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    • No you're not doomed. It's a shame you covered up the dates and times on your PCN since they can possibly help your case when they don't comply with the requirements of the rules in private car parks. Could you please therefore include the arrival and departure times as well as the date of the offence and the date on which they alleged they sent you the PCN. The PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4.since the wording should invite the keeper to pay the outstanding amount. Also I cannot see on the PCN that UKPO are the Creditor though I may have missed it since it is so unusual not to include it. The upshot is that you as keeper are no longer liable to pay the charge if the driver fails to pay within 28 days-0nly the driver is now liable. As Courts [assuming it gets that far ] do not accept that the driver and the keeper are not the same these rogues will have a hard job who was driving unless you appeal or have appealed and revealed who was driving. You did say that you weren't parked there long and had that been correct you have perhaps 15 minutes where you might have had a further. argument. As it judging by the confusing times mentioned in the wording or the PCN you were there for almost an hour? However as the light was not good and I presume the signs were not illuminated that is a reason that you could not see the sign. And did you have your blue badge showing ? Interestingly the post code quoted does not agree with the Post office one in West houghton= BL5 3JS Are there two different Tesco  car parks in Bolton. You obviously could not be in two places at the same time...............
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Hello everyone,


I am new to the site and would be very grateful if you could assist me with a problem I'm having with 'Triton Showers'. Aplogies if this thread is not in the right section, I couldn't see where else to put it.


The issue I'm having is that Triton showers are harassing me by post (and previously by phone too) about paying a £68 call out charge and possibly £30 more on top of that.


Early in 2013 I called them up as my shower was having water pressure problems. I spoke to the lady on the phone who asked me to do a couple of things to ensure it wasn't something on my end and that I wouldn't be charged with the call out fee. I did that (checking for blockages etc) and found no problem. The problem had developed only a month or so before I called Triton.


The engineer then visited us and was a very rude and unprofessional person. He refused to do anything, saying the shower had been fitted incorrectly. He left quite quickly.


Soon (Feb 13) I received a letter from Triton along with a barrage of calls, asking for the £68. I was shocked and have refused to pay anything to the scoundrels.


This has dragged on now and I thought maybe the matter had gone under the carpet but at the beginning of this month I received more correspondence from Triton again demanding the call out charges. I have also been told that an additional £30 will be added if i do not pay by tomorrow (9th April 2013.)


I am quite concerned at this now as I am an unemployed person at the moment and cannot possibly pay this money.


I have tried searching the forums for Triton related problems but haven't been able to find anything particularly relevant.


If anyone could assist me I would be very grateful. Thank you.


P.S. I have also discussed this with Triton Showers representatives through e-mail and told them how I could not possibly know of an installation problem as I not a qualified professional in this field and that I had the shower installed by professionals. Their latest email back to me today is as follows:


"I write further to your most recent email received in our office.


May I draw your to your attention to page 14 of the installation guide under plumbing connections that states you must not use plastic fittings and also on the same page where it states compression fittings must be used.


In view of these facts, it is cleat that yourself or your installer has not read the instruction booklet and we have therefore charged appropriately".


Kind regards


Helen Chandler

Administration / Warranty Team Leader

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If the shower was fitted incorrectly by a contractor other than Triton they have a point, the shower isn't faulty the problem is with the installation and if that was not done by Triton I think they could well be within their rights to charge a call out fee. what do the t&c,s say

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I can't post the link to T's and C's but here's a part of it, on the website.


"6. Where a call under the terms of guarantee has been booked and the failure is not product related (i.e. scaling and furring, incorrect water pressure, pressure relief device operation or electrical/plumbing installation fault) a charge will be made. A charge will also be issued if nobody is at home when the service engineer calls or adequate parking/permit is not available."



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Was the charge made clear to you before the visit was made (ie on booking)? If you had the shower installed you need to get on at the cowboy who did it for you and warn them that they are liable for your costs and any cost of getting a decent plumber in to put it right. The £30 admin fee is cobblers, they have no agreement that can force you to pay that.

I would have thought that the engineer could have been more helpful but that is a different complaint, many of these manufacturers look for get-outs when it comes to warranties so it is pot luck if you get someone helpful.

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The lady I spoke to, on the phone, did inform me that there could be a call out charge so she had me do a few things to check whether there was any blockages etc with the shower. I did those checks and it seemed fine. This is the first shower I've ever bought from Triton Showers. I really regret my decision.

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Hi Kanwar


I must admit I agree with AB on this one. Your real issue is with whoever installed it not the actual shower as that works correctly. Who did the install for you? Was it a plumber or a friend etc?

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They can only charge you a call-out fee if there is a written or verbal contract between you and Triton for payment of the fee. If you were clearly told over the phone that there would be a call-out fee if the problem was not product related, then they can charge you. If this was not explained, they cannot charge you unless they can rely on the T&Cs.


But they can only rely on the T&Cs if they form part of a contract between you and Triton. If you bought from a retailer and not directly from Triton, they can only rely on the T&Cs if they were brought to your attention on the call or if they are explained in the installation guide. Are they in the installation guide? If not, I don't see how they can rely on them. Triton's response is inadequate because it does not explain how wrong installation makes you liable for a fee.


The 30quid is probably not enforceable. The law does not allow for recovery of penalty charges.


Personally, I would write a letter to Triton explaining that you did not agree to pay a call-out fee, this was not explained on the call and you do not know what legal basis Triton have for claiming the fee from you. Therefore, you will not be paying a call-out fee. If Triton wishes to pursue this matter they should provide a recording of the call in which it is alleged that you agreed to pay the fee or a proper explanation of why they think you are legally liable to pay the fee.




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I think the call mout fee was explained on the phone and T BH on tis occasion why shouldnt tey charge it? there is nothing wrong with the shower it was the installation I dont see how this is Tritons problem it was incorrectly installed. The checks that the op carried out were just basic nones to see if the problam was obvious, OP knew about the call out charge if the problem wasnt Tritons

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