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    • Hi welcome to the Forum.  If a PCN is sent out late ie after the 12th day of the alleged offence, the charge cannot then be transferred from the driver to the keeper.T he PCN is deemed to have arrived two days after dispatch so in your case, unless you can prove that Nexus sent the PCN several days after they claim you have very little chance of winning that argument. All is not lost since the majority of PCNs sent out are very poorly worded so that yet again the keeper is not liable to pay the charge, only the driver is now liable. If you post up the PCN, front and back we will be able to confirm whether it is compliant or not. Even if it is ok, there are lots of other reasons why it is not necessary to pay those rogues. 
    • Hi 1 Date of the infringement  arr 28/03/24 21:00, dep 29/03/24 01.27 2 Date on the NTK  08/04/2024 (Date of Issue) 3 Date received Monday 15/04/24 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012?  Yes 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No  7 Who is the parking company? GroupNexus 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Petrol Station Roadchef Tibshelf South DE55 5T 'operating in accordance with the BPA's Code of Practice' I received a Parking Charge letter to keeper on Monday 15/04/24, the 17th day after the alleged incident. My understanding is that this is outside the window for notifying. The issue date was 08/04/2024 which should have been in good time for it to have arrived within the notice period but in fact it actually arrived at lunchtime on the 15th. Do I have to prove when it arrived  (and if so how can I do that?) or is the onus on them to prove it was delivered in time? All I can find is that delivery is assumed to be on the second working day after issue which would have been Weds 10//04/24 but it was actually delivered 5 days later than that (thank you Royal Mail!). My husband was present when it arrived - is a family member witness considered sufficient proof?
    • lookinforinfo - many thanks for your reply. It would be very interesting to get the letter of discontinuance. The court receptionist said that the county court was in Gloucester 'today' so that makes me think that some days it is in Gloucester and some days its in Cheltenham, it was maybe changed by the courts and i was never informed, who knows if DCBL were or not. My costs were a gallon of petrol and £3.40 for parking. I certainly don't want to end up in court again that's for sure but never say never lol. Its utterly disgusting the way these crooks can legally treat motorists but that's the uk for you. I'm originally from Scotland so it's good that they are not enforceable there but they certainly still try to get money out of you. I have to admit i have lost count of the pcn's i have received in the last 2 yr and 4 months since coming to England for work, most of them stop bothering you on their own eventually, it was just this one that they took it all the way. Like i mentioned in my WS the the likes of Aldi and other companies can get them cancelled but Mcdonalds refused to help me despite me being a very good customer.   brassednecked - many thanks   honeybee - many thanks   nicky boy - many thanks    
    • Huh? This is nothing about paying just for what I use - I currently prefer the averaged monthly payment - else i wouldn't be in credit month after month - which I am comfortable with - else I wold simply request a part refund - which I  would have done if they hadn't reduced my monthly dd after the complaint I raised (handled slowly and rather badly) highlighted the errors in their systems (one of which they do seem to have fixed) Are you not aware DD is always potentially variable? ah well, look it up - but my deal is a supposed to average the payments over a year, and i dont expect them to change payments (up or down) without my informed agreement ESPECIALLY when I'm in credit over winter.   You are happy with your smart meter - jolly for you I dont want one, dont have to have one  - so wont   I have a box that tells me my electricity usage - was free donkeys years ago and shows me everything I need to know just like a smart meter but doesnt need a smart meter,  and i can manually set my charges - so as a side effect - would show me if the charges from the supplier were mismatched. Doesn't tell me if the meters actually calibrated correctly - but neither does your smart meter. That all relies on a label and the competence of the testers - and the competence of any remote fiddling with the settings. You seem happy with that - thats fine. I'm not.    
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Hi all,

 

I was involved in a minor collision on Good Friday around lunchtime.

 

Briefly, woman reverses from driveway onto residential street, cars parked both sides. Hit the brakes, minor collision. I was probably doing between 20-25mph so the damage to both cars is relatively minor i.e. scuffing on her bumper and the same on my front wing.

 

Found her particularly unpleasant in her manner from the off but she gave her name and reg number and I gave the same.

 

Following morning policeman at door – apparently, later in the afternoon she has gone to the police station and accused me of making racist statements. Policeman says she doesn't want to take it any further but and I quote "What's really annoyed her is that she only got the car yesterday".

 

I'm told to call her up, apologise and give her my address - "do it today" he says.

 

I called her Easter Sunday at 9.45am and left my address only on her ansaphone.

 

Immediately after bank holiday weekend i.e. Tuesday I call insurance company and report the*accident.

 

Thursday, I receive letter from Thames valley Police (special delivery so must have been posted wednesday) saying Notice of intended prosecution

 

Alleged offence(s)

careless/inconsiderate driving

Fail to stop at R.T.A

Fail to report R.T.A

 

No indication as to which one, given that this is dated 29 March 2013 i.e. date of collision.

 

Is this simply a case of 'crossed wires'?

 

 

Grateful for any insight from the group

 

many thanks

 

C

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Unfortunately, this might not just be a case of "crossed wires" and you're right not to ignore the notice.

 

Under the Road Traffic Act, s170 you are required to give your name and address or report the accident to the police within 24 hours. If the PC did not treat his visit to you as an accident report, which given the circumstances he may well not have done, then you have not complied with the law. When a PC tells you to do something on the day, it really is best to heed their advice.

 

I don't think it's a dire situation though, as everything else you've done shows that you had no intention of avoiding responsibility, unless you refused to give your address to the other driver? It may also help if you explain the accident in a little more detail.

 

I would speak to the insurance company for advice (especially if you have legal cover with them), a lawyer, or even the police to confirm if the charges stand (I'm not sure how to go about this). You also may want to wait for one of the site team to post as it's not an area I'm well versed in. In any event, good luck.

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Pop down to the police stn explain the situation and say that you did stop however you feel you need to report it as well, take you driving licence, insurance and that should be the end of the matter, happened to me once I didn't report be cause I didn't realise I had scraped another car, company let me know about 3 weeks later so I popped down to the local Police and reported, it job done.

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Hi colbard, and welcome to CAG! :-)

 

I think I must be missing something. Why is this accident considered to be your fault? Correct me if I am wrong, but you were driving down a residential street, and she reversed into the street and hit you? Surely she was driving with due care and attention? What did the policeman say about the accident, not about your alleged racist comments?

 

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If someone reports an allegation of an offence after a crash has occurred, then the Police are obliged to send out a Notice of Intended Prosecution.

 

They have to list all the possible offences that may have been alleged or committed, which would include (in this case) dangerous and careless driving as well as the failing to stop and report.

 

In a damage only crash, you are required to provide the names and addresses of the drivers of the vehicles, names and addresses of the owners of the vehicles, registration marks and only in the case of injury are you required to exchange insurance details.

 

The fact that you only gave your name and registration number means that you have in effect committed the offence of failing to stop, but the other driver also has the same obligation, which may be why it was reported as in the event that drivers fail to comply with the law at the time, it must be reported in person to the Police as soon as practicable but in any case within 24 hours.

 

That said, the fact that the other driver reversed into the carriageway and into your path makes her guilty of careless driving and is absolute, so you can make a counter allegation.

 

But, from the sounds of it, it appears that this has been a malicious allegation made by the third party, however the Police are still obliged to send out the NIP to cover their back sides until such time as the investigation has been completed.

 

It appears the third party is being vindictive and as mentioned previously, it would be wise to make an appointment as soon as possible and give your account of the circumstances.

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