Margaret Thatcher Thread

[Desperate Daniella]

She was the widow of a very rich man. The Union were paying for Scargill's flat for 30 years. You surely aren't suggesting the taxpayer was paying for her stay at the Ritz.

[postggj]

my point is why is the tax payer picking up the tab for her funeral when she can afford to stay for a month at the RITZ

 

All that the government has stated is that she will make a donation from her estate as to the cost, yet again, the government has declined to answer what that percentage will be, i wonder why??

[Desperate Daniella]

I was no more a fan of Scargill than Thatcher but I think you underestimate the miners strength of feeling and ability to think for themselves.

 

I work with a man from the north east and asked how he felt about maggie's death. His reply - I'm from Tyneside. Do you really need to ask?

 

I am utterly appalled that in these austere times, we are expected to foot the bill for her funeral.

 

Certainly many of the miners wanted to strike and made that decision for themselves, but I would think that many were swept along even if they didn't want to strike. And those who said they didn't want to strike were intimidated and called scabs so you can't blame anyone who went along with it against their better judgment so that they and their families weren't treated as outcasts.

[ifhthsbdw]

She was the widow of a very rich man. The Union were paying for Scargill's flat for 30 years. You surely aren't suggesting the taxpayer was paying for her stay at the Ritz.

 

Yeah, they were all in it together during the Miners' strike weren't they?

[45002]

Some of the poorest, most vulnerable people least able to help themselfs are been hit government cuts and so on

 

Yet there having a state funeral or what ever they going to call it for her next Wednesday

 

Austerity Britain !

[postggj]

Some of the poorest, most vulnerable people least able to help themselfs are been hit government cuts and so on

 

Yet there having a state funeral or what ever they going to call it for her next Wednesday

 

Austerity Britain !

 

my point exactly

[ifhthsbdw]

Some of the poorest, most vulnerable people least able to help themselfs are been hit government cuts and so on

 

Yet there having a state funeral or what ever they going to call it for her next Wednesday

 

Austerity Britain !

 

Not unreasonable for probably the greatest peace time Prime Minster this country has ever had.

[ifhthsbdw]

I'm not sure of the protocol for ex Prime Ministers. One dying is not an everyday occurrence. I suspect that there would be some kind of state involvement, even for the likes of the useless Brown, who never actually won an election. As for Miliband, If we are ever mad enough as a nation to elect that boy as Prime Minister, when he croaks we can make a rocket and fire him to the moon alongside gromit.

[postggj]

greatest peace time Prime Minster this country has ever had.

SAYS WHO

 

Has there been any official poll to substantiate that statement

[ifhthsbdw]

greatest peace time Prime Minster this country has ever had.

SAYS WHO

 

Has there been any official poll to substantiate that statement

 

Oh, it would have to be an OFFICIAL poll would it? Presumably conducted by you? I could be wrong though, it could be Gordon Brown or even the slimeball Blair.

[postggj]

[postggj]

i think the facts speek for themselves

 

that's without all the political and media spin

 

cold hard facts

 

i myself do not care for any political party, i treat all of them with the contempt they deserve

 

what i will not tolerate are facts being twisted for a persons own gratification, and stealing the laurel's of another person who has earned them

Edited April 9, 2013 by squaddie

[Horsen]

Oh for the good old days squaddie. Freezing your b*^^*$+s off on sunny Saltau. We were the blue forces and the mythical enemy the orange. What I do remember when she got in power was the pay rise she gave us. How young and innocent then, but could still see what was coming when all the manufacturing industries started going. That was even before the miners strike. If she was the greatest ever prime minister then I am glad that, so far, I haven't lived through the worst. Saying that Blair and Brown were close.

[Desperate Daniella]

I'm not sure of the protocol for ex Prime Ministers. One dying is not an everyday occurrence. I suspect that there would be some kind of state involvement, even for the likes of the useless Brown, who never actually won an election. As for Miliband, If we are ever mad enough as a nation to elect that boy as Prime Minister, when he croaks we can make a rocket and fire him to the moon alongside gromit.

 

[ScarletPimpernel]

Oh for the good old days squaddie. Freezing your b*^^*$+s off on sunny Saltau.

 

If you'd worked harder at school, you could have joined the RAF...

 

I remember freezing my bolleaux off on many occasions, though - attached to an Army unit on exercise in Hameln, and doing UK/US liaison on Ex REFORGER (that was actually quite good fun, as I spent most of my time buzzing about in a Huey), Ex CRUSADER and all the others.

 

We were the blue forces and the mythical enemy the orange. What I do remember when she got in power was the pay rise she gave us. How young and innocent then, but could still see what was coming when all the manufacturing industries started going. That was even before the miners strike. If she was the greatest ever prime minister then I am glad that, so far, I haven't lived through the worst. Saying that Blair and Brown were close.

 

 

 

I too remember the pay rise, and the way morale improved because we were appreciated. The problem with the manufacturing industries was that they were making things, often badly, that no-one wanted and at prices that were too high - see British Leyland, for example. They were complacent and resistant to change, and it killed them. Labour subsidised them and tried to keep them going because it's what the unions told them to do. As Margaret Thatcher said: 'The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money'.

 

I was listening to a programme on the radio a few weeks ago, about how a former mining area had been regenerated. A man was interviewed, who had not worked since the pit closed, despite there being lots of new jobs. The reason he gave was that he had been a miner, and wasn't prepared to do anything else. The NUM were the miner's worst enemy; even Neil Kinnock says so.

 

Having also been through several sandy adventures courtesy of Bliar and Broon, I am quite clear that they were very much worse than Mrs Thatcher. Bliar sent us into Iraq on a false premise, under-equipped (courtesy of Broon as Chancellor) and with no exit strategy. He then sent us to Afghanistan - again poorly equipped (same serial for reason) and again with no exit strategy. The blood of many of our dead and wounded soldiers is on their hands. Broon, both as Chancelor and PM, did more damage to the armed forces than any enemy. I had the great misfortune of having to meet Broon on his last visit to Afghanistan. Insincere doesn't begin to describe him; limp handshake, no eye contact and no interest whatever in the people he was talking to. Wretched creature.

[postggj]

i have no hesitation in sending Blair to the Hague for war crimes, that man has so much blood on his hands, yet he still has the nerve to comment on politics, shoot the bas&^%d and do us all a favour

[citizenB]

I suppose we ought to be grateful that neither of them have any respect for Royalty (Blair and the wimp Cherie) else they would have been Lord n Lady by now !!

 

I guess the Queen's sword could have been sharpened for the occasion and she could have had a slight accident and tapped the sword side to side rather than up and down

[Horsen]

Hi Scarletpimpernel.

When I joined the Army I gave up a job working at Hawker Sideley Aviation and was studying Aeronautical Engineering. I applied for the Brylcrem Boys but was told I didn't have enough "O" Levels. At least I got to play with tanks for a while, plus lots of other things. I remember Crusader as I had just been posted to Germany attached to an infantry Regiment. What's that old saying about boys and toys?

[postggj]

you cannot get better than the original pig

 

the Saracen

 

great times

[TheLion]

£10,000,000 for a funeral!!! SAS guard, c'mon you're having a laugh. The crematorium near where I live would do it for under a grand!!! In fact, I'd do it for £500.

 

I suppose a few more benefit cuts must be on the way to cover this unexpected cost to the taxpayer.

[TheLion]

Further to my last post, MP' s can claim upto £3750 if they have to come back from over seas for the 'Thatcher Agrandisement' in Parliament this week, it just keeps getting better for the 'strivers' out there!!!

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22086690

[Horsen]

Hi squaddie,

How about the flying pig used in N.I.. with the swing out mesh barriers to act as barricades. Do you think they might need them next Wed in London? As much as I didn't like Maggie I wouldn't what the funeral to be hi-jacked by any anti this that or other brigade.I really don't know why the family don't just have a private service as they must know the deep feelings against their mother, as sad as that might be. Have their wishes been overlooked or do they think that the majority of people either liked her or have no point of view. I remember a T.V. programme a few years ago where Carole Thatcher visited Argentina and met the families of their dead from 1982, plus surviving veterans. If she could do that then why can't she see what a divided country her mother left behind.

[postggj]

I did three tours in NI

 

The worst was those lousy hand held clansman that we had, never could get more than 30 yards away, bleeding liability

 

ANYWAY AS FOR THATCHERS CHILDREN

 

when mark is not swanning off doing his Lawrence of Arabia stunt and getting lost, he is trying to overthrow the government of Equatorial Guinea, and carol thatcher, when she is not swanning herself in ime a celebrity get me out of here, she is banned from TV after using the term "golliwog on live TV and refused to apologize

[Desperate Daniella]

I can't stand Mark Thatcher, and I don't in any way condone Carol Thatcher using the term golliwog to describe a tennis player but what Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand and Frankie Boyle have done is far, far worse than that. But we know the BBC will always be biased against anything to do with the Conservative Party.

[Desperate Daniella]

I suppose we ought to be grateful that neither of them have any respect for Royalty (Blair and the wimp Cherie) else they would have been Lord n Lady by now !!

 

I guess the Queen's sword could have been sharpened for the occasion and she could have had a slight accident and tapped the sword side to side rather than up and down

Now that is a truly od**us woman. What an absolute freeloader - well they both are. Make that od**us couple.