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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Hi,

 

Today I received a letter which says it is from merseyside magisrates court reminding me to pay fine of £108.75.

 

However this is first I heard of it - I have had no correspondence about it at all.

 

I tried to call the number on letter and they are closed.

 

It doesnt say what fine is for. I do drive so maybe speeding buti have not been stopped by police.

 

It says if I dont pay they can order bailiffs or arrest me.

 

There are a few discepancies though. For example it says merseyside magistratescourt yet address is in cheshire. The letter is not signed and it is from "designated officer". I also looked up merseyside courtand their phone number is not the one on the letter. I wondered if it is a [problem]?

 

It says to pay on http://www.gov.uk/pay-court-fine-online or call 0300 790 9901.

 

 

Does anyone have any idea if this is legit or not?

 

Also what can I say. When I phone tomorrow?

 

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The letter is legit and the Court you allude to is part of Runcorn Magistrates Court, by contacting them you should be able to establish what actual Court it was heard at, I wonder if it may be a DVLA for failure to do something as there do appear to be a lot of these going the rounds. If/When you get hold of them ask for the exact address the offence was committed at. If you genuinely have no knowledge you should be able to make a Statutory Declaration.

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Hi,Thanks for the replies so far. I have just called the court. The woman on the phone could only give very vague information but it seems it's for not having vehicle license in 2005? I presume that means road tax? That was 8 years ago. I have no memory of this at all. Should I fax them stating that I have not received any documentation regarding this alleged offence and asking them to send me details of exactly what the alleged offence is? Will they put proceedings on hold if I ask this? I know I have a 14 day deadline to pay so I don't want bailiffs to turn up while they are sending me some documentation.

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Hi I was thinking of sending this letter via fax and recorded delivery.Can anyone advise if this is the best thing to do?I honestly knew NOTHING about this until yesterday.Name, address, account number etcDivision 10517th May 2013Dear Sir or Madam,Yesterday I received a letter from Merseyside Magistrates Court which was a reminder of an unpaid fine of £108.75. I telephoned the court and was given very vague details about it relating to me allegedly not having a vehicle license in 2005. I have no recollection of this alleged offence and I have not received any correspondence regarding this prior to the reminder letter on 16th May 2013.I would request the court to send me some more information about this alleged offence and if I have committed it I will of course be willing to pay the fine. However as I have no memory of this I am concerned I could be the victim of somebody giving false details to the police or identity theft. Hence I request some more information to enable me to confirm if I have actually commited an offence and also to be able to put in a defence if appropriate.In the meantime could I request that the court delays pursuing the matter further with bailiffs or forcing me to attend court.

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Did you ask if you could submit a Statutory Declaration as you knew nothing of this. The danger is that the time is fast approaching - possibly today - where they may automatically just send it to the Bailiffs. If there is going to be an issue of getting things sorted it may be better to pay first and argue aftrewards. - definitely cheaper than having a Bailiff attend which may add an extra £300.

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Hi Ploddertom.I have googled statutory declaration and it says you need to get it signed by a solicitor or JP? If assume i will be charged for that. If so as you say I might be better off just paying the fine rather than start paying solicitors. The letter is dated 13th May and it gives me 14 days so I have until 27th May I assume.I think it's outrageous they are pursuing me for something I allegedly didn't do in 2005. How can I possibly defend this? I don't keep documents going back more than 5 years. I know though I am not the sort of person who would ignore a letter off police or courts so I know I can't have received any paperwork. Only thing I can think of is my grandfatther was terminally ill in 2005 and I moved in with him in his last few months to look after him. I was a bit of a wreck at the time so perhaps missed a letter or something due to not being at home.And to send bailiffs round after just one letter is disgusting.

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If you are near the original Court this can be done there, if you moved and are miles away then arrangements can be made to use a Court local to you - as far as I am aware there is then no charge for doing this. What has happened to you seems typical of the DVLA as it seems they are all trawling old unpaid fines to see what they can rake up. Have you had a read of this thread as the advice may be similar to what you need:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?391444-urgent-help-needed-over-bailiff-please

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Thanks Ploddertom.Are they allowed to ask for money from 8 years ago? I thought that debts were statute barred after 6 years? I am guesing there is some sort of exemption for govt fines? I read the other thread you linked and it seems that poor guy's only option is to pay the fine anyway but he has to also deal with bailiffs. I am wondereing if I should just (reluctantly) pay it to save myself a load of stress in a month or two?I mean, say they come back to me confirming I had no road tax at some point in 2005 and I have a fine to pay realistically is there anything I can do to defend myself? I haven't got any documents going back that far so I can't produce any proof they are wrong.Surely there should be a limit on how far back they can go? Will I get a letter next week for speeding in 2002? Very very harsh!

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There is no Statute of Limitations on what are perceived to be criminal fines. However it is simply not good enough in my view to just say you owe it without providing more proof. There may be a chance this could be for a vehicle that you have previously disposed of and the new owner may be the one that has not taxed it.

 

I think that given the dates you have you have another week in which to find out more about this. Or as you say just pay up and it is done with - the choice has to be yours.

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Thanks for all the help with this. In the end I just paid it. I remembered that at that time my grandfather was terminally ill and i had moved in to look after him. I did end up a bit of a wreck at the time and as I wasn't at home I might have missed a letter off the DVLA. I thought rather than add to my stress fighting it when I think back I think chances are I did forget my tax for a month or so I would just pay. So I have and hopefully I will never hear from them again now!

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Well that is one way to possibly stop the bailiffs in their tracks. However now you have paid, you could now begin to enquire what you were charged for and what the dates involved were. Otherwise you

could get another claim and you will have no way of knowing if it was for the same offence or a different one. Should it then transpire that the charge against you was unmerited, you could reclaim it.

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lookinforinfo - that's a good point. i think I need to do that. I am annoyed about it as I think it's a cynical attempt to get extra money. I understand the need to fine people for not complying with the law. But to hit me with something from 8 years ago when I was going through a difficult time when since then I have always been really good about tax, insurance mot etc is not going to achieve anything except make me resent the DVLA and the courts that enforce this. I also think there should be a cut off point for fines where they can't enforce it like with debt. Otherwise in theory what's to stop them going back 30 years and hitting you for stuff you did in your teens?

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