shoplift at M&S

[suraj_bhatia]

i was caught in M&S

they called the police and the checked my entire bag

he found the stuff which i was stolen from M&S

 

.And they are asking for the recepiet of other stuff which was not found.

 

I accepted my fault with guilty and shame.

stuff is from other different store.

 

they have told me to sign a Simple Caution because i donot have the photo id because of (Dependent visa).

Now i am feeling so rediculous i cannot be able to tell this whole story to my family.

 

I want to know how it will effect to my visa processing.

 

And also i have read on different website that i would get a RLP letter to pay the penality

however they have taken back all the stuff with them.

 

want to know getting RLP letter

 

what time it will take because my visa is near around of expiring.

 

I think i stole of about 70-80 pound so how much i would have to pay.

Please help me out I caanot be able to resist it.

In future i will try not to come in UK because its my Dependent visa for 1 year.i am so ashamed off.

i think when i will apply for extension i have to mention this Simple Caution given by police in Visa application which i cannt do bacause of dependency.

I have to live here for 3 more months want to know would the police will disturb me any more at my home.

 

The Simple Caution which police has given to me there is 1 clause included:

I understand that the simple caution may not preclude a subsequent prosecution and that it will not preclude a civil action by an aggrieved party.

If there are any victims as a result of these offence ,they might still take civil action me and the police might give my name and address.

 

This is the reason I am so scared i am new for here in UK.

Edited March 28, 2013 by suraj_bhatia
1 legal point has missed

[honeybee13]

Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

You won't have to pay RLP, it's the police who deal with shoplifting. Are you expecting to hear more from them [the police] please?

 

If that's your real name, please hit the black triangle at the bottom left of your post and report it to the site team. Tell them you need a name change at what you would like to change it to.

 

My best, HB

[dx100uk]

it wont effect your visa either

 

ignore RLP it is NOT A FINE.

 

dx

[suraj_bhatia]

In future i will try not to come in UK because its my Dependent visa for 1 year.i am so ashamed off.

i think when i will apply for extension i have to mention this Simple Caution given by police in Visa application which i cannt do bacause of dependency.

I have to live here for 3 more months want to know would the police will disturb me any more at my home.

[Conniff]

Were you taken to the police station and given a caution ?

[suraj_bhatia]

Were you taken to the police station and given a caution ?

 

 

they have taken me to the basement office there they have taken the finger prints and the saliva test also clicked my photo because i donot have any kind of photo Identity card with me.

i am on Dependent Visa.at that time i was feeling that i have did a big crime...

[BazzaS]

Ignore RLP. Their involvement would be at most a civil legal matter, not criminal.

 

The problem you may face is that a Penalty Notice for Disorder (PND) isn't a conviction, but those for "retail theft" still get recorded on the Police National Computer (PNC)

 

https://www.gov.uk/penalty-notices-for-disorder-pnd

 

"No admission of guilt is required, and by paying the penalty, a recipient discharges liability for conviction for the offence. However, PNDs issued for offences such as retail theft, criminal damage, cannabis possession and being drunk and disorderly are recorded on the police national computer (PNC)"

 

So, you don't have a conviction, but if, during an immigration process you are asked: " Have you engaged in any other activities which might indicate that you may not be considered a person of good character?", or equivalent, you take a risk not declaring the PND

 

A PND might not be a bar to a visa, but not declaring it and them finding it on the PNC might well be an issue!

[citizenB]

Are security staff allowed to take fingerprints and saliva tests ?

[Sidewinder]

Are security staff allowed to take fingerprints and saliva tests ?

 

Can't believe it was security - must have been done at a police station...

[Sneeky]

Can't believe it was security - must have been done at a police station...

 

correct, security have no legal power to conduct these actions, and only the police are abled to do so..

 

I would be worried if security had the ability to do this, considering it clearly shows most security cant even perform their own duties lol

[davewright13]

£80 worth of stuff from M&S? You must have had over 10 bags of stuff then?

 

Don't worry it won't affect your visa {EDIT]

Edited April 2, 2013 by dx100uk
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[suraj_bhatia]

i got a letter from drydenfairfax claiming for 86 pound. on 5th april,

 

i have not responded to them then they sent the other letter on 18th april,

 

they have given me 7days for paying the money otherwise they will tell their client(M&S) for recovery with any option.

 

I am very scared will they go to the county court.

 

I know i have admitted my guilty and now i have a simple caution too.

 

will they treat it as a proof against me.

 

i also want to know in this whole process probably how much time it will take..

[dx100uk]

I though this was primark? not M+S?

 

dx

[suraj_bhatia]

ya by mistake i have written primark but its Marks and spencer

[dx100uk]

they can do nothing to you

 

ignore their scary red letters

 

dx

[suraj_bhatia]

thnkx for ur reply but i have read on many forums that they will go to the county court and saw his losses by using cctv tape and they

will demand the fixed price which i have to pay in certain time.

thankx for your time in advance.

[dx100uk]

not here you haven't they gave up court a long time ago

read the oxford case

 

dx