it went on tour. Arriving at Blackpool it hit a tremendous storm and after hitting North Pier was wrecked. Can you imagine, I can hardly write this stuff. You may not believe. Better put a article on so you believe. The Samuel Fletcher rescued the crew.

80 cannons and the wood were taken away by the local entrepreneurs and turned into souvenirs and furniture.

Just as they would now. Blackpool Football Clubs boardroom is cladded with wood from the Fuodroyant, I asked.

 

Now soon i will give you another fascinating part of the story, but this afternoon I have to investigate a couple of things connected to the story. So for now will leave things. Just a link.

 

Norge-

Rette mer story.This er en annen skipet Samuel Fletcher reddet mannskapet fra. Dette er forbindelsen til Admiral Nelson.

Han hadde et flaggskip kalt The Fuodroyant, som han tjente på for en kort time.Said det var det beste skipet han noen gang har seilt videre.Når det ble nedlagt det gikk på tour.Arriving på Blackpool den traff en enorm storm og etter treffer North Pier ble wrecked.Can du forestille deg, kan jeg nesten ikke skrive dette stuff.You kan ikke believe.Better sette en artikkel om slik at du believe.The Samuel Fletcher reddet mannskapet.

80 kanoner og tre ble tatt bort av lokale entreprenører og omgjort til suvenirer og møbler.

Akkurat som de ville now.Blackpool Football Clubs styrerommet er kles med treverk fra Fuodroyant, spurte jeg.

 

Nå snart jeg vil gi deg en annen fascinerende del av historien, men i ettermiddag har jeg å undersøke et par ting som er koblet til story.So for nå vil forlate things.Just en link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Foudroyant_%281798%29

 

 

 

 

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While I go hunting for things, a rest for you, my town at night.

 

Mens jeg går på jakt etter ting min by om natten

 

Tonight I will tell you how this story began for me.

 

I kveld vil jeg fortelle deg hvordan denne historien begynte for meg.

 

 

 

 

 

THE SAMUEL FLETCHER LIFEBOAT.

 

 

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The crew of the Abana-Norwegians and Swedish

 

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OK while writing this story, the research you have to do is massive, anyway something for now are left out but will become clearer as time goes on. While looking at the crew of the Samuel Fletcher one name, i have not researched them all stood out Parkinson. 1896

 

It turns out he was Blackpool Football Clubs Top Scorer In their ever first Season in the football league 1896 i will check this in a moment. And also because of his skill played for Liverpool. While researching i came across this-saves me perhaps rambling on to much. And shows others in the past have looked at things. After you read this, this is a story of heroism, happiness ,bravery a man who even at the end of his life at 36 gave his life for a friend. Very emotional. Give me a moment before i link in

 

Prepare yourselves for a man who to me is a hero-here is a story, I feel again has got the Scandinavian connection-the author

For anyone who wants to send this story elsewhere in the world-use this language translator. Let us get this story out there.

http://translate.google.com/

 

Blackpool Corporation Baths

 

Jack Parkinson dies from his injuries

 

 

Blackpool Football Clubs Top Scorer In Their First Ever Season In The Football League Dies A Hero. Giving His Life For Others

 

http://kjellhanssen.com/tag/blackpool-corporation-baths/

 

Now when I was a kid, I used to swim in these baths, a experience I tell you, a story there alone. Got my first learners certificate there. It is now a car park, mm

 

If you hit this link, scroll down it gives you further info on his football career, there are many links

But also tells of his heroic deed that led to his death-prepare yourselves for a true act of heroism-i would not have liked to be in his position at the time, would you.

http://kjellhanssen.com/tag/blackpool-lifeboat-crew/

 

I have just sent a message to Kjell on Twitter

Here--

@TheSpiritOf1892 HI Kjell i have just linked you to a #story-how did u find this info-well done #Respect http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?404875-History-Heroes-RNLI-Lifeboats-Nelson-Shipwrecks-and-more%288Viewing%29-nbsp … #Liverpool

 

3-36am Sat 5/10/2013-tiring now-will maybe continue later-will now tidy post up then-zzzz

 

Just going to translate this into Norwegian then I will leave it at that for the next few hours.

I know much more, some that very few people know, if any, all will be revealed as time goes on.

 

 

Norge--

 

 

OK mens du skriver denne historien , er forskningen du trenger å gjøre massive , er likevel somethings for nå utelatt , men vil bli klarere etter hvert som tiden går on.While ser på mannskapet på Samuel Fletcher ett navn , jeg har ikke forsket på dem alle sto out.J Parkinson. 1896

Det viser seg at han var Blackpool Football Clubs toppscorer i deres stadig første sesong i fotball 1896 vil jeg sjekke dette i en moment.And også på grunn av hans dyktighet spilte for Liverpool.While forske Jeg kom over dette - sparer meg kanskje springende på til much.And viser andre i det siste har sett på things.After du leser dette, er dette en historie om heltemot , lykke , mot en mann som selv på slutten av sitt liv på 36 gav sitt liv for en friend.Very emosjonelle . Gi meg et øyeblikk før jeg linke

 

Forbered dere for en mann som for meg er en helt - her er en historie , føler jeg igjen har fått det skandinaviske tilkobling - forfatteren

For alle som ønsker å sende denne historien andre steder i verden bruke dette språket translator.Let oss får denne historien ute.

http://translate.google.com/

 

' Blackpool Corporation Baths '

 

Jack Parkinson dør av skadene

 

 

Blackpool Football Clubs toppscorer i sin første Ever Season In The Football League Dies En Hero.Giving sitt liv for andre

 

http://kjellhanssen.com/tag/blackpoo...oration-baths/

 

Nå når jeg var liten , pleide jeg å svømme i disse badene , en erfaring jeg fortelle deg , en historie der alone.Got min første elever sertifikat der. Det er nå en parkeringsplass , mmm

 

Hvis du treffer denne linken, bla nedover det gir deg ytterligere informasjon om sin fotballkarriere , er det mange lenker

Men forteller også om hans heroiske gjerning som førte til hans død - forberede dere for en sann handling av heltemot -jeg ville ikke ha likt å være i sin stilling på det tidspunktet , ville du .

http://kjellhanssen.com/tag/blackpool-lifeboat-crew/

 

Jeg har nettopp sendt en melding til Kjell på Twitter

her -

@ TheSpiritOf1892 HI Kjell jeg har nettopp koblet deg til en # story -how did u finne denne info - well done # Respekt http://www.consumeractiongroup.c ... # Liverpool

 

3 - 36am lør 5/10/2013-tiring nå - vil kanskje fortsette senere , vil nå rydde etter seg da - zzzz

 

Bare kommer til å oversette dette til norsk så jeg vil la det bli med det for de neste par timene .

Jeg vet mye mer , noen som svært få mennesker vet , om noen, alt vil bli avslørt som tiden går .

 

For alle som ønsker å sende denne historien andre steder i verden bruke dette språket translator.Let oss får denne historien ute.

http://translate.google.com/

 

La oss gjøre Bruce Allens drømmen en reality.Let oss å få Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester livbåt Restaurert så raskt som mulig, og deretter brakt tilbake til Blackpool.Pulled av hester, selv en gang å ha et seil på den irske sea.Sails værs.

Deretter satt på et hvilested, hvor mange kan see.It fortjener this.Back i sin Boathouse å hvile der folk kan beundre det, har fotografier tatt av den.En RNLI donationicon for alle besøkende til dette stedet av historiske interesticon.

 

Bruce er den type mann som i viktoriansk tid ville ha vært å finne opp ting, bygge broer, tog, noe som gjør ting arbeide.Rommet slags menneske som gjorde Great Britain stor.Hvis han brukte datamaskiner jeg vil fortelle deg dette, ville han nå bli bedre dem.Når du lytte til ham at han maler et bilde til deg om hvordan ting var., hvordan de skjer, hvordan de fungerer, hvordan de var made.You kunne lytte til ham for hours.More snart, er den Tale Of The Shoreline bare bare varmer opp.

 

 

Let us make Bruce Allens dream a reality.Let us get the Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester Lifeboat Restored as quickly as possible,then brought back to Blackpool.Pulled by horses through the town even once more to have a sail on the Irish sea.Sails aloft.

Then put to a resting place,where many can see.It deserves this.Back in its Boathouse to rest where people can admire it,have photographs taken by it.A RNLI donation for every visitor to this place of historic interest.

 

Bruce is the kind of man who in Victorian times would have been inventing things,building bridges,trains,making things work.The kind of man that made Great Britain great.If he used computers i will tell you this,he would now be improving them.When you listen to him he paints a picture for you of how things were.,how they happen,how they work,how they were made.You could listen to him for hours.More soon, the Tale Of The Shoreline is only just warming up.

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Norge--

Jeg har nettopp blitt kontaktet av den viktigste historiker av Liverpool Football Club Kjell Hanssenn som har vennlig gitt meg en link til denne Brave fotballspiller, lifeboatman, han ro J Parkinson

Jeg skal skrive en novelle om historikeren snart.

Men bare ønsker å få info der ute i webland.

 

http://stonechaser.blogspot.co.uk/20...parkinson.html

 

Og jeg forsikrer deg, hvis ledelsen navnetrekk på denne modige mans grav er peeling, etter den tid jeg får til slutten av denne historien, vil det

 

 

 

bli gleamingThe andre bildet sikkert er der Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester livbåt belongs.The gammel livbåt hus som i dette øyeblikk tror jeg er empty.More snart.

 

 

 

 

 

I have just been contacted by the main historian of Liverpool Football Club Kjell Hanssenn who has kindly given me another link to this Brave footballer,lifeboatman,hero J Parkinson

I will be writing a short story about the historian soon.

But just want to get the info out there in webland.

 

http://stonechaser.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/arnold-parkinson.html

 

And i assure you,if the lead lettering on this brave mans grave is peeling,by the time i get to the end of this story,it will

be gleamingThe second picture surely is where the Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester lifeboat belongs.The old Lifeboat house which at this moment i believe is empty.More soon.Good grief it is 1 pm sat 5/10/2013,i have lost track of time.Time to get up,i am still in bed Time to eat. Tomorrow i am going on another top secret mission.Some things i will be looking into finding out,taking photographs,many things.I have not yet told you how i became involved in this.I will do soon ,but for now i will add a few more links

 

For anyone venturing this way.I will be writing more from about 2am.Sunday

 

 

I have thanks to give to some later,i have not forgotten you,i will mention later.

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A Poem From J Parkinson Snr.

 

JOHN PARKINSON, (Senior)

A MEMBER OF THE BLACKPOOL LIFEBOAT CREW.

GOOD-BYE a bit, John; we shall meet ogen soon;

Aw shall noan be long after, tha'll see;

So aw want thee—when settled i' th' mansions aboon,

To look eawt for a place for me.

Tha'll know what'll suit me—a bit ov a spot

Aw con ceawer in, an' feel 'at it's mine;

Just a few simple fleawers reawnd a plain-lookin' cot,

An' let it be nearish to thine.

 

As a naybur an' friend, John, aw feawnd tha wur true;

When tha piped aw wur tempted to dance;

An' aw think we could manage Eternity throo'—

That is—iv we'd nobbut th' chance.

Aw went to thi berrin'! an', dear-a-me, John,

Sich a seet aw've but seldom seen!

There wur theawsands o' foalks stood watchin' it, mon,

An' they'd th' mooast on 'em tears i' their een!

 

It's not merely th' public 'at's mournin' their loss,

But it's thoose 'at's lost husband an' dad;

Th' poor mother wur fairly weighed deawn wi' her cross,

An' th' childer wur just as bad.

Th' tall, wasted form 'at tha left behind,

We reverently put into th' greawnd;

Feelin' certain at dear Mother Earth 'll be kind,

An' thi sleep undisturbed an' seawnd.

 

This isn't to th' dead husk, but to th' livin' grain;

Aw'm speakin' to John hissel!

To th' spirit, an' not to th' lifeless brain;

To th' kernel, an' not to th' shell!

Aw'm aware these 'll strike some as strangish views;

An' one's lots o' times yeard it said

'At nobody but idiots an' crazy foo's

Would pretend to converse wi' th' dead.

 

Well, they may be reet, an' th' writer wrong;

We're none of us feawnd o'er breet;

But these are mi thowts, an' they're put i' mi song,

Becose aw believe 'em reet.

Shall aw get a response? Well, it's hard to say;

But supposin' aw don't get a word,—

Must silence be ta'en as a proof 'at mi lay

Has noather been read or heard?

 

Well, good-bye a bit, John; we shall meet ogen soon,

Wheer th' sun never hides his rays;

Wheer there's never a veil o'er th' face o' th' moon,

Nor gloomy November days.

Wheer tha's cast anchor on th' gowden strand,

There'll be no storms to brave;

No oars to grasp, no boats to be man'd,

Nor shipwrecked foalk to save!

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I feel at this moment i will give thanks to CitizenB who has been very kind,and supporting me through this thread.

And also to this man,who has worked so hard to research many of these things.A Liverpool Historian,they must be proud to have him in their community.

Kjell Hanssen, football historian

 

The history of Liverpool Football Club through newspaper articles.

 

About kjellhanssen.com

 

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For more than 10 years I have collected newspaper articles related to the history of Liverpool Football Club. This blog is a presentation of the histor of the greatest football team ever, told by the media. Many books about Liverpool F.C. contain errors about what happened in the old days. LFC deserve more than a “non-important” past.

Among all the articles I will also try to bring back the daily life of the people who lived in the city and the area. This is first and foremost a tribune to all those who either shared, or share, the same red passion. If you are writing a book, or an article about Liverpool F.C., or a former player, you are much welcome to use information presented on these pages. All I ask in return is a mention under “sources.”

You can contact me on [email protected] com.

Regards,

Kjell Hanssen

 

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Hi Australia-my dad came over here in the war.Served in The Australian Airforce,stationed at Blackpool,taught night flying-bombers,Lancasters,Wellingtons,as many other Australians did.

Hope you enjoy this story.The Blue Mountains,Beautiful.If you want to get in touch from Parramatta my email is higher up in the thread.B.A.LYNCH-My dads name

 

Later on today it is now 3-42 am Sunday6/10/2013 flagging a touch now,today i am going on a mission.To find out things.Later i will talk about how the Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester Came ,or managed to get to Blackpool.

Remember in those days,no cars,no M6 how did it get here.Horse,River,Canal,how.Over 100 years ago.If anyone knows anything got any information,let me know.Thanks.

 

Ok 10-30am Sunday6/10/2013.

Today i am going to investigate a few things.Where this may lead to who knows.Let us see.In the meantime a little music for you.To relax you.The story as i say,this part has only just begun.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPo5jTQ39eE

 

 

 

Back from the investigations.Both were successful which surprised me.Photographs were taken.The investigations

till i have spoken later this week to Bruce have to be kept to myself.Bruce is not feeling well at the moment.

so for a few days i have to leave it at that.

It was a pleasant day which involved scenic countryside views,tight country lanes,getting lost a few times,finally finding what i was looking for.In the most unusual place you could imagine.As i say perhaps 30 photographs were taken,

some never seen before.There is no doubt of that. Bruce my friend,get well soon.

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Now tonight a night of rest i feel.Will be back Monday evening with much more news.And maybe a picture or two.

19-45 Sunday

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Hi Monday morning now.i am,although i do not do anger,very concerned about one discovery made yesterday.

What i found, even this morning has me concerned about how things can happen to historic artifacts.

What i saw and took photographs of,i do not know how to describe my feelings,but i will as time goes on.

But even now is not to late to act.But i first need before publishing,other peoples thoughts on the matter.

But if agreed,i will blast this news far and wide.Absolutely raging.

But calm as well.Used to it.Trying not to let feelings and emotion get to me.

But my ears are ringing,my blood pressure must be going through the roof,i must calm down.

And just to make things worse,Fang my black and white cat has just tried to leap onto the windowsill and missed.

He is not very pleased and has shot off.

 

And J Parkinson Blackpool Footballer And Liverpool football player i know somehow you are guiding me.

Yesterday you know what i did,where i went.You were and still are a hero.

Even though over 100 years have passed.

 

 

The baths superintendent was best known locally as Jack Parkinson, he having been a popular lifeboat man and a member of the Blackpool Football Club team in the Lancashire League days. Parkinson played centre forward for the Blackpool team, on the Raikes Hall ground, and his form was such as to induce Liverpool to secure his services, where he remained for two or three years, only to return to his native town’s club in 1900, for which he played centre half up to last season. His long service with the Seaside club entitled him to the “benefit” he received, and as he was one of the most genial and steady of fellows he was liked wherever he went, and was very popular not only with the public, but amongst all his colleagues. His death under such distressing circumstances is deeply deplored.

His connection with the lifeboat service has been continued from his youth up, for as a local boatman he was well qualified to be a member of the of the crew, and throughout the country he was known as the sailor-footballer. He last went out in the in the lifeboat to the wreck of the “Rosaleen” at St Anne’s a few weeks ago. He has only been married a little over a year, his wife having been assistant manageress at the baths for several years previously.

 

What a start to the week.

00.15AM Tuesday 8/10/2013.

I have just had a shower,after trying to get to sleep,failing.Thoughts churning in my mind.

 

So i will tell you how i became involved in this story.I will for now not put the Newspaper article on.Truth known i will have to scan it then post it somehow. Maybe write it Later in the story i will put it on.Let me explain.

 

As a teenager i used to always be swimming,or enoying the sun,basking on the rocks by the Cliffs at a place in Blackpool called the Gynn Square.

Always there from morning till night.I know many tragedy's have happened there,but at these times it was a red hot summer,the seas were calm.We,some may not agree,got to know the area,how the tides were,currents,sandbanks,many things.Wind direction,waves all sorts of things.I will try to find a picture of the area.

Even the chefs from the Cliffs hotel used to come across with massive inflated inner tubes and float about.A refreshing break.from the heat of the kitchens.Used to dive of the sea wall,then up the steps.Can not see it being allowed now.

The lifeguards used to see us,kept watch,not for long and carry on on their patrol.Used to pop over to a hotel called the York House at dinner to see the receptionist who was a friend of mine.Have a bite to eat,a chat.

 

A few of us used to use the old Derby Baths when weather was bad.Throw ourselves off the boards.From the back to the front,running and just launch ourselves.Doing bombs they were called.Just before hitting the water we used to curl up,creating a splash that went perhaps 15 feet up in the air,same in all directions.Sometimes two of us at the same time. Used to get told off doing this.This was a Olympic sized swimming baths opened by the original Tarzan Johnny Weissmuller.Now demolished, mmm.

Let me try to find a picture.Here you are-- Derby Baths, Blackpool. 1939

 

A gap developed for many years,family life,then due to being quiet with work,started walking the shoreline again,memories came flooding back,started going every day walking from Cleveleys to South Shore.seeing many things as i walked,started writing about them.

One day approaching the Norbreck Castle Hotel at low tide,86degrees even on the beach,i spotted a shipwreck.

Well having read to many books like Robinson Crusoe and Greek Fables when i was a kid,i had to investigate.Out i went to the wreck and searched round it inch by inch.Looking for something,nothing found but interesting to feel the wood the bits of bolts still remaining..And a decent size as well.When arriving home i researched what ship it was.The Abana,hit a terrific storm,the lifeboat hurtled through country lanes to the rescue,alerted by a horse-rider that had been sent to raise the alarm.

Just carrying Ballast,on its way to Florida to collect a shipment of timber..

A lot of coincidences in this story don't you think,makes you wonder many things.

I remembered the lifeboat when i was younger,the name taking people on a tour of the lake.

 

So researching i thought i would write a letter,that is all to ask people a few things.To a local paper.

2 weeks went by,nothing.mmm i thought why not.Checking my emails a few days later,there were many to go through ,just about to delete them,noticed a email to me.

To cut the story short,a full size article appeared shortly afterwards.picture of myself,at the wreck,and a story.

 

A couple of weeks had gone by,all of a sudden a letter appeared in the paper,this was it.I had written the article in such a way,i wanted reaction.,which came,here it is.Even though a full page,many of my words would not fit so had been left out.

 

 

1794156379.jpg The Samuel Fletcher lifeboat awaiting renovation after falling into disrepair

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brave lifeboat rescue

The Abana

 

 

Further to Damon’s research on the Abana rescue in 1894, he was right about the lifeboat first covering several miles on land from Blackpool to Bispham for what was an amazing rescue.

The call to the lifeboat from the crew of the Abana was: “How many can you take?”

The call from the lifeboat back to the Abana was: “We’ll take all of you!”

The lifeboat was so overloaded that the crew had to get out and push the boat over the sand banks. As I’ve said, an amazing rescue!

That boat was the lifeboat Robert William, prior to the Samuel Fletcher. The original Samuel Fletcher, as supplied to Blackpool weighed in at three tons and was too heavy. So it was requested that the builders supply a light pulling boat more suitable for shore launching.

This the builders did and the new lifeboat was called the Samuel Fletcher of Manchester.

It came into service in 1896 and served until 1930, weighing in at two tons.

Damon was right in his assumption that this is the boat that was used on Stanley Lake Park.

The Samuel Fletcher of Manchester was then saved from oblivion by a few Blackpool people and placed at TS Penelope with the intention of the cadets making it into a project.

Unfortunately this did not happen. The Samuel Fletcher of Manchester was then moved to the Illuminations department off Squires Gate Lane and is earmarked to be moved to Hayling Island, near Portsmouth, for renovation.

The work continues. Damon and anyone else who would like to join the Friends of the Samuel Fletcher Group would be very welcome and they can get more details by ringing me ,

 

Bruce Allen

So many coincidences.The only letter came from the one man that i needed.

Now maybe i can get some sleep.Good morning Great Britain-1-28am

 

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Tomorrow i am going to look for more details on the story.Things are developing behind the scenes.

I should add this week i will be putting some photos on that no one has seen before.

So maybe some are feeling this story is cooling.

Believe me it is not.It is still warming up.I will tell the story how i see it.

By the time this story is finished all inaccuracies will have been dealt with and the full story,the history of the Samuel Fletcher Of Manchester will be correct.

And boy are there some twists and turns to be revealed.

 

Here is a small statement from When the Samuel Fletcher was taking people on tours round Stanley Park.

If anyone has any photographs of its days at the park would you let me have a copy.Maybe someone out there has video of this.Here is one,from a distance.

 

 

 

spaceout.gifQuote-Part of the Lake's claim to fame today was the use of the old Blackpool Lifeboat which for many years was used as a pleasure cruiser on the lake. The "Samuel Fletcher" was apparently used to rescue passengers from a foundering ship near the North Pier in June 1897, the "Foudroyant", which was Nelson's flagship. Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/3283120

 

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And a statement by a Skipper-After ending service, the Foudroyant,Nelsons former flagship became a tourist attraction. It came to Blackpool from Southport on June 4, 1897, and anchored two miles out to sea between North and Central piers.

Just before 6am on June 16, a hurricane force storm caused the ship to break anchor. Drifting towards land, she just missed the North Pier jetty and hit the shore 600 yards up from Cocker Square.

The 28 crew members were saved by 16 lifeboatmen aboard the Blackpool lifeboat, the "Samuel Fletcher", which is now on the lake at Stanley Park in Blackpool.

Not any more we know that.

 

Another article,see how things are becoming important.This could be the oldest surviving oar driven lifeboat in the world,definitely in Great Britain.

 

Samuel Fletcher of Manchester

 

Quote-The Times a few years ago.

 

Sir, I believe that the Samuel Fletcher of Manchester is possibly the oldest RNLI lifeboat still existent, not The James Stevens No 14 (report, Sept 8).

The Samuel Fletcher of Manchester was launched in Blackpool in September 1885 as part of the town’s celebration of the start of its electric street tramway. It later became a launch on the town’s Stanley Park Lake; my grandfather, Thomas Woodman, was in charge of it during the 1930s End quote

 

Here is a picture from 1934-on the lake

Look at the queues waiting to get on it.Can you believe this.

The pleasure craft was the former Blackpool lifeboat "Samuel Fletcher". The RNLI sold the boat in 1930 for £70, shortly after it entered service on the lake.

 

Maybe now the Lake has had its leaks fixed it could still do tours again another idea.

I would be proud to see it sail again.

It would make money,pay for itself,though it has i dare say,thousands of times over.

At night carefully put away ,guarded under its own cover at the side of the Lake,away from vandals etc

I believe the Lottery gave a tremendous grant to Stanley Park, millions,why,if any of the money is left can this not be accomplished.

Then in Winter put back in its winter home.Safe.For the public to wonder,be amazed at the story of this Lifeboat.

See its history,heroic deeds by men carried on it,the crew that worked on it.I would be.A tourist attraction for sure,winter and summer.There can be no doubt.It would draw people worldwide.

 

In the meantime perhaps this may give some people who are following this thread something to look at..

http://www2.blackpooltoday.co.uk/shipwreck/

 

More breaking news soon.And some pictures of something that will shock you.A worldwide breaking story,never seen before.Coming soon.

 

And take note some people who may be reading this story,this is history as it happens.

I am not playing,writing a Tale Of The Shoreline.

Things better start moving,fast.I am not spending years on this.

Do i know things,do you want to take that chance.

I want Bruce Allens dream fulfilling-soon as.

 

I want this Samuel Fletcher of Manchester Lifeboat restoring then pulled through the Town Centre of Blackpool by horses as in Victorian times and given the reception it deserves.

And in memory to the crew of the lifeboat and sailors of ships it saved and did not manage to save..Nothing more than they deserve as well.

 

On Saturday morning i will release something not seen before.If all goes to plan.

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Just writing a post today.

About lifeboats.It will build in the next few hours.

And there may be slight accurate issues but as said before by the end of this story all will become clear.

 

Just to remind myself.Used to go fishing on Stanley Park.Even been on the Samuel Fletcher when young.

Used to curse the Lifeboat.Caused waves that hid my float.But i did not know its history.If i had i would have stood up and saluted it.

Who would have thought now 43 years later i would be doing this.

Yesterday i went to pay my respects to J Parkinson.

I have photos,all is peaceful,as you would expect.

Some of the lettering needs refreshing.I am sure this is only a small job.

And i am sure some local monumental mason,if that is the word would be honored to do this.

Due to working in construction,i thought the stonework was beautiful,improved perhaps with age

 

Back to the story.

http://rnli.org/aboutus/Pages/About-us.aspx

 

The 20th century saw the RNLI continue to save lives at sea through two world wars. Lifeboats moved from sail and oar power to petrol and diesel, and the first women joined their crews.

There it is,the link to sail,i believe the Lifeboat had sails.Can you believe this.As well as oars.I have held two of them.

 

1884 RNLI

 

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Check this out

Now go to the part about the Mexico 1886

27 Seven Lifeboat men lost their lives from Southport and St Annes

16 Women widows,50 children lost their fathers.

 

A poem for them

SAM BAMFORD.

SAMUEL BAMFORD (1788-1872), a Lancashire handloom weaver by trade, was a prolific writer, penning many pamphlets, leaflets and letters as well as being a poet

 

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LADS! doff yo'r hats, an' gether reawnd,

An' listen to mi song,

Mi subject's rayther painful, so

Aw'll not detain yo' long.

Yon' happen heard o' th' wreck we'n had,

So near this stormy coast,

O th' sad mishaps to th' lifeboat crews,

An' th' precious lives we'n lost.

 

It's bad enuff to hear these tales,

Or read what's put i' print;

But what must be th' effects o' th' storm

To thoose poor chaps 'at's in't:

When seated cosily i' th' nook,

It's little we can know

O' th' foamin' billows meawntains high,

Or th' stormy winds 'at blow!

 

Eh, bless yo', lads! aw mind that neet,

That fatal neet to some;

Aw're sit deawn readin' th' Evening' News,

I' this mi sea-side whoam,

When th' woind i' th' chimney 'gan to roar,

At length it blew a gale;

An' th' windows fairly rattled, lads,

Wi' th' peltin' rain an' hail.

 

Aw looked at th' woife, who, just at th' toime,

Sat knittin' in her cheer,

An' said, "It's gettin' fearful, lass;

There'll be some wrecks, aw fear!"

Yo' know the result—th' bad news 'at coome;

Th' next morning' when aw woke,

Aw're hauve prepared to hear th' sad words

Mi sorrowin' naybors spoke:—

 

Heaw two brave crews had faced that sea—

Ah, one o' th' stormiest known—

An' tryin' t' rescue other lives

Had sacrificed their own!

Sad news wur this! As th' day wore on,

It only proved too true;

Saint Annes and Southport boats wur lost

An' th' biggest part o' th' crew.

 

While these sad scenes wur takkin' place

That stormy neet i' th' dark,

Th' brave Lytham crew wur eawt, an' proved

Successful i' their wark.

Ah, these brave fellows put to sea,

An' fowt booath wind an' waves,

Till every man on th' Mexico

Wur saved fro' watery graves!

 

Well, th' next we yeard wur—Coxs'n Bob

Wur launchin' th' Blackpool boat;

An' th' Samuel Fletcher, wi' her crew,

Wur very soon afloat.

They went as close as they could think

To wheer th' sad wreck had been;

But, as yo' know, lads, all wur vain,

No boats or bodies seen.

 

Aw'll say no moor; yo' know the rest,

Heaw widows grieve an' mourn;

An' little childer cry for th' dads

They'll never see return.

Heaw aged parents mourn their sons,

An' social ties are rent;

Heaw the nation's moved fro' end to side,

At this mooast sad event!

 

Well, lads, aw've done, put on your hats,

Yo'n heard mi plaintive lay;

It's th' saddest song aw've had to sing

For many and many a day.

Aw've pleaded th' boatmen's cause before,

Aw'll plead it once ogen;

For God hasn't made ow't nobler yet,

Than these brave Lifeboat Men!

 

 

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Well, the next we heard was—Coxsman Bob

Was launching the Blackpool boat;

And the Samuel Fletcher, with her crew,

Was very soon afloat.

They went as close as they could think

To where the sad wreck had been;

But, as you know, lads, all was in vain,

No boats or bodies seen.

 

The Coxsman - Bob Bickerstaffe

The first manager of the pier was Robert Bickerstaffe, coxswain of the first Blackpool lifeboat.

 

 

 

The Samuel Fletcher also put to sea to look for survivors None were found..And is mentioned in the poem.

Let us remember this.

Bruce Allen in his letter.Talking about the Abana rescue.

That boat was the lifeboat Robert William, prior to the Samuel Fletcher. The original Samuel Fletcher, as supplied to Blackpool weighed in at three tons and was too heavy. So it was requested that the builders supply a light pulling boat more suitable for shore launching.

This the builders did and the new lifeboat was called the Samuel Fletcher of Manchester.

It came into service in 1896 and served until 1930, weighing in at two tons.

 

 

 

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There can be no other outcome.The story has a beginning a middle,not finished yet.This is what Bruce and myself,and others i have yet to meet want the end to look like.It has been done before.It is right to do it again.It will happen.

Much more as the week goes on.Including some surprises.

 

 

 

 

Blackpool’s lifeboat in a parade along Foxhall Road in 1897.

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So this was the Samuel Fletcher-The Blackpool lifeboat being pulled through the Streets of Blackpool by horse to the Lifeboat House.So many happy coincidences turning up.

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Another small story,a memory just came back.

Around Central Pier in the 70s,they used to do small cruises.

Now these were quite popular.One day,as i remember a warm day,not much swell.On the beach as usual.The people were waiting to board the boat.I remember watching and after a while realised that something was not right.The boat was not coming in.

I said to some chap,"Shall i swim out to it and see what is up"

"Aye go on lad."thinking back maybe this was not the best idea i had had,but went for it.Off i set.

After a while i reached it,no movement from below,could not see in i was quite low in the water.

So using a wave,the swell,at a peak i managed to grip onto the top side and pull myself up.

The skipper was fast asleep,the heat and movement of the boat must have put him out.

When roused,he went into overdrive.

Do you know i did not even get a lift back to shore.I had to swim back.I wonder what the boat was called.

I would like to meet that Skipper,say thanks very much.For nothing.

 

Enough for today. 20.40 Hours Thursday 10/10/2013

 

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A lot to write-and photos to add.So the story is taking me a lot longer than i thought to put together today.

The investigations i carried out last week,all need putting together correctly.

And if the truth be known,i have many notes next to me,and photos,but for now,am struggling to put things down.

So maybe best to chill for a while.It will soon come back,and the words flow again.Sometimes minutes,other times hours slip by.That engrossed tea goes cold,you can not sleep for thinking about things.

So for now the first slideshow photo video,there will be more.This story needs telling.History in the making.

Thanks to David Richardson.You know what for,cheers.And of course Bruce Allen,you have given me plenty to think about today,as always.

Spotted your post CitizenB-I have hundreds of photos,many that are going to surprise people..Many new ones.

And soon i will be concentrating on the names of the Norwegian and Swedish crew of the Abana shipwreck.

Soon i will be putting on close ups of the stone on J Parkinsons place of rest.The inscriptions.It is not morbid it is a celebration of this mans life.As i walked through 2 graveyards,big ones at that,because i did not know where he lay.Many hours were spent looking.You realise these places tell you so much,people should look round these places see what history is there.

I once saw a Pirates grave,getting misty now remembering,think it said-Here lies John Round-Lost At Sea And Never Found.Now that did baffle me.

The posts coming soon are going to shock some,and make people wonder perhaps to keep a eye on things,their local history, the objects that may be rotting away.Once gone that is it.Lost for ever. they should be preserved.For future generations.

 

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Jeg så en Pirates grav, får tåkete nå å huske, tror det sa-Her ligger John Round-Lost At Sea And Never Found.Now som gjorde forbløffe meg.

Stolpene kommer snart kommer til å sjokkere noen, og gjøre folk lurer kanskje for å holde et øye med ting, deres lokale historie, objektene som kan rotting away.Once borte som er it.Lost for alltid. de bør være preserved.For fremtidige generasjoner.

Bruk oversetteren uansett hvor du er i Skandinavia

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I would like to think you have some Norwegian viewers to this as well, TO. You have some great archive photos :)

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Swedish--Använd ths översättare

Norge--Bruk ths oversetter

 

Just going back to The Abana was flying the Norwegian flag 2Q==2Q== Wrecked 22/12/1894.

Built in Saint John-New Brunswick Canada 1874

Belonged to a company in Farsund Norway.

Crew of 16 13 Norwegians,3 Swedes,a ships dog a ships cat,mm wondering about the cat.I know the dog was saved.And all the crew.I did not know about the cat.Not sure on this.AH,the cat was rescued as well.What a story.

At Blackpool the lifeboat "The Samuel Fletcher of Manchester" had just returned from rescuing the crew of the Fleetwood fishing smack "Petrel" when the messenger from Cleveleys arrived, immediately the lifeboat and crew set off for Little Bispham.

 

"The following is a list of names of the 16 Blackpool brave men who were the crew of the lifeboat "Samuel Fletcher" which rescued 17 lives off the wreck at Norbreck. Coxswain - John Cartmell. Second Coxswain - C.Cornall. Bowman - R.Parr. Crew - R.Scott. W.Parkinson. R.Parkinson. J.Parkinson (the popular Blackpool footballer). R.Conall. R.Cornall junr. J.Cornall. H.Parr. R.Parr. J.Rimmer. R.Westhead. E.Stanhope. and E.Salthouse.

The Lifeboat

 

Been out in the lifeboat often? Ay, ay, sir, oft enough.

When it's rougher than this? Lor' bless you! this ain't what we calls rough!

It's when there's a gale a-blowin', and the waves run in and break

On the shore with a roar like thunder and the white cliffs seem to shake;

When the sea is a hell of waters, and the bravest holds his breath

As he hears the cry for the lifeboat -- his summons maybe to death --

That's when we call it rough, sir; but, if we can get her afloat,

There's always enough brave fellows ready to man the boat.

George Robert Sims. 1847-1922.

 

 

Captain Adolph B Danielson.Stll trying to fnd the names of the Abana crew.

Now thinking he settled in America and got married,will come back to this at a future time.

Taking so much time.Will research further later.

Getting info that the lifeboat was pulled by 6 horses that night.

abana_shipwrecked.jpgabana_1874.jpgabana_bell.jpgThe Ships bell,now in St Andrews church,first given to a Cleveleys hotel.

 

 

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Now i feel i am diversifying a little to much away from the Samuel Fletcher of Manchester Lifeboat,so will return and focus back on it.I have tales to tell,and much more to say on Bruce Allen,a special man whose story needs telling.So people can remember this man as time goes by,for decades to come.He is a modest man who only wants one thing,as i have told.Does not care about publicity but deserves much.So i will tell a story about him.

 

I still have photos that people have not seen before and will get round to them.And prepare for some shocks,tales of journeys to unusual places,misty journeys,desolate places,the smell of salt air,narrow channels with strong currents that put fear into you,and if you fell would not be seen again. Mystery,strange photos with no real explanation.Pictures of boats you would not believe.Walks down narrow lanes,to fields in search of things even a Unicorn appeared,now that was unusual,even for myself.Especially when they appear out of the mist.

And much much more.

So remember i am just the teller of this Tale Of The Shoreline,rooting about a touch that is all.

 

One last thought today.I believe there were 11 shipwrecks in the Irish Sea during World War 1.

Whether hit by Submarines torpedoed or other.

Is there any connection anyone knows of to the Samuel Fletcher to any rescues during that time.

Or any launches at that time.

Just a thought.Maybe they were all away on Naval Duties.The crew.

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I have decided to write Bruce's story a bit at a time throughout the thread.

They are all so interesting,some Top Secret in the real mention of the word.So were not told to me.Official Secrets Act etc.

Tonight i will start with a funny one.

Also going to talk about Hostlers-People who looked,or were employed to look after horses

And also the vehicle,the Bogey the lifeboats were carried on back in the 1800s.

And some pictures.Never seen before.So as the evening carries on things will progress.

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You can see the Bogey, below the Lifeboat and the horses.This will become important as the night goes on.

Look at the wheels. The back ones were perhaps 6 feet high, 182 CM steel rims,10 inch 25CM or thereabouts wide so the lifeboat could travel across the sand.Not sink

 

It is not hard,even now to see where Horses were kept in Towns and cities in Great Britain.In the1800s.

You only have to mention the word Mews.

 

  1. A row or street of houses or apartments that have been converted from stables or built to look like former stables.
  2. A group of stables, typically with rooms above, built around a yard or along an alley.

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Right before i get things really moving.Here is the first story of Bruce Allen,whose importance in the story of the Samuel Fletcher i feel cannot be underestimated.

He has some medical problems,but is happy although at times in pain.

Talking to him the other day he told me many stories of his life.That i have stored and will not forget.

 

Here is a light one to begin with.The doctor told him to only smoke 5 cigarettes a day.

So Bruce being the man he is,does just that.He produced one of his rolled up cigarettes,each one 10 inches long.

How many he has stored,you can only guess.

Also told me how corned beef was made,which i did not know.

Cooked in the tin.flavor and sterile,locked in.In great ovens,talked about how he had eaten a tin from 1947,sell by dates do not mean much to him.Enjoyed it too.Back in the 70s i seem to remember.More will be told throughout the thread.

 

Back to the story.

The horses used as you can imagine,when a shout went up for the lifeboat were drawn quickly from many places.

As far as i know,they were not staying next to the Lifeboat perhaps near the crew who must have lived and worked nearby.

There must have been hundreds of horses to call upon.In the heat of the moment they were pulled off the shoreline.anywhere that was nearby and had a horse available must have been drawn upon,harnessed up and off they went racing to the rescue.

Raging winds,slates,god knows what flying around,off they all went.The crew racing to the lifeboat.What must they have thought.Can you imagine getting to the Shoreline.Let us try to think,paint a picture what it was like,still is i suppose,no doubts,it must be,let us imagine what a man must have seen.Think,try,probably impossible but let us try.

 

Somewhere out at sea,a severe gale,approaching hurricane even has blown up.

A ship and men on board although calm,deep inside them they worry.The skys are black,the waves break over the ship.Cold hail,thunder snow,sleet a mixture.The captain perhaps,fighting to stay in control.

The ship,the snow,sleet the mixture of everything these storms can throw at you is beginning to freeze.The decks are slippery.

Perhaps the masts had ice forming,icicles forming dropping to the deck.Smashing in all directions.Maybe the spray was freezing even.The sails with the ice,ripping.Hell really.

Even freezing on the mens clothes.Their beards,their hair turning white with the cold.

Do not forget at these times,no lifeboats as such no engines.The ship is tossed about like a leaf falling from a tree in a Autumn storm,but this is 3 days before Christmas Day.Winter.The coldest in memory.

The waves are mountainess,the ship going up and down facing the oceans might.Waves you can not see over.

Suddenly the sails are torn,ripped off with the might of the storm.

Now powerless at the mercy of the storm.

This goes on for hour after hour,what were they thinking of.I should imagine many of them at times like this were thinking of their families back home.All real hope of riding out the storm gone.They knew their fate was sealed,in others hands.

 

Lookouts perhaps,knowing these waters were keeping watch from shore,looking out for ships in trouble,flares noise anything..

Suddenly one spots the ship in the distance or the flare,perhaps seen one before and knows what to do.

Whether flares were sent up,cannon fired or a rider sent to the lifeboat station i can not say at this time.

But the message was delivered.

 

The lifeboat crewmen,how they got to the lifeboat i do not know yet,but many perhaps were working nearby.

Perhaps even had horses of their own,and raced to the lifeboat.

By this time,by the time they got to the lifeboat i should imagine many things were already underway.

Horses rearing,men appearing,horses and harnesses being attached to the lifeboat,the bogey in place.

Chaos and calmness,trepidation,of what was to come.Adrenalin must have been flowing through the veins of these brave men,there is no doubt,and i dare say,the same today.Do not forget a storm was raging on land as well.

Things being blown about,hardly hear what the man next to you was saying.

 

I cannot say how long before the Lifeboat was ready,perhaps ten minutes before with a shout of they raced through the howling gale to the Shoreline.

When arriving at the shoreline what did they see.I can almost hear the hooves of perhaps four or six horses,the Bogey with the Lifeboat creaking and rattling as they raced along.The men on board.They must have been holding on for dear life.

Perhaps giving each other a silent look.The look that does not need speech to convey a thought.

At the shoreline whether tide in or out,the first look at the mountainess seas,the sand perhaps blowing.

Even one particle of sand in these conditions,these winds feel like a needle piercing your skin.It stings.

I have felt this,even moving in these conditions is hard enough.The wind you feel is going to blow you over.You can hardly move.

I have seen myself what looks like a blizzard on the prom,caused by foam from the sea.Perhaps this also was about.

So imagine in those days what it might have felt like.Driving hail and the rest,vertical hitting you.

Lifeboat and men unhitched from the Horses and Bogey finally put to sea,in conditions,well i personally can not imagine.But buffeted about,somehow managing to put the oars out and drive on towards the ship.What must this have felt like.The journey that took perhaps 1 hour or more.We can try .Waves perhaps 10 feet or more

When arriving at the ship perhaps Leeward away from the worst of the storm,next to the ship now,can you think of the skill needed to control the Lifeboat at this time. The ship still tossing and turning,bedlam all around,panic,stress all around.What were the lifeboatmen feeling.

The crew of the ship must have felt relief,perhaps these hard men had tears in their eyes.

Some had been shipwrecked before and must have felt this time my time is up.On my way to Davey Jones locker.

Sliding down ropes into the Lifeboat.Saved from the perils of the sea..

Then the drive back to land which also must have been one hell of a journey,tiredness,aching limbs,still fighting the elements.,still at risk,the boat with the extra weight sometimes scraping the sea floor,up and down with the height of the waves,getting soaked through,men pulling on the oars.Many by this time must be waiting on the shoreline.families,friends,well wishers half the town i should imagine.No matter what the conditions these brave men go out,even to this day.

 

Well that is the best i can do for now.Remember that is a guess of what things might have been like.Only the date is a fact.Kept for another time.When a story that crossed my path is on my mind.The Mexico.

It is now time to tell you of a journey i made last week in search of something and found.

If tonight i do not manage to put pictures on i will tomorrow.In fact i am gong to chill for a while the pictures i will put on tomorrow.Tiredness has caught up on me.You cannot fight that too long.10-45pm Tues

 

4-15am- Wednesday woke up thinking about things,also had connection problems so will put the photos on later today.

Hi CitizenB spotted your post, the photos archive ones where possible i find on the web-either RNLI or elsewhere.

I acknowledge or will if not already as the thread continues.Like they do on certain stories elsewhere.This is pretty new to me.There will be plenty more of mine.But happy to share anywhere.

Also people like The historian at Liverpool Football club sent me links and pictures to use.

Kjell Hanssen, football historian

The photos i will put on shortly are mine.But i do not feel this way.To be shared anywhere.

And i feel perhaps will show things where they should not be.If anyone wants to copy them.Feel free.

I am not going to watermark them or things like that.

Maybe to some not a big thing,but to myself and perhaps others i feel they should be.

I would like them perhaps to make a small contribution to the RNLI,or the Samuel Fletcher fund.However as this as far as i know is not yet organised.Well i will leave it to them to decide whether to hold for a while.

As i say this is all new to me,things are happening perhaps as i write,history in the making perhaps.

I have been searching in America,looking through records,sometimes you fall asleep at the computer.So time consuming,and mentally tiring.I will research all the crew of shipwrecks of all nationalities,all the lifeboat crews connections to the Fylde Coast, Canada,America,Scandinavia so many places.I know at the moment i have concentrated on one crew member but will cover them all as time goes on.Maybe the old owl,will write a book,who knows.Of course if i do,all net profit goes to the RNLI or maintenance of the Samuel Fletcher Lifeboat in Blackpool. ,why not.But the first will be about the Samuel Fletcher of Manchester,the crew their lives,rescues they made,their families,everything possible.And Bruce Allen will be mentioned as well.I am beginning to work out things about the Lifeboat as time goes by.And Bruce is a massive part of it.The story of the Lifeboat is so interesting.So many twists and turns yet to be told.

I am sensing something about Bruce,there is a lot to be told yet,and will be.

 

Forget the idea of Stanley Park and the notion i had about sailing there again.The Lifeboat is to important for that now.

I would like as Bruce would to see the Lifeboat restored and pulled through the Streets of Blackpool by horse,once more to sail on the Irish Sea then put somewhere safe,complete with the stories of ships it has rescued crews,artefacts many things,for people across the world to wonder,gaze and feel the history.,bravery of this historic vessel.

It is now time to put some photos on.Just let me alter the story above a little.And bring something forward i wrote before. .

 

First of all i am going to bring some pictures of a Bogey,that carried Lifeboats.Take note of the wheels.

 

 

 

 

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This is very interesting indeed, TO. Do you own these archive photos ?

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Prepare for some shocks,tales of journeys to unusual places,misty journeys,desolate places,the smell of salt air,narrow channels with strong currents that put fear into you,and if you fell would not be seen again. Mystery,strange photos with no real explanation.Pictures of boats you would not believe.Walks down narrow lanes,to fields in search of things even a Unicorn appeared,now that was unusual,even for myself.Especially when they appear out of the mist.

.While on one of my searches i came across these.

.Are these the front wheels of the Bogey that carried the Samuel Fletcher of Manchester Lifeboat over 110 years ago.Can you believe this picture.Also there part of the carriage.I believe the back wheels over 2 metres 6 feet high are also in the area.Even ,as you can see may not be used again,but who knows,modern preservatives could stop any more decay and be displayed with the lifeboat when restored..Sure to come back to this at a future time.

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