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Hi

 

Exactly the same problems.

 

Cash4phones claim they have already recycled my phones due to me not responding within the 5 day period.

 

I constantly rang - they do not answer the phone, and emailed - they do not respond.

 

I have since send recorded delivery letters and they have responded, offering more money but still not paying.

 

I would like to take this further through the moneyclaims.gov.uk and have read speck1965 link.

 

Does anyone know how long court action takes?

 

The fact I accepted a lower offer (not the original low) if they paid within a time period,

does this affect me claiming for the full amount they initially said they would send?

 

Would appreciate any advice.

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I am having the same problem as many others with cash4phones.

 

Same story, offering lower saying phones were scratched etc.

 

I have sent 2 recorded delivery letters, the first one with photographic evidence of my phones

and the second one stating I wanted to resolve the matter.

 

I finally received a call from a member of staff who doubled the lower offer and said it would be paid into my bank account within 48 hours.

 

As I wanted the matter resolved I accepted this.

 

However, 10 days later and several more emails to them I have now decided to start legal proceedings.

 

I have registered on the MCOL but it only give 1000 characters.

 

I'm worried I can't put all the details down that I want even though it's saying "a brief statement".

 

Can you advise what to put?

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All you need do for the initial MCOL submission is to put an outline of your claim and then send a fully particularised claim to the defendant and the court afterwards.

 

However, I think if you have accepted their offer then you might have problems with your claim. I will try and find some help for you.

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I have never accepted the offer on their site but told the member of staff in the telephone call if payment was received immediately, to put an end to the matter I would accept. As they are still refusing to pay or answer emails I have no option but to take it further. Do you think I'm wasting my time?

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Have you received payment at all?

 

No nothing. As before not answering emails or Phone. Even got a personal email address which had a response first time. Not replying now.

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Okay well if you have accepted and they havent paid i would push forward with the claim... I think its best :)

Be creative on this one... Explain in basic why you are claiming then go into more detail when you need to :)

 

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Righto, you say you haven't received any money so a lot of the following is probably irrelevant.

 

But what you need to do is to send a Letter Before Action advising that on consideration you are not going to accept their offer and advise what you do want in order to resolve this. Give them 10-14 days to comply or you will be issuing a claim.

 

HTH

 

If shes accepted their offer and the cash is imminent then its poor form to then issue legal proceedings.

 

She should (if the money is paid in) refund it and also attach a LBA explaining that on consideration she has decided not to accept their offer and state what she initially requires for satisfaction.

 

 

Bear in mind this would be SCT and the costs of instigatiing should be included within the LBA.

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I've already sent 2 letters recorded and this is why I had the phone call. Had a personal email address which I have since emailed stating I will continue to take action further. They've had plenty of notice.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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:lol::lol:Great News!

 

I have finally received all my money in full including costs!

 

Didn't want C4P following any threads so didn't post.

 

Sent the phones off in July expecting £163.

Got offered £55.

No answering of telephones, no response to recorded delivery letters and then

 

finally received a call from Piers in August offering £100.

 

I was so sick of the company I accepted, providing it was paid within 48 hours which he confirmed it would.

No payment, no replies to emails or calls so

 

took action through Money Claims Online claiming for postage, phone calls and £25 court costs.

Received £100 immediately at the beginning of September

but it was too late so proceeded to get the rest of the money.

 

I finally completed the paperwork requesting for it to go to mediation through a phonecall to save on costs.

 

Frank from C4P rang me last week asking what I wanted and

 

I told him I wanted costs covering and would continue with court action until I got them

and he said he would sort payment out.

 

I'm actually still waiting for the next action with the courts and checked my bank account and hey presto,

there's my money paid - another £98.

 

Result! DO NOT GIVE UP ON THIS COMPANY.

 

They need closing down but unless people are willing to take action,

 

they will continue to rip people off.

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hey great news

 

thread title updated

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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This is very good news - well done.

 

Please could you let us have details of any addresses or names etc.

Who is Frank and who is Piers?

Once we can identify these individuals we can provide further information to Trading Standards and also to the police.

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Also there seems to be someone called Sharon.

 

Surely someone who reads these pages must have an idea who these people are and where they can be found.

 

Please help.

 

Too many hard-up people are losing their money to these people.

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Piers Crowley is someone that rang me originally and was reluctant to give me any details about himself but did eventually give me his email address.

 

Someone called Frank rang and asked how much money I wanted so I said the full amount.

 

This was when I'd already accepted it to go to mediation.

 

He said he would speak to the finance department and get it sorted straight away and he did! Surprise!

 

i had to tell him I was happy to take it to court so they still queried it until the end.

 

Glad I stuck to my guns!

 

The name on the court papers was SAVVAS KOUMOURIS - DIRECTOR

C4P Trading Ltd,

Unit 15,

Gateway Mews

N11 2UT.

 

Hope this helps.

I've already gone through Citizens Advice Bureau and reported it to the Trading Standards.

 

 

This is very good news - well done.

 

Please could you let us have details of any addresses or names etc.

Who is Frank and who is Piers?

Once we can identify these individuals we can provide further information to Trading Standards and also to the police.

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This is an interesting link especially when you look at the 'Country of Residence': http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/8391402/savvas-koumouris

 

 

Also this link is interesting look at the different appointments: http://www.dellam.com/06300042-C4P%20TRADING%20LIMITED

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That answers a lot. He is being benevolent and funneling the cash to assist the Greek debt crisis. :|

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