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    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
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    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
    • Any update here?  I ask as we have someone new being hassled for parking at this site.
    • Any update here?  I ask as we have someone new being hassled for parking at this site.
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Hi all, I have recently had a great time in the lake district, now about a fortnight later I have had a parking charge from parking eye

for a car park in Hawkshead. Through the holiday we used many car parks including the one in Hawkshead twice.

So of course we had a ticket for every car park visited. surly they should provide a photograph of my car with no ticket.

Of course I didn't keep the ticket, I have been driving for forty odd years and have never ever kept tickets.

Comments/advise please.

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You do not have to pay this or worry about paying it. Read up on ParkingEye Ltd on this and other forums.I believe you will have to contact ParkingEye but others will add more info tomorrow. Hawkshead are not happy either.... http://www.hawkshead-village.co.uk/ Check the news bit.

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Thanks for your reply and your link to Hawkshead. Incidentally I have just noticed what the last paragraph states on the invoice, it says " We would like to remind you that,if you were the driver at the time of the parking event you are required to pay or appeal the parking charge"

See, if you were the driver. Well there is one answer to that.

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shezza2, I would suggest writing to them with a copy to the Hawkshead local paper telling them that refuse to pay their parking charge as they have obvoiusly claimed that your 2 visits are 1 and demand proof of overstay or admit fraud by PE. Compalin bitterly that this has been a problem with Parking eye in many places and refer to the McDonald's case on Watchdog. Hopefuly that will result in a cancellation but if you get a rejection of this accusation of fraud by "double dipping" then take the matter to POPLA, which will cost PE money and time to find all of the relevant images so they will probably drop it,knowing they are in the wrong but never admitting as much (if they admitted their ANPR system was faulty they would be hammered in court).

karengreen, no you do not ignore a court summons, reply to it saying you intend to defend the claim in its entirety and that a full defence will be sent within the prescribed time. Then come back here with the exact wording of the Particulars of Claim so we can tell you what you need to say to defend the claim. Doing nothing will result in PE winning and you being legally chased for a debt that you dont actually owe.

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Hi all I have noticed that on the bottom of the parking note sent by parking eye it say's " If you were the driver at the time of the event you must pay the charge now or appeal" Now to me that means, if you WERE the driver? also it means pay up now OR appeal. What do you think.

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Driver or Registered Keeper, don't pay!

 

But don't ignore it. (Neither admit to being the Driver when they contact the RK.)

 

Read the Stickys and the box when you put your mouse on parking eye, and take it from there.

 

 

Come back for specific help as the matter progresses

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Hi all Further to my earlier threads regarding me having a ticket and Parking Eye still wanting £100 this was my response....

 

"Please supply a photograph of car windscreen showing lack of parking ticket or over stay of time"

 

I also added......"May I draw your attention to the last paragraph on your parking charge reminder"

 

It states " We would like to remind you that,if you were the driver at the time of the parking event you are required to pay or appeal the parking charge"

 

I would also add that I was not the driver.

 

Outcome = Parking charge dropped..........Yay.

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Outcome = Parking charge dropped..........Yay.

 

Great.

 

I understand your elation (and why not?) but don't be grateful.

 

How many just pay up, encouraging them to try the same elsewhere, as often as possible?

 

These Sсammers should not have put you in that position in the first place.

They tried it on to get your money, but like most bullies, withdrew at the hint of a contest.

 

Others, please note - and be grateful to Shezza for showing it is possible.

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Have you heard about Parking Eye's latest money making scheme? When they are told to drop a court case by the likes of Aldi or another supermarket, they are saying that they will only drop the case if the motorist pays them £50 to cover the "expense" of preparing the court papers. If they don't receive that money then they say they will press on with the court case. I have spoken to Aldi about this and they are saying they agree with PE about this . So it looks as though PE are in charge here, and not the supermarket.

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If they press ahead after Aldi have told them to drop a case then regardless of anything else, i.e if, in the extremely unlikely event that Parking Eye do have a contract with the landowner, then permission to pursue that ticket is withdrawn.

 

Aldi can't have it both ways. Again it would be a cost to Parking Eye's business as they and they alone decided to issue a frivolous claim.

Dont let the parasite dca's prosper

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