Annonomous calls to social services

[greensaab]

i have a 16 year old severly disabled son in a wheelchair, who on friday 13th decided he was not going to get in his wheelchair to get on the bus to go to school. despite numerous attempts woody and buzz fighting all sorts of games he still would not budge off his bean bag. So in my wisdom, i grasped him by the ankles and pulled him on his bean bag out of the house, on the way playing chugga chugga choo too.

 

He was laughing the whole time. We bumpty bumpt down the two steps and across the dive still chugga choo chhoing to the front gate. Where i left him to get his wheelchair. on the way out he had decided to return up the drive wat so i again got hold of him by ankles and pulled him to his wheel chair. he was laughing all the time. i then threw his toys at him in an exaggerated manor. Heres woody,heres jessie.

 

i then went to pick him up to put him in his wheelchair when he went all floppy and refused.My neighbour who had just arrived home came running across and tried to help me get him in his wheelchair. He refused and went ridgid. Eventually he relaxed so we could so his lap belt. then the PA on the bus said that they couldnt take him. Well to be honest I just lost it ,

 

I have been off work with pnuemonia and felt ****. So i told her she could have him and went inside. She then made two phone calls to passenger transport. evebtually i calmed down 5 mins told her the door was on the latch and she brought him in and enery thing was fine. 4.30 in evening i find i have 2 social workers on my doorstep. They have recuieved 2 annomous phone calls that i have abused my son by dragging him along pavement.

 

they came and intervied me i told them what had ahppened they thewn made me take my son to the doctor to be examined for what was a scratch.

i am now faced with an initial child protection conference under section 47 enquiry.

i work as a TA in my local secondary school they have had a multi agency meeting about me at my work.

 

the annonomous reports were made by neighbours who have got a real grudge as we reported them to police for Traffic and drugs offences. We know it was them cause another neighbour tolds us.

 

i am at my wits end and dont know what to do, passenger transport are refusing to take him to school, i have a severe chest infection and all Social Services seem to want to do is attack us. The meeting is on thursday and we have no reports or statements.

 

I feel so helpless

Edited October 1, 2013 by Conniff

[stu007]

Hi greensaab

 

I am sorry to here the situation you are in at present and it dosent help that you have been unwell from the beginning of this and still are.

 

Please be patient as its the early hours but I am sure the caggers will be along to give you some advice.

 

I will see if I can get some more help for you so please be patient.

[Conniff]

I would say that with so much in the news of late of the Social Services lack of action and accusations that they were at fault for

not taking action, then I can see their side of things.

 

Don't be too hard on them, if something nasty was really happening and they didn't respond, that would be wrong as well.

[greensaab]

Yes, I agree but in my situation there was no need to proceed at section 47, inform my employers.

the social workers saw my son. He was examined by his doctor who said no injury. There has been no history of any prvious. I was above board explained everything.

There is no need for this witch Hunt

[Ros1609]

It can feel like a 'witch hunt'. My neighbour reported me not so long ago for shouting at my kids. It didn't escalate to a Section 47 as fortunately I got a sensible social worker who listened to what I had to say. She also agreed that it seemed coincidental that I get reported for something every parent does occasionally after I had contacted my local council about this particular neighbours noise levels.

 

However in the past I have had it proceed at Section 47 because I got a social worker who didn't listen and insisted on doing everything she possibly could. My advice would be to start keeping a diary. Start with the initial 'incident' and write everything down including the name of the GP you saw etc. Every time you have contact with these people write it down. I say to do this because when I got the report it could have been written about a totally different family, nothing in there was right, she had given me a history of mental illness (ok I had PND but she put in the report I'd been sectioned!) etc. I was able to use my diary to prove the report was a fabrication and get it amended to reflect what had really happened. Outcome was no action was taken against me.

 

Finally stay calm. Can you have someone attend this meeting with you given that you are unwell and therefore not 100%

[claire1981]

First step in you absolutely need to see the social workers report before they proceed to conference. If you haven't seen it, immediately call up council as soon as you can to report failure to supply it. Maybe ask to speak to conference chair immediately (write a letter confirming non-receipt/date & sign- if you can't give it to conference chair in person- make sure you're give a receipt by reception & call back later to make sure they got it). You are entitled to see ALL relevant reports, they can't keep them from you to protect others identities- they should black out names etc. Chances are if you haven't been given it, the social worker is still writing it, which itself is very bad practice. My experience was going to conference without proper procedures being followed & permission had been granted for the conference before any reports had been written or there was any evidence of any risk! IT'S TOO LATE WAITING UNTIL THE ACTUAL CONFERENCE TO STATE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN REPORTS- PROFESSIONALS WILL LIE & YOU WILL BE IGNORED!Allegation or bigoted assumption isn't enough to go to conference with. There needs to be reason to suspect serious risk, a bigoted neighbors word is still not enough! Even a bigoted social workers word isn't enough!

 

The best thing to do is try to prevent the conference taking place at all, by showing it's in breech of law. It doesn't sound like they technically have enough to go to conference & are only doing so using bigoted professional opinion again! By hurrying you into conference you have no time to stop them making up lies to get access to your child. All they care about is getting access to your child & wasting their budget on that! In my experience the reason cases like baby p exist is because they are too busy wasting resources on those whose lifestyles they simply don't approve of eg single/unemployed & not enough time going after deadly bullies.

 

I didn't know about reports so couldn't ask to see or know I was entitled to see them. Only at conference hearing them falsely claim they had shown me & only then realizing I should have been shown social worker & health visitors report at least 48 hours before the conference. Them showing you 10 minutes before the conference or even only during it- isn't adequate! Although social worker & HV were apparently supposed to show me I was not able to get GP to admit they should've shown me in advance. Once you obtain reports you should be able to see what their agenda is & you then know what routes are open! And what they hope to achieve by just giving your child a protection plan & maybe visiting when they can be bothered or have resources! If you or your child has a disability, they use this even more so as an excuse to get away with harassing you. As my child isn't disabled, I'm disabled- I can home educate her. If it was the other way around they would've forced me to send her to school.

 

Social workers are mostly stupid, they are easily fooled with an act. Their work is still littered with outdated rhetoric. Such as demonizing single Mums & wrongly stating 2 parent families are best. This originated from parishes who had to pay for babies born to single mums. Parishes disliked this & when fathers were known they would force them to marry & keep the Mum- so they didn't have to. Most professional just want to tick boxes & hear the right lingo- they have no idea they are being played by the system. Some genuinely believe they are helping & will claim you are the one who is closed minded! Your neighbor has probably had runs in with SS & knows exactly what lingo to use to get professionals all worked up to. I was amazed at the wild imagination SS already have!

[claire1981]

Yes, I agree but in my situation there was no need to proceed at section 47, inform my employers.

the social workers saw my son. He was examined by his doctor who said no injury. There has been no history of any previous. I was above board explained everything.

There is no need for this witch Hunt

 

Do you have a copy of GP reports stating no injury- this is important. Also be aware they assess the mental state of child & don't tell you- it's important to know what they put. Can you get a copy of any such records in time? I would suggest you can't & that's why they are rushing this- so you don't have time! Be forceful with council! They have not given you chance to do anything! State in writing also that you have fully complied & there's no proof/reason to assume you would refuse visits etc- if they wish!

 

I wished I booked an appointment with my GP as they were also my child's, but I doubt they'd have discussed anything anyway. Though you'd have thought they were duty bound to- if you wish to maybe you could ask them "do you suggest hat I need any help?" (must admit I only speak with GPs with hidden dictation machine on now) Try to see what their views/agenda are?

 

State to council that you intend to provide reports & need more time- show you are willing to provide all factual info you can & are entitled to do so. I often wonder what the point of these conferences are- just to slander us I suspect! Sadly social workers aren't held to account for consequences of wrongfully calling conferences- such as depression/suicide etc. The professionals past actions & conference itself caused me severe depression/suicidal thoughts, where there were previously none. In effect they brought on poor health, by continually harassing me & out of the blue claiming I was depressed & neglecting child. All this cost them was a pathetic £5000 compensation & deleting all record of protection plan ever having been issued (at least in their records!) All this took 5 years. Always best to try putting great effort into preventing it being allowed to convene!

[claire1981]

Number one tip: Phone council & ask if you can have the conference recorded. Plus that you intend to record it too!

 

They may say no, but they can't stop you doing so. You can just say you are doing so in order to properly transcribe it later! I didn't do this & the factual record of conference contained not a single truthful word- even my child's name was wrong! It was full of allegation/wild speculation, said as if proven or coming from witness or me. Conversation had been mixed up, wrongly labelled as if I'd said the allegations 'keeps child awake to keep her company'. This was a bigoted social worker- who got this just from child clearly teething. She judged me by her own standards- I have autism & would never deliberately seek out company- happy with my own!

Edited October 1, 2013 by claire1981

[greensaab]

I have spoken to Social Services who say they have a legal obligation to provide the Social Workers report a minimum of 24 hours before conference.

 

This basically gives me no time to provide other witnesses who could rubbish this case.

 

i have the doctors intial report on the examination. in which he states Marks on back unable to examine very detailed due to poor co operation. Not significantly swollen, not tender to palpitation, corroborates with history of trying to get in to wheelchair down steps, 10 to 12 longitudial lines 10 cm meters approx perpendicilar to spine

 

in Fact what they are are stretch marks which have been on his back for years and birth marks. there was no cut no blood no abrasion which there would have been if i had dragged him along pavement as i apparenlty did. Also no damage to clothing or hands arms elbows etc. No tears and he was quite happy when he came in.

 

Yes i did loose my temper and shouted I even through his cuddle toy at him. I did shout at the Escort and told her to keep him. i was open and honest with Social worker i didnt hide anything. in fact i have been too open.

 

This case boils down to vindictive neighbours and an inadequate social worker who did not do her job.

 

We asked her for respite care and said we needed help with our son in mornings back in March 2013. This was refused and the only help we were given was 8 hours a week during holidays for someone to take him out. 2 hours a week was offered for morning care which is not available.

 

Can I get this conference persponed untill we see reports and Seek advice ??? Does anyone know

[claire1981]

I have spoken to Social Services who say they have a legal obligation to provide the Social Workers report a minimum of 24 hours before conference.

 

This basically gives me no time to provide other witnesses who could rubbish this case.

 

i have the doctors intial report on the examination. in which he states Marks on back unable to examine very detailed due to poor co operation. Not significantly swollen, not tender to palpitation, corroborates with history of trying to get in to wheelchair down steps, 10 to 12 longitudial lines 10 cm meters approx perpendicilar to spine

 

in Fact what they are are stretch marks which have been on his back for years and birth marks. there was no cut no blood no abrasion which there would have been if i had dragged him along pavement as i apparenlty did. Also no damage to clothing or hands arms elbows etc. No tears and he was quite happy when he came in.

 

Yes i did loose my temper and shouted I even through his cuddle toy at him. I did shout at the Escort and told her to keep him. i was open and honest with Social worker i didnt hide anything. in fact i have been too open.

 

This case boils down to vindictive neighbours and an inadequate social worker who did not do her job.

 

We asked her for respite care and said we needed help with our son in mornings back in March 2013. This was refused and the only help we were given was 8 hours a week during holidays for someone to take him out. 2 hours a week was offered for morning care which is not available.

 

Can I get this conference persponed untill we see reports and Seek advice ??? Does anyone know

 

If the marks are birth/stretch marks, is there no way of getting him to a GP again tomorrow to show that they are still present & therefore prove this couldn't have been you? Surely GP must do a home visit if you request & can provide an instant home report to confirm what they are- you need a diagnosis if this is causing problems! Even if you can only get a health visitor or nurse to look at them, it would be invaluable to have a profesional confirm in writing that they are still present. I think it would count for a lot if you could get this & mmediately take copies- hand into social services. They will only doubt your word, not another professional! They will asume you don't have time to do this- but I think it's possible! If present at birth- why weren't they noted! You would hope a GP could tell the difference, but some birth marks do grow to look severe

 

The problem with requesting it be postponed is, they'll be unlikely to unless you can provide very good reason. All invites will have been sent to GP/ Police/nurses etc & it would cause significant disturbance to them to cancel. By the sounds of it council were premature. But that will make little difference to their dislike of admitting this & disrupting other professionals, who they have to work closely with. They would rather inconvenience/harass you rather than lose face. You can make requests but they don't have to acknowledge them. However if you have made them officially in writing & have proof they have received them- it will strengthen your case if they refuse. If they are taking this to conference usually they have already decided to give the child a protection plan- they think they have enough evidence. You therefore need to show them something that trumps their evidence, such as confirmation the GP was wrong. Also don't assume this was your neighbor, what about the escort?

 

Expect professionals to have mixed facts up, during their long game of Chinese whispers that led to conference being authorized. Where the report says they couldn't examine due to poor cooperation- you need to ensure they are aware this was your child refusing- not you. Things like this often get mixed up by those who have no idea what it's like to have a disabled child & just assume the parent is the root of all problems.

 

It's interesting that they say 24 hours. After my run in with social services, my council claimed as a result of my complaint they were including parent leaflet explaining procedure & that parents should see reports minimum of 48 hours before a conference! It seems a bit unfair that some are making up own rules!

 

I was not aware that council could refuse requests for respite care, did you make the request in writing? Everything needs to be in writing & sent recorded delivery- obtaining support letter from GP helps too. if you could prove genuine need that you have a severely disabled child- surely you qualify & their opinion doesn't matter. If they can't provide care, they should at least refer you to a charity that can- if they aren't doing that it seems dodgy. Councils can claim they give budget to charities to provide services- but when you need that service you should get referral! Council have been given a budget for it, how do they account for it's whereabouts if they aren't spending it on the families that need it- where's it going!

 

IF ALL ELSE FAILS CALL THEIR BLUFF: MARCH INTO SOCIAL SERVICES TOMORROW DEMANDING A PERMANENT SOCIAL WORKER OR SUPPORT WORKER FOR YOUR CHILD! THIS IS THE LAST THING THEY WILL BE EXPECTING & HAVING TO STATE YOU DID THIS TO THE CONFERENCE WOULD LEAVE THEM RED FACED! You may actually get one who instead of trying to slander you, helps your family by providing info about rest-bite care. It was down to my support worker that I got a diagnosis of aspergers at 31- they can sometimes be useful.

Edited October 1, 2013 by claire1981

[greensaab]

This is my problem without seeing the reports i dont know what has been said and by who. So I have no way of defending myself or providing counter evidence. i have taken photos of my sons back arms legs etc . also the bean bag, the steps i "dragged "him down. the pavement i" dragged "him across. his school cloths , the pavement,my drive way, where the bus parks, neighbours houses. Honest its like a crime scence !!. i cannot find anywhere that tells you what legislation there is to procedures and time scales. All i can find on internet is that this should have been treated as a section 17 not 47.

 

And to and injury to insult with all my chest infections My heart murmur has now decided to play up. Might not even make this conference. Is a bed in ICU a good reason to not attend or pospone

 

LOL if i didnt i'd cry, However there is worse i could be on the X Factor.... Now there's Child Abuse !!!!!

[claire1981]

This is my problem without seeing the reports i dont know what has been said and by who. So I have no way of defending myself or providing counter evidence. i have taken photos of my sons back arms legs etc . also the bean bag, the steps i "dragged "him down. the pavement i" dragged "him across. his school cloths , the pavement,my drive way, where the bus parks, neighbours houses. Honest its like a crime scence !!. i cannot find anywhere that tells you what legislation there is to procedures and time scales. All i can find on internet is that this should have been treated as a section 17 not 47.

 

And to and injury to insult with all my chest infections My heart murmur has now decided to play up. Might not even make this conference. Is a bed in ICU a good reason to not attend or pospone

 

LOL if i didnt i'd cry, However there is worse i could be on the X Factor.... Now there's Child Abuse !!!!!

 

I know it sounds illogical but I would not provide them with any proof to hang me with. Photos of where this is suppose to have happened are you confirming it did. I would try to gloss over that detail if I were you. The longer you dwell on it the more they will use your admittance to hang you with! They will have calculated your response to bring pictures & admit you did it etc. Photos can be interpreted many ways. Professional opinion must be accepted as is- they will have that doctors report & it did not sound good. The best way to trump this is with a recent report from a nurse/doctor saying the marks are still present & should have disappeared by now if caused by you- so appear to be birth marks! If they can corroborate the marks still exist there's probably not even any need to admit anything- in fact doing so just digs you deeper!

 

As far as I'm aware no parent is required to attend a conference, but most chose to so they can put their side across/defend self from any unexpected 'new' material! In theory there shouldn't be any, in practice there's often reports prepared by GP/school/carers etc listing child's health history- immunization etc. Which can include gossiping between agencies & social workers, who play Chinese whispers & add speculation under guise of factual info! If you have a job around children or vulnerable people, I think you'ill be aware a resulting 'protection plan' may result in employer being informed you've been found a risk to a child.

 

I've found a place that say you can't take a Dictaphone to conference, but I honestly don't believe that! You can't force people to have to take notes at lightning speed! If you say the recording is for personal use to transcribe later I see no legal reason why not! The obvious reason to refuse is that it's well known conferences always result in everything said being taken out of context- hence admit nothing!

 

I'm going to assume that you put your child first & don't really care more about your job or the conference. In this case, it will not be the end of the world whatever happens- they can't do anything serious if this is all they have. You should therefore focus more on maintaining your health so you can get well soon. After my child's conference all they proposed was fortnightly visits from social workers + got my mother to say she promised to always see my child everyday- which was already happening voluntarily, no need to formalize it. They made no effort to check if this happened! Actually having the protection plan seemed to make social services feel less responsible & surely puts kids at risk. Indeed all local social workers were on holiday immediately after & I had to keep calling to get them to visit me eventually- as I was desperate to prove they'd made a big mistake!

Edited October 1, 2013 by claire1981

[greensaab]

Thank you for this. Yes you are right my son matters more than anything including my Job.

 

i got a copy of social workers report today and one glaring remark was that i showed no "remorse over the incident". Well i blew my top.

 

No remorse, All i did was dispute that i had caused the injury. The whole report is full of inconsistenceies.

 

Cant wait for tomorrows meeting , Got all guns blazing.

 

However one thing that was not included was any witness statements. Surely I should be allowed to see them

[claire1981]

Thank you for this. Yes you are right my son matters more than anything including my Job.

 

i got a copy of social workers report today and one glaring remark was that i showed no "remorse over the incident". Well i blew my top.

 

No remorse, All i did was dispute that i had caused the injury. The whole report is full of inconsistenceies.

 

Cant wait for tomorrows meeting , Got all guns blazing.

 

However one thing that was not included was any witness statements. Surely I should be allowed to see them

 

You have been fitted up! This makes me so angry how easily they get away with this! I hate to say it but what you say tomorrow will probably make little difference, it didn't with me. I said everything that proved my child had never been at risk- they just ignored me. All they paid any attention to was professionals reports + all professionals around the table blindly agreeing with professionals reports- despite no proof. The professionals could literally have said I'd murdered someone, they invented such outrageous records. Whatever they put was literally just accept without needing anything to back it up- this is how conferences work!

 

In the absence of another professional stating things are fine, explaining marks etc- professionals have been taught to assume the worst & bound by a code stating they can't ignore other professionals concerns & must support them! They will not use logic! All the professionals there are trained to ignore anything positive you say & only absorb what key professionals say. I fear they will still accept what is written in professionals report, no matter what you say- unless you have evidence from another professional.

 

If given a protection plan this is equivalent to 'child at serious risk of harm' declaration & what they will be aiming for. If not you'll be given 'action plan'- which is more or less the same- but not technically going to affect career. I'm sure they have targets of kids they must give 'protection plans' too- with me they literally gave my child at risk decision purely by alleging I had depression! I got proof after the initial conference from the new social worker, who was not as bad as first! But by then you feel absolutely disgusted because they have got their way & slandered you. By having a social worker visit you & write in their records that all is well, then at the 3 monthly review you have a professional proving this & even over a period of time! You really need a professional on side.

 

I still think it would go a long way to refuting professionals reports & leave them red faced if there's any way to get a community nurse or doctor to visit today & state marks are still present. Plus what they may be- surely you have a right to know if they are permanent/cause etc! Professionals would probably use some poncy Latin name for them. But also the fact you let someone in to see your child could go down well- as long as the person says all good things. After all you probably would prefer not to take your child to the conference! I took my toddler who was visibly happy/healthy- they made me put her in a playroom they didn't monitor, just with my Mother! The professionals could have checked her over them self, but not one of them even bothered to see her at all! The professional are clearly just pen pushers! Apparently they get away with doing these last minute/urgent conferences based on allegation 'it's believed the child is or is likely to be suffering significant harm' & is a child in need- but there my child was right under their nose & they completely ignored her! Then after they had got the pathetic piece of paper 'protection plan'- they refused to visit! The system makes no sense!

 

If given protection plan, while it's active a warning will flash up on GPs screen- if you take your child to see them. But this is pathetic, if a person is really abusing their child, surely they just wouldn't take them to get medical help- indeed this could actually be used by a selfish person as a deterrent to seek help!

Edited October 2, 2013 by claire1981

[greensaab]

Luckily My sons school nurse will attend tomorrow and will be able to confirm Marks on back. Also I have seen School report which sates they have no concerns re CP. Says that in the 14 years the have known us there has never been and still is no concerns.

 

Although i havnt seen it my GP has told me he has said the same thing. I have a photograph of my sons back and would show to GP who would confirm they were the same marks he saw nearly 3 weeks ago.

 

I have highlighted points that are incorrect and where possible provided documentary evidence to back me up.

 

My biggest point will be that they state i have shown no remorse. That is slander and now its written it is also libel. So next step is to get a solicitor involved

 

They are not going to get away with this NO WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[claire1981]

Thank you for this. Yes you are right my son matters more than anything including my Job.

 

i got a copy of social workers report today and one glaring remark was that i showed no "remorse over the incident". Well i blew my top.

 

No remorse, All i did was dispute that i had caused the injury. The whole report is full of inconsistenceies.

 

Cant wait for tomorrows meeting , Got all guns blazing.

 

However one thing that was not included was any witness statements. Surely I should be allowed to see them

 

Sorry to write so much. it's just I get so angry when vulnerable parents are harassed & abused- which is done so easily these days.

 

There were no witness statements with me either. In my case I had been fitted up by the health visitor who told me to do 'timed crying' to get baby to sleep. I told her I refuse to do it as poor sleep was due to baby teething- but HV said she'd 'get others involved' if I refused to comply. When I did comply with what she said, she said I'd only tried a halfhearted attempt & said I must do it properly. I did the next day & it obviously caused crying- a neighbor reported this. 2 social workers came round the next day & investigated- I told them it was health visitors advice- they checked & confirmed this. But at the conference my health visitor who made me do it, refused to accept it was her fault & never admitted she was the cause (only reported the result 'crying')! She had gossiped with all agencies to get them to record the report of loud crying & stated she witnessed my child was unhappy! Records later showed that HV had added negative comments to records weeks after the original record of her visit- just to fabricate evidence. It was only long after conference I was able to obtain records to have any chance of fighting it, by then it was too late as all professionals had recorded in their agencies records that my child is 'at risk'. There was also no sources of where allegations of crying had come from- but it was obviously neighbor. I got access to children's social care records that later confirm an anonymous call was received from a 'concerned neighbor'. But to be honest this is all they had & for all they know this 'neighbor' could' have been my jealous health visitor! My situation was made worse by 'admitting' at conference that the crying had occurred & it being HVs 'timed crying'.

 

Normally there's no way to eradicate an at risk decision, it will remain on record, at least as a past concern- even when it ends. And all the agencies who attend will get copy of conference minutes/report & it will be uploaded to their agencies records too. The minutes are usually highly inaccurate too, as there is no 'minute taker'. I was asked to write notes on a piece of paper- I had already told them I couldn't as a migraine was preventing my sight & my carer was my mother- who was caring for my child! The professionals all wrote notes too, but mixed things up- especially who said what. They wrongly reported me saying HV comments & nothing of what I said was included! I had written a report to take to conference- as invite said all need to write a report- I thought this meant me too. There had literally been no explanation. At conference I find them alleging I had not wanted to see reports 48 hours before conference/go through them or procedure- this was total lies. I had asked to, but they had refused- yet no one believed me at conference. The chair merely asked socials worker & accepted her word that she had- records later proved this a lie. This is why taking a Dictaphone is highly recommended- I'd take 2 (1 in full view & 1 hidden as back up).

 

Also even if you manage to later prove child was never at risk & policy wasn't followed they still refuse to remove them. But even if they do delete record of past protection plan, they will claim they can't force other agencies to remove from theirs.

Edited October 2, 2013 by claire1981

[claire1981]

Luckily My sons school nurse will attend tomorrow and will be able to confirm Marks on back. Also I have seen School report which sates they have no concerns re CP. Says that in the 14 years the have known us there has never been and still is no concerns.

 

Although i havnt seen it my GP has told me he has said the same thing. I have a photograph of my sons back and would show to GP who would confirm they were the same marks he saw nearly 3 weeks ago.

 

I have highlighted points that are incorrect and where possible provided documentary evidence to back me up.

 

My biggest point will be that they state i have shown no remorse. That is slander and now its written it is also libel. So next step is to get a solicitor involved

 

They are not going to get away with this NO WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's good that you have this. The fact they have put you have shown no remorse will make no difference. They were claiming you physically harmed him & didn't care. If you prove you didn't- the fact they claim you showed no remorse is actually a good thing. It tallies with the fact you caused no physical harm.

 

If you decided to try to get your child to do something beneficial to them, by pulling them to a car etc- this doesn't equal mental harm either. Provided the thing was in the best interest of the child, which it sounds like it was considered to be. Some social workers have them self got away with physically dragging kids to health assessments or 'special schools' etc kicking & screaming, as it can be proven it was done in the best interest of the child.

[Conniff]

You be careful thinking of slander/Libel, they aren't suites where the winner takes all.

[greensaab]

yes i know !!! (not sure you mean Suites LOL) but this makes me so mad that things can be said about you like that and you can have no defence.

 

I show no remorse because i didnt hurt or injury my son. the only remorse i have is putting my family and friends through this.

 

The only remorse i have is in thinking a social worker would make my life and my sons better.

 

The press is full of Kids needing protection etc. These are supossed intlelligent people cannot they not see that this is not an abused child.

 

Even doctor said no injury. All that was needed was a meeting with school, CAMHS ,transport etc to agree a way forward. Social Services to agree to funding for help in morning. no need for section 47 and this complete waste of everyone's time a resources.

 

A chair, 2 social workers, school nurse and headmaster, GP, OT,DS from policy, Community nurse from CAMHS, County solicitor and Old Uncle Tom Cobbly and all.

 

No bruising just a mark which was probaly his birth mark. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And What is more annyoing is i have £729.00 of local authority money sitting in an account to pay for respite care during holidays !!!!!! but cannot use it to fund help in mornings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[claire1981]

You be careful thinking of slander/Libel, they aren't suites where the winner takes all.

 

It's hard to make anything stick to social services. I don't think greensaab should pay for a solicitor them self either (not worth expense) & unless kids are at risk of being taken away- there's no prospect of free legal aid, even if was on benefits. Unfortunately social workers dealing with children are given the power of god. This is why most of them have their heads so firmly jammed up their jaxi & make such stupid remarks! They know there's virtually nothing you can do or will happen as a consequence- they get away with much worse. In my case the whole of my child's social care file/health notes was compiled in secret & filled with nothing factual whatsoever- it was all 'libelous'. There was blatant proof of tampering with records etc. The department had even been found 'unfit for purpose' by official assessor at this time & were aware of this- but still they carried on. The point is there's no other option- they can't be shut down.

 

In my case I was even told that my complaints didn't even meet the threshold to be considered as a complaint. This is because the first step is to complain to the conference chair- who is obviously never going to admit they got it very wrong or put colleagues in it. It then takes ages to continue, most people are put off. I don't mean to sound trivial but to say that you showed no remorse, is actually a very minor comment- believe me they could say much worse & have nothing happen. This probably really wouldn't meet social services internal complaints process threshold- I doubt you'd even be offered an apology. It was clear from my file that I'd been severely harassed by social services even before my child was born, up until she was almost 2- when this was proved all they thought I was entitled to was an apology & letter stating my child had never been at risk. It took 5 years to be able to complete councils own complaints process & be entitled to go to local government ombudsman to get them to force action. No solicitor would help me as I couldn't pay. If I'd been able to pay, it would probably have cost me a fortune & more than I ended up with- which was only paid due to the time it had taken to deal with my complaint.

Edited October 2, 2013 by claire1981

[claire1981]

yes i know !!! (not sure you mean Suites LOL) but this makes me so mad that things can be said about you like that and you can have no defence.

 

I show no remorse because i didnt hurt or injury my son. the only remorse i have is putting my family and friends through this.

 

The only remorse i have is in thinking a social worker would make my life and my sons better.

 

The press is full of Kids needing protection etc. These are supossed intlelligent people cannot they not see that this is not an abused child.

 

Even doctor said no injury. All that was needed was a meeting with school, CAMHS ,transport etc to agree a way forward. Social Services to agree to funding for help in morning. no need for section 47 and this complete waste of everyone's time a resources.

 

A chair, 2 social workers, school nurse and headmaster, GP, OT,DS from policy, Community nurse from CAMHS, County solicitor and Old Uncle Tom Cobbly and all.

 

No bruising just a mark which was probaly his birth mark. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And What is more annyoing is i have £729.00 of local authority money sitting in an account to pay for respite care during holidays !!!!!! but cannot use it to fund help in mornings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I wouldn't believe everything you read, most of it is propaganda to get public on side with government agenda eg making out there's billions lost in disabled fraud, allowed them to employ ATOS & find even severely disabled or dying people fit to work.

 

Have you even been to citizens advice Bureau? The problem is that social workers who deal with children are there for the child & not you. They will be looking to criticize you & show how if you'd been left to cope- you wouldn't. Even admitting you need help- is sadly twisted by them. They love to make people look inadequate & in need of their help. If they just give you the advice it deprives them of dragging your case out. Instead they love having formal drawn out meetings/plans. Then having all actions & needs formally acknowledged. Sometimes you also have to be referred to a service by a professional, who will only do so if ordered to at such meetings. This makes my blood boil.

[greensaab]

Dear All, you will be pleased to know that here Is a God !! and that good sense does prevail even in this wack world .

 

The request for a children protection order was turned down by all agencies involved. Even Social Services had to back off.

 

The chair was amazing, seemed like a stuffy old Guy but he knew what he was about. Went on attack to social workers immediately critisises length and appropriateness of report.

 

Was very supportive as far as to wink at me, when i pulled social worker up on an issue.

 

School were excellent. Doctors report basically said minor injury consistent with what said but no proof. Also very scathing of lack of support provided to us.

 

Camhs team wounderful. In fact all but social worker but they had to back off.

 

Chair frurious that my employer had been informed before this meeting and that a multiagency meeting had already taken place before needed. Hasadvisedme to take this further.

 

in all a satisfactory outcome. can go back to my life now

[Nystagmite]

Oh, that's good to hear.

[Conniff]

Congratulations. It would seem that social services have shown themselves to be lacking, once again, in common sense. Why don't they take notes, then have a chin wag about these things and come to a decision of what to do. If they aren't sure, then send around another visitor to see for themselves.

 

In one way I feel sorry for them as they get booted for too much action and booted for not enough, but they seem to have kneejerk reactions to adverse press stories.

 

It would seem there is a lack of training and coordination somewhere along the line.

[greensaab]

My thoughts exactly. The problem with my Social worker was that she had no humour, No Humanity and no ability to deal with a Disabled child and family.

 

She did not seem to have the ability to say Ok there might be a child recieving a bruise but what was the context. a family ,a mother who had reached crisis and instead of attacking me, She could have come put her arms around me said. look this wasnt right but you need help and that is what I'm here for and this is what we are going to do.

 

Instead i was traeted like a child murderer. My health has suffered, my Job possibly too. And also if i am honest the relationship with my son as ever time I do anything say anything to him. I freeze and think should i be doing this or will someone say this is not OK !!!!

 

However if my Social worker had been asigned to baby P or that little Hamazah. They would still probaly be still alive because despite all her faults and behaviour towards me and her lack of understanding to my situation. I have to commend her in her throughness, tenacity and can only describe her as a " terrier" one attached she wont let go.

 

Maybe she is not right for disabled children but for another child like baby p, hamazah and others she would be a god send.