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    • firstly , they are not a Debt collector [never confuse the two - a DCA chasing consumer credit debt is totally powerless and have ZERO legal powers to do or take anything - they have no more legal powers than you or I do ] these will be bailiffs and do they have legal powers.   However, the good bit is that unlike what you might have seen on TV, for a council CTAX liability order [please confirm there is or NOT a CCJ registered check your creit file] there is NO right of forced entry. The bottom line is, bar all the arm waving, is, that if you simply totally ignore them, they will eventually go away.   Now what they can do is two fold on CTAX. basically add fees to a set limit.   the first is a notice of enforcement letter. this comes with a fee of £75 and gives you 7 days to set up some sort of payment plan.   the second is an actual visit, where by a further fee of £235, whereby the fees are now £310 , the maximum they can ever add to the CTAX bill. this is typically accompanied by a threat to removed goods, it's cleverly worded or 'explained' to make you 'think' they can waltz in any take anything they like. THEY CANNOT unless YOU let them in. which you don't, nor leave doors unlocked as they can then enter through what is called 'peaceful entry'.   in real term, the seizure of goods is limited to stuff outside like cars YOU might own that are not behind locked gates.   so i'm not too sure what stage you are at  so please clarify. the name of the bailiff company. how much you now owe the county council the CTAX is owed too.   if you have any/all paperwork please scan it to PDF  after redaction - read our upload guide]   one last point. they don't keep coming around they don't keep ringing. neither of those gander them anymore money so they don't bother.   dx      
    • Hi Everybody I moved into my parents house quite recently. My mam is aged and extremely ill (it's just me and her living in the house) and I moved from the North to the South of England to take care of her.   Now I've got a CCJ against me for unpaid Council tax from when I was living in the North and a debt collector has just showed up at the door. Now I don't have the money to pay the entire amount straight away. But I'm willing to try and enter in some kind of payment plan and gradually pay down the debt. However my main concern is that they don't keep coming around and phoning the house threatening and harassing my mam over her sons debt.   However the guy at the door was threatening to seize goods and have them sold at public auction. Getting bailiffs to break in etc.   When I told him that I've nothing of any real value he said he could just take whatever was in the house. Something about if she couldn't prove whatever was hers then they could just take whatever (I'm not 100% this but I think something to this affect).   He left me a "Notification of Enforcement agent visit" sheet of paper.   From the first paragraph it says:   "As an enforcement agent I've attended your premises today with the intention of taking control of your goods in accordance with the taking control of goods (fees) regulations 2014. At this time your goods are bound. You cannot remove, sell or otherwise dispose of them"   Thus I'd appreciate any advice that readers my be able to offer. Does anyone know the law regarding "seizing assets" when the debtor is not the homeowner/tenant?   tia Bear
    • I should add I only got the CCA response last week after waiting nearly a month over the prescribed time limits to respond. PM
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HELP

 

I have received a hand delivered letter in my letter box today from BAILIFFS

 

It is addressed to my son who hasn't lived here since he was 17.

 

I dont normally open any of his post and just bin it however this letter was not totally in its envelope.

 

I have been estranged from him since he was this age as he was in considerable trouble with the police

 

Now I have notice that these people are to return to my address to remove goods

 

Help what can I do

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They could only remove his goods, not yours.

 

Does he have any goods at your home?

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No he has nothing here !

 

But how do I stop them calling I have visions of them knocking my door down

 

I am disabled and to add to that I have just had major surgery on my leg so therefore cannot walk - and I'm not too fast on these crutches it would take me 10 minutes to get to the door in this time they could gain entry before I even had a chance of getting there

 

I am so worried about this

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whats the debt all about?

 

p'haps better to contact who sent the bailiffs around

 

was it the court?

 

is this a magistrates fine?

 

more info please

 

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Don't worry - they won't break any doors down.

 

You owe them nothing, you are not the debtor and they aren't after you. What you need to do is tell them that your son does not live there, and hasn't for several years, and that he has no property there at all. They will probably want to see proof, in which case, Council Tax bill for the current year (and if possible lastyear too) will prove who lives there.

 

Start by phoning them and just tell them the situation.

 

Do you know where your son lives? They may press you to tell them, but of course you don't have to. They can't take your property and they can't force their way in.

 

How did they get your address, by the way? It suggests the car is registered at your address - if so, you need to also get in touch with DVLA and get them to amend their records. Do you know if this is the case?

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Its for a parking fine

 

says unpaid penalty charge

 

For which Council & do you live in the same Council area?


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london borough - no I do not live in the same borough

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I have no idea how they got my address maybe my son did register it here

 

Any post I get for him goes straight in the bin I have had enough of the childs antics over the years

 

Will contact DVLA now - 2 years council tax bill :/ I'll have to hobble around to try and find one

 

Shall I phone to speak to them or email them?

 

You sure they cannot force entry this notice says they have a warrent of execution

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Phone - much quicker. Check whether DVLA have your address - if so, tell them you want it removed and they will tell you what to do - to avoid this sort of thing happening again.

 

If the bailiff did not get your address from them, then don't worry - but do speak to them as I suggested above. Phone them and tell them the situation.

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I emailed them as out of hours

 

But I will call them tomorrow and let you know how things go

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If there is penalty charge for parking then it is CLEAR that you son still has a vehicle registered at your address. I would assume that you wold also receive yearly road fund licence reminders from DVLA each year as well.

 

Which bailiff company has written to you?

 

PS: The warrant is addressed to your son. It allows bailiffs to seize goods belonging to HIM and not you. I would suggest that you do not open the door to any bailiff and they do NOT have the right to force their way into your home.

 

Jamberson has provided good advice above. Please post back with details of the bailiff firm.

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Collect Service Limited

 

says called today with a view to levying distress (certainly did that)

 

No letters from DVLA has come for my son that I can remember ?

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Collect Service Limited

 

says called today with a view to levying distress (certainly did that)

 

No letters from DVLA has come for my son that I can remember ?

 

See if you can phone the bailiff (record the call if you can) to tell them that your Son has not lived with you since he was 17 and there is nothing at the address that belongs to him. Advise them that you will obtain a statutory declaration to this effect if need be. See what they say and post back.


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Sent them an email with 2 years council tax bill

 

Noting to them that they have not acknowledged the 2 email notices I have sent them and have requested confirmation of receipt by return

 

don't think can record any calls but will look for a way on my phone ???

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Well that's great !

 

My emails failed ???

 

Haven't got a clue how I am going to get notice to them can't walk can't leave the house errrrr

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Phone the bailiffs on Monday morning to advise them of the situation. If you know which council they are chasing the parking fine for, you could contact them if the bailiffs don't listen.

 

If you have an Ipod or phone with a recording device, you could use that by placing the microphone near to the speaker part, so it picks up what they are saying, as well as what you are saying.


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I googled an alternate email address as the address on paperwork is not receiving mail and have noted that entry to my property will now be classed as harrassment as you may be able to tell I have had enough of this now

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Tried phoning council to get yet another automated line - left the requested message for them to call me back that was on Thursday to no response

 

Think I'm going to stick a note to my front door as no way I'm getting up hobbling to the door to speak to these bully boys

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Just received automate response saying basically they are in interested deal with doorstep agent

 

****** choice words *********

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Can anyone tell me :/

 

This letter says they have a warrant of execution in their possession ?

 

Does that make things different ?

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no your son does not live with you.

 

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You need to contact Collect services with a copy sent to the council that issued the PCN.

 

You need to tell them that 1, your son has no connection to your address since he was 17 and you have no idea of his whereabouts. 2 you need to make it clear that you are vulnerable due to your disability so they SHOULD not even make a visit.

 

They can do nothing. They cannot break in, even with a warrant.

It maybe that they have traced your son to his last known address, which happens to be your's. I would be inclined to call the bailiff company (not bailiff) and let them know. This should stop any further bailiff visits.

 

If it dosnt then you would need to write a formal complaint to the CEO of the issuing council and get them to investigate Collect services and get them to stop hassling you.

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I'm flaffing about this just incase one of the children open the door (which I have never allowed) but you know sods law -

 

I'll try and find cell's email address in the morning thanks people !

 

I'll let you know

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