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Evening all.

 

Here's a brief summary of the situation.

 

On January 29th 2013 my friend got caught shoplifting some batteries and a sandwich from Wilkinsons. They had never done anything like this before and had never been in trouble with the police. The police were called by security, and my friend was offered Restorative Justice, which they accepted, and were not charged and told they would not have a police record. They were also banned from the store for 12 months. There was no mention of RLP at this point, in fact my friend has since told me they had never heard of them?

 

Then they received the following letter:

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45013[/ATTACH]

 

The first thing they did was Google RLP, found this website, and after reading many threads decided to follow the general advice and ignore it.

 

Then, a month later, a second letter arrived:

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45014[/ATTACH]

 

Again, they ignored it.

 

(They had received a third letter, which unfortunately has been lost.)

 

Then, today, a fourth letter arrived:

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45012[/ATTACH]

 

So now my friend has asked me to post a thread on here, as a diary of events if not anything else, and hopefully someone can put their mind at rest?

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RLp will threaten everything, including holding your cat to ransom. Ignore them. Jackie loves to send letter after letter with ever increasing threats. She even says in one that CAG is under police investigation.... Yea, she wishes CAG was.

 

That alone should tell you that this woman has serious mental issues that she needs to get help with.


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Nothing in the letters that hasn't been seen before.

 

How interesting that Jackie seeks to make you feel grateful that the amount being claimed is only a fraction of the 'real' cost of the incident,

yet nowhere does she actually quantify the speculative figures given,

nor does she acknowledge that the lion's share of whatever is recovered goes directly into RLP's coffers and her own pocket.

 

Also interesting that on the last occasion that one of their clients was daft enough to go through with a properly contested court case,

RLP and their client were royally spanked on the issue of claiming amounts which bore no relevance whatsoever to the actual cost of the incident

- which is precisely what they have to do at the first hurdle in order to succeed in any claim.

 

The Oxford case will surely have made any client of RLP extremely wary of litigation and the likely loss of reputation and the further destruction of this particular business model,

backed as it is by fear and threats of spurious legal action.

 

Two options.

Continue to ignore,

 

or send a simple denial of any liability to RLP or their client.

 

No frills, just let them know that you have no intention of paying.

 

The net result will be the same regardless

- more letters, and almost certainly a scary red inked note from their retained debt collector, trying to intimidate you into paying a 'debt' which does not exist.


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There might be some slight advantage to have previously sent the one-line denial of liability to RLP when they refer their "claim" to a DCA

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If the letters were printed on softer, quilted paper they might have a purpose.


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Like it. RLP toilet paper. Supplied with the sh*t slready on it!


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My friends received a 5th letter recently and sent me the attached scan. Should they be getting worried yet? :???:

 

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My friends received a 5th letter recently and sent me the attached scan. Should they be getting worried yet? :???:

 

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Is that the one where Jackie states not to believe cag.


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It's ok. Just had a quick skim and it's laughable at best. It's just what people thought. She thinks she is the law. I mean come on.. "In the absence of settlement, or defence"? A defence against what? Her stupidity and ego?

 

Good to see she's still hiding behind a PO box and a premium number too.


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I like the 'You Are Required...' bit.

 

Required by whom? I suppose that this means that RLP require you to let them know whether it is worth wasting a tenner or so in getting Snotcall to write to you in the hope that the words Debt and Collector fill you with sufficient shame to part with money for Jackie's holiday fund.

 

All the letter is saying is that they will get a scary debt collector to write to you - maybe even in red ink - to make the same demand that you have already declined to pay. The 'undisputed' bit is a vain attempt to legitimise the fact that any DCA chasing a debt which is disputed or in this case, where no such debt exists other than in RLP's warped mind, is operating in breach of their licence.


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Evening all,

 

Received another letter from my friend today. This time it's from BPO Collections, giving them 7 days to pay the £89.50 "outstanding liability".

 

It's quite surreal; even though they know they don't have to pay these people, it still makes them feel uneasy receiving a letter from a "collections" company. :!:

 

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Tell them simply that any liability is denied, there is no debt and a formal complaint is being sent to the OFT about them chasing a non existant debt. They are very easily shooed away.


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A little later than usual this month, but my friend received another, longer letter recently. It seems RLP have read this thread and are slightly annoyed.

 

They also mention that my friend was offered Resorative Justice on the "basis of the civil action being satisfied". My friend is positive there was no mention of any civil action being taken by Wilkinson, not by the police or the security staff. In fact he assures me he was told by the police that would be the end of the matter. And he certainly hadn't heard of RLP or civil recovery before receiving a letter from them, so they must have been misinformed (or they are simply making it up?)

 

Anyhow, as always, if you have any comments on this latest letter please contribute to the thread.

 

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Aww. Poor jackies getting more desperate. Time to ignore her once and for all. Just remember, we have concrete proof that she will say ANYTHING to get people to pay up. And i mean absolutely ANYTHING.

 

The letters do make a good read though, and can make good substitute toilet paper.


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That is one of RLP's most absurd letters - so far. Still getting under someone's skin, are we? It must be be very annoying for one with such delusions of grandeur to always be the monkey to the retailer's organ grinder.

 

bobjimwilly, your friend can be reassured that nothing has changed; RLP still cannot bring a court action, and the retailer is most unlikely to. He can, of course, choose whether to believe the 'nonsense' on the internet (all of which has proved correct), or the nonsense in RLP's letters, which has been shown to be empty threats and bullying drivel.

 

The offer of restorative justice is in no way linked to RLP's 'civil action', and cannot be. Unless, perhaps, RLP have some sort of influence with the police, which would be entirely illegal and is likely to exist only in RLP's fevered and rather lurid imagination.

 

I see that RLP continue the pretence that they are involved in crime reduction; what utter nonsense. RLP is a commercial company whose only purpose is making profit. If RLP were genuinely involved in crime reduction, they would be bankrupt in no time if they were any good at it, since no crime equals no money for RLP. Far from the crime-busting agency it pretends to be, RLP is just a small company operating out of a grubby back street in Nottingham.

 

Incidentally, where someone chooses to seek advice is entirely a matter for them.

 

I remain convinced that these letters are much more about the personality of their author than they are about any imaginary claim for damages. I can read you like a book, and the book is DSM IV...

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That is a classic! Complete balls but nevertheless a classic.


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oh let us pray.......

 

the great god RLP has allowed in their infinite wisdom and power to allow a criminal matter to be resolved by Restorative Justice....

 

what the hell is restorative justice....

 

who is the great god that has decided that them fleecing someone for their own profit is justice....urm....

 

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what the hell is restorative justice....

 

 

http://www.restorativejustice.org.uk/what_is_restorative_justice/

 

No mention of paying money to a third party with no connection whatsoever to the criminal justice system. Sometimes restorative justice can involve returning something that was stolen, but it never includes paying a penalty or costs not imposed by a court.

 

As with a police caution, FPN or any other criminal action, the matter has been dealt with by the appropriate authority.

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“We also advise that our telephone lines are not premium lines. Further, we use a PO Box address in order to secure the health and safety of our staff. This is particularly important as we receive regular threats of violence and death, largely as a result of your “advisers” malicious campaign on the internet”.

 

Umm, surely this is libellous?

 

I see they are still suggesting they have some link to ACPO as well ??


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I wonder to whom they refer when they say..

 

"The fact that some people of limited intelligence or lacking knowledge do not seem to understand this"

 

Are they not obliged by Companies House to have a proper Registered address on their letter heads ?


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Just doing a check on RLP and their registered addy is in London

 

RETAIL LOSS PREVENTION LIMITED

UNIT/OFFICE 36

88-90 HATTON GARDEN

LONDON

UNITED KINGDOM

EC1N 8PN

 

However, if you do a google maps on the post code EC1 8PN it shows that 88-90 Hatton Gardens are a block of offices which look (to me) like serviced offices. Notably, the one name that is visible is Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd.

I can't see RLP needing a safe deposit box

 

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