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    • The 'test, test, test' call from WHO specifically applies to just ''suspected cases'' and those who recently had contact with confirmed cases. WHO isn't calling for speculative testing.   I assume Prof Tobyjug is referring to a PCR test but as testing the entire nation for anything is a fantasy it doesn't matter much.
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    • I don’t see some users posts, but since they’ve been quoted .........   I agree (in parts) with 2 contributors postings.   WHO says “test, test, test”, so more tests ARE key. That is part agreeing with one contributor.   I also agree with cjcregg. One has to understand the limitations of a test : (sensitivity, specificity and its positive and negative predictive values - which involves sensitivity / specificity AND prevalence!).   One also has to understand which test, to apply those limitations. a) RNA NAAT? (Commonly called PCR, though PCR is a tradename, so ‘PCR’ is to ‘NAAT’ like ‘Hoover’ is to ‘vacuum cleaner’) b) Antigen testing? c) Antibody testing? (If so, IgM? IgG? Both??)   Knowing which test(s), their limitations, and thus what the result actually MEANS is more important than a blanket statement of “test everyone!”, (and repeatedly ??! ) .... especially as it allows prioritisation of who gets what test to maximise benefit, until “testing for all” is more than a pipe-dream .....   Would you repeat a positive IgG test? If so, in what circumstances??
    • Just out of interest, how long did it take you to formulate this conclusion? I'm not looking for a particularly accurate answer, just round it up to the nearest nano second.    How is this going to work then?   Where are the medical personnel and laboratory staff required to undertake this massive project going to come from? Now this is just a stab in the dark but I'd imagine they'd be quite busy at the moment.   Even South Korea, who are recognised as having one of the most aggressive testing policies have only managed to test 1% of their population. You clearly have no conception as to the scale of what you're proposing.   Even if it was possible to plan, organise and execute it would take years to achieve, by which time all the data would have been redundant and completely meaningless. I was tested last week and it took 2 days for the result, which by the time I received it was already out of date as I was then and now just as likely to be infected as I was when I took the test.   Think about it.    
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hello!

The wife and I recieved a summons for this years c

.t of £280+£95 summons costs.

Last week I emailed the council to propose a payment arrangement,for the c.t owing,without the summons costs.

The council have emailed,rejecting the payment plan and then adding £25 court costs(the court date on the summons is for next weds)

phoned the council this morning,and set up a payment plan,for the full amount,the woman told me I dont need to go to court,but my case will still be heard,so my questions are..

should I still go to court,and try to get the council. summons charge removed?

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and try to get the council. summons charge removed?

 

On what basis ? - its it's simply because they wouldn't agree a payment arrangement then the council have not done anything illegal by refusing an arrangement and issuing the summons.

 

You can always ask that court not to grant costs but its very unlikely they won't based on the argument above.

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just seems alittle unfair,to add £95 then another £25 on top!

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just seems alittle unfair,to add £95 then another £25 on top!

 

It is unfair, and I would not be accepting such a rip off situation..

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If you don't mind going to the Magistrates' court and appearing in front of the bench, you could argue that the costs have not been reasonably incurred by the council.

 

The council's computer system will have auto-generated 100s if not 1,000s of summonses, consequently £120 will not have been incurred by the authority.

 

However, these are kangaroo courts and you're unlikely to get a fair hearing. The council will most likely have its costs awarded by the justices but you are entitled to make them earn their immoral earnings.

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would it be easier to pay up and chase the council later? but Im more than happy to go to court though!

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Here are some options;

 

1. Pay £280+£95 summons costs before next Wednesday's court hearing and save incurring £25. (Guaranteed saving of £25)

 

2. Pay £280+£95 summons costs before court hearing and save incurring £25, also dispute costs at court. (Guaranteed saving of £25 plus very remote possibility of reduced costs)

 

3. Make payment as arranged with council and incur £25 on top of £95. You could still exercise your right to appear before Magistrates to dispute costs. (very remote possibility of reduced costs)

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