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Hi all, new user here, hope someone can help?

 

I've recently received a county court judgement summons from northampton county court bulk centre on mon 20/5/2013,

 

they are claiming that i owe them £3K! for "water charges and any such other charges relating to such at my address"

for period to 31/3/2014!

(didn't think you could charge for a service that you hadn't provided).

 

The problem being that i've not had any bills or correspondence from them for years!

apart from the generic leaflet through the door informing me that they were conducting work in the road

(which resulted in them damaging my driveway even though they didn't have permision to be on the property!).

 

Surely in order to pay a bill you have to first receive one?

 

I'm unemployed at the moment and have been for some time, i'm also recovering from two severe nervous breakdowns,

i'm under the outpatient care of the local nhs psychology department, and am on prolonged medication for severe depression,

 

I'm also undergoing tests for a particular form of cancer at the moment.

 

I will not be "bullied" by these people, but i'm at my wits end and fearful of a depressive relapse episode.

 

Can anybody help?

 

Many thanks and much appreciated.

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so how did you get tied up with UU, ?

 

were you with them when you moved in

or were you spoofed into signing up with them?

 

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I took this house over when my mother died (they continued to chase her for years after her death - despite being told!). I don't think there's another provider around here?

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Thats a good point, maybe i should just ask them to produce the contract agreement that i DIDN'T sign and have never seen?

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Can you please let us know exactly what it says on the claim form.. why they have issued the claim.

 

Can you please also let us know what is the issue date of the claim.. you will find this in the top right hand corner of the claim form.

 

Once you have given us this information, we can then advise further.

 

We can also provide you with a draft CPR request in order to obtain any information that you might need in order to help you defend this.


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Hi all,

 

The date of the summons issue is 14th may 2013, from the county court bulk centre northampton.

 

the particulars of the claim are as follows: £2849.08 is due from the defendant to the claimant for water service charges and any other charges incurred relating to such, at : my address. for period to 31/03/2014, full particulars of which have been supplied to the defendant. it then has a printed name of united utilities "head of legal"

 

no signature. I also note that it comes from a "county court bulk centre" with a county court stamp, i didn't think this was legal as the document is not from an actual court, and has not actual signature on it - anywhere? I also believe that i'm entitled to see the oath of office that any "judge" who issues this claim - as there is no name of any judge or advocate this cannot be a legal document and as such fraudulent? I think it might be called a "point of law?".

 

No "particulars" have been supplied to me whatsoever. Nor have i signed any contract or agreement or in fact any document at all relating to united utilities whatsoever, this again surely cannot be legal?

 

Also can i counter claim for trespass on the property, damage to the driveway, storage of the offending item which damaged my vehicle, as well as time and charges related to defending this frivolous claim, could i also report them to the police for attempting to obtain money by deception or menaces (threatening to sue me), surely this must also constitute fraud?

 

Hope i didn't give you too much, i'm just trying to explore as many avenues as possible.

 

Many thanks, and much appreciated.

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All claims are now issued from the Bulk Centre and Northampton.

 

Ok, your time line is as follows :

 

Issue date 14th May + 5 days for service = 19th May + 14 days to acknowledge = 2nd June + 14 days to submit defence/counterclaim = 16th June. So you do have a little time in hand.

 

You can acknowledge the claim online using the password that is in the Particulars of claim. You need to do that BEFORE the 2nd June.

 

Meanwhile if you say they have provided no information to you, you need to set about obtaining it. You can do that via CPR31.14 and CPR part 18.

 

Just give me a couple of minutes and I will go and find some drafts and pop them up for you.


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The letter below needs to be sent to the Solicitor named on the Particulars of Claim.

 

 

Dear Sir,

 

Re: (Claimant's name) v (Your name) Case No:

CPR 31.14 Request

 

On (date) I received the Claim Form in this case issued by you out of the (Name) county courtlink3.gif.

 

I confirm having returned my acknowledgement of service to the court in which I indicate my intention to contest all of your claim.

 

[Prior to the issue of proceedings I had delivered a request for the production of the agreement mentioned in the Claim Form and on which you rely. That request was ignored] [delete if no such request was delivered]

 

Please treat this letter as my request made under CPR 31.14 for the disclosure and the production of a verified and legible copy of [each of the following / the] document(s) mentioned in your Particulars of Claim:

 

1 : the agreement. You will appreciate that in an ordinary case and by reason of the provisions of CPR PD 16 para 7.3, where a claim is based upon a written agreement, a copy of the contract or documents constituting the agreement should be attached to or served with the particulars of claim and the original(s) should be available at the hearing. Further, that any general conditions incorporated in the contract should also be attached.

 

2 : Statement of account showing how the amount claim has accrued

 

 

 

Although your claim is for a sum which is not more than £10,000.00 and will in all likelihood be allocated to the small claims track for determination upon my delivering a defence, at this moment in time I have not delivered my defence and the case has not been allocated to a track. In consequence the provisions of CPR 27(2) are of no effect and you should not seek to avoid compliance with your CPR 31 duties by claiming otherwise

 

 

You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the document(s) I have requested are copied to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter. Your CPR 31 duties extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for the originals of the documents I have requested, the better for you to be able to verify the document's authenticity and to provide me with a legible copy. Further, where I have requested a copy of a document, the original of which is now in the possession of another person, you will have a right to possession of that document if you have mentioned it in your case. You must take immediate steps to recover and preserve it for the purpose of this case.

 

Where I have mentioned a document and there is in your possession more than one version of that same document owing to a modification, obliteration or other marking or feature, each version will be a separate document and you must provide a copy of each version of it to me. Your obligations extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for any version(s) to include an obligation to recover and preserve such version(s) which are now in the possession of a third party.

 

In accordance with CPR 31.15© I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request.

 

If you require more time in which to comply with this request you must tell me in writing. You must tell me before the time for compliance with this request has expired. In telling me you require more time you must tell me what steps you have taken and propose to take in order to comply with this request and also state a date by when you will comply with this request. In addition your statement must be accompanied with a statement that you agree to an extension of the time for me to file my defence. Your extension of time must be not less than 14 days from the date when you say you will have complied with my request and you must state the new date for filing my defence.

 

If you are unable to comply with this request and believe that you will never be able to comply with this request you must tell me in writing.

 

Please note that if you should fail to comply with this request, fail to request more time or fail to agree to an extension of time for the filing of my defence, I will make an application to the court for an order that the proceedings be struck out or stayed for non-compliance and a summary costs order.

 

I do hope this will not be necessary and look forward to hearing from you.

 

yours faithfully

 

 

Please read the letter very carefully as there are one or two places that you need to insert dates, claim number and one section that you will need to delete if you have never communicated with them.

 

The letter needs to be sent via Recorded delivery at the very least.


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Hi all, i sent the above request form off by recorded tracked and timed delivery, i also notified the court concerned.

 

It received a letter from UU which is as follows: claim no customer no etc.

 

Dear me,

Thank you for your letter dated 03/06/13 in regards to the above county court claim,

and confirming your intent to defend the entire amount claimed.

 

As the clain was issued from northampton county court on 14/05/13 and you had 14 days to respond with your intent

i am unable to help you further regarding this matter.

 

You will be required to contact northampton county court on 08454085302 to discuss your options directly with the court.

 

If you would like anymore help, or information, please contact us on 08457461133.

 

Our office is open between 8AM and 6PM monday to friday and 9AM to 12PM on saturday.

 

We will be happy to help you.

 

Yours sincerely etc etc.

 

What do i do now guys? Many thanks and much appreciated.

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P.s. There letter came vía normal mail and was not recorded or signed for.

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Any update on this? I am trying to fight UU CCJ myself so I am looking for help.


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