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    • That's great work.  Well done on both the content and the level of snottiness.  That's exactly the sort of thing your wife should send, let them know she's sussed their sordid scheme and will be big trouble for them if they do court.  Fancy trying to charge her for overstaying for one minute!   Excellent "Dear Philip and Sian" research, I must confess I didn't know who ran PE, this will be something to suggest to Caggers in future PE cases!   If none of the other regulars object invest in a 2nd class stamp tomorrow and get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office. My Road My Town My County My Postcode Date Your Reference No. Dear Philip and Sian, Thanks for wasting your pennies and sending me a letter before claim. I understand you think I owe you something. I had a good laugh at the idea you actually really thought I'd take such tripe seriously and cough up! Now, you know that your claim has no basis and I know that you know that your claim has no basis Your can either drop this hopeless case or get a good spanking in court where I will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and I’ll be able spend some of your ill-gotten gains. Me
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    • I do feel now that I would like to comment on some points raised on some of the posts on this feed:   Although I found the appearance and comments from Zac to be rather strange, I have not left a scathing review; I was merely seeking some advice as I have never been in this situation before and did not know what to do.   The information I have provided is factual, transparent, and comprehensive. The pdf I posted of full correspondence, screenshots with text on (and to clarify direct quotations from the video walk round), and photographs of the bonnet show this.   The emails and comments posted by the dealer do not constitute the full facts of the situation as he stated, and it makes me feel sick that I have repeatedly been called a bully and a blackmailer (via correspondence and forum comments) throughout this. Additionally, the 4th email posted by the dealer which he named as the response to the email above it was not the response I received to it.   I have made it clear from the start that I wish to keep the car and only wanted it in the condition as advertised. Upon receipt of my first email concerning my complaint (not the best email, I know), it was very clear that the dealer wanted the car back. His response to this was a WhatsApp message which ended in “To be frank I don’t want to sell some one a car that insults and then blackmails me”. This was also the only option provided which would not cost me considerable time or expense. Although it would still have left me without a car (and having to resume my search), as my old Golf was due to be collected by a private buyer. Also, this was the only option offered without sarcastic and/or patronising comments attached. This is of course only my personal opinion and I am aware that I may not be fully objective on this point, but I felt bullied into doing what the dealer wanted.   Whilst I understand my initial email was quite conflict orientated, and that I have not dealt with this situation well, I don’t believe it excuses the responses I received. I am at a loss to see how this is above and beyond in terms of customer service.   As the dealer pointed out, I did state that the car was in fantastic condition for its year (the interior is fantastic for the year), apart from the bonnet of course. The car has most likely done predominately motorway miles which would account for the bonnet. There are minor issues which also don’t match up with the video walk round. Namely, a tiny dent in the rear wheel arch, which is barely even noticeable, several paint chips around one of the doors, the odd stone chip elsewhere, the alloy wheels are in good condition, but not absolutely pristine as most were described as (I had assumed maybe these has been reconditioned), the rear loading strip is heavily marked all the way across, but the paintwork not affected. However, all of these I feel are minor in a 10 year old car. Upon reflection ‘great’ may have been a better representation than ‘fantastic' on my comment.   During my initial phone complaint, I was told that I was the first customer to complain in over 50 cars (can’t recall the exact number but remember it being in the 50’s) to which I said that I felt bad about, later it was 300…   I never asked for £150. As mentioned before, I accepted this offer over the phone after the dealer had told me that I would not be able to get a stone chip repair company to rectify, as “there are hundreds,” and that it would need respraying. He told me that it would cost him £150 (did not mention plus V.A.T) and that it might cost me £200 here.   I was confused by the pricing structure mentioned (from the chap he has previously told me he has used for his body work repairs for years) as this appeared to be an invoice, which I assumed was for another car’s repairs. The total cost was over £1,000. It stated £180 for a bonnet repair and paint (vandal damage, small repair or paint correction) and on the second page V.A.T was added. If this is correct this would surely equate to a total cost of £216 for the bonnet, but of course I could be wrong. Not inclusive of the cost of collecting and delivering the car back to me, as I have been informed that this should not be of inconvenience or cost to me.   I asked for a larger contribution as initially I was led to believe it would cost me £50 and a little inconvenience. Only after I stated the specific consumer rights (which I had Googled over the weekend) and sent the dealer photos of the bonnet did he offer me a further £112.50 for this. In hindsight I could have specified a figure, and that I still did not expect the blended wings to be paid for. Before this, the dealer stated that he did not wish to negotiate any further and to take the car back to him to paint or they will refund and collect. Upon seeking more specific advice on Monday I was informed of my full rights in this circumstance.   It is certainly not a case of changing my mind because I wanted a brand new bonnet etc. and I disagree that the dealer kept his "kool" and replied respectfully throughout, as I do not consider sarcastic and derogatory comments throughout as respectful.   The warranty is a 6 month bronze package from Warranty Wise in this case, which I believe is the only option for a car over 100,000 miles.   I’m unsure as to the significance of the dealer counting 14 stone chips, but maybe this was on one of the photos close to the edge of the bonnet. I have not zoomed in, merely taken a photos of different areas of the bonnet. You can gauge the size on the photos which are closer to the front headlight area. Also, again this issue is not about the size of the stone chips, which do vary in size throughout, it is about the sheer amount across the bonnet not being as described. I did state that these were difficult to see in sunlight or at a distance. However, upon reflection I should have stated more clearly i.e. direct sunshine. I believe 2 or 3 were pointed out on the front edge of the bonnet in the video walk round. In which the dealer stated "Body work is absolutely stunning for the year, with only very minor age related marks, which we’ll point out as we walk round… Bonnet; no scratches, no dents, no damage. If we look closely, we might find the odd little stone chip here and there that have been touched in, little one there, very difficult to see. Little one there, look. So, it's got the odd little stone chip on the front of the bonnet edge, apart from that it's very very clean."   There are not over 30 emails about this, there are 12 and 11 WhatsApp messages (inclusive of the 2 photos of the body shop invoice).   From what I understand about mediation, its purpose is to negotiate to resolve an issue as timely and smoothly as possible. The last emails from the dealer stated that they had no choice but to take legal advice and pass all their correspondence to Lawgistics. With a formal retraction of all previous offers except returning the car to them for a refund, which would be my responsibility. This also informed me of the AA ADR. Followed by one stating “My apologies I forgot to include the phone number for the legal team… Bonnie is the team leader should you wish to escalate to the highest level. Please note that on taking further advice we are under no obligation to offer a refund for the vehicle.”   The dealer also stated “our car” at the end of one of his posts which is odd. It is legally my car which was purchased online in good faith.   Bankfodder’s recent comment concerning the AA does indicate he is saying the AA does not know what they are talking about.   Lastly, I am also unsure as to why anyone would want to deliberately add stone chips to their newly purchased car, or indeed how. Is this even possible?
    • As far as I can see I could just have scanned in a QR code of an unused or unreported test and declared it negative.  It is a venue asking for this and it's utterly pointless.  They'd be much better asking everyone to bring an LFT with them and randomly picking 10% out on entry to test in front of a witness
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I have a normal bank account, without an overdraft facility. Everytime I have accidentaly gone overdrawn by anything over £25 I then get charged a £25 fee for everytime this is done. Over the past 2 years this has happened a few times. Its not a credit card its just a normal solo bank card!

 

Can I claim any of these fee's back?

 

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Alot of the charges were from a long time ago when I was young and stupid and used to gamble more than I could afford! So the transactions may be for going overdrawn for multiple betting transactions! Can the bank say that I was well aware of what I was doing treating it as an extra facility and refuse to refund?

 

I tell you what does bold well for me there was one time when my card stopped refusing transactions which I then receieved charges for going overdrawn, I then contacted the bank and complained that the card should not accept transactions if there is no money in the basic account! They then agreed fixed the setting so it stopped authorising transactions! Three months later it started accepted transactions when I had no money in the account!

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Hi JS,

 

Welcome to the group - it is a scary step, but you do need to be aware of what you are doing.

 

It really does take a few days to get your head around all the arguments and all the information. The FAQs and Library have answers to 95% of the questions you want to ask. I would strongly suggest reading them before coming back with more questions

 

You will be setting a timetable (the timetable that the bank says it will work to is irrelevant). In the FAQ you will find 'first steps.' Start this, be clear on what your first step is (requesting the info from the bank so that you can calculate what they owe you).

 

Whilst waiting for the info, read up on your next step. If you make sure you stick to your own thread in the relevant area (eg [username] claim against [bank]), and use this as a sort of diary which you can update as things progress. It will also enable you to check responses to your questions, and people will be able to find your thread a lot easier.

 

Good luck.

 

You are here, you want your money back, you will get help and support in this, but it is YOUR call, and you must be prepared to put in the effort.

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The day your bank starts to dictate what you are allowed to spend money on it is the end for us all!!

 

It doesn't matter why you incurred these unlawful charges - they are still unlawful charges.

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I am trying to find an address to send DPA disclosure request to, because i am editing the templates so they are suitable for me. If i do decide to go ahead and try and claim back my charges.

 

What is a suitable address tos end it to?

 

I have seen the contact details on hsbc bank action group page. But unsure which one is most suitable!

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The best one to use for your first letter is your local branch. The bank's internal systems will ensure that the letter gets to the right person. Suggest sendiong it recorde delivery. Good luck.

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I am prepared to send the first DPA letter to recieve information about my charges and transactions etc. I just want to know what would be the correct address to send it to.

 

Would it be a specific customer service department? or my local Branch, addressed branch manager?

 

Also what is the best method for me to send the letter to prevent bank from saying they havent recieved the letter etc so that they then may be able to prevent me from winning by default?

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The Manager,

Local Branch.

 

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I sent my DPA request to my branch manager at my local branch address (the one on my cheque books) and got a reply. The reply was not from my local manager, but the letter had obviously been forwarded on. If you're not sure who your branch manager is, you can call up customer services (use the local number - 01226 261010 - not the 08457 one) and ask them who he/she is.

 

Another reason for using the local branch is that if it gets to court you can then apply to the court near you rather than one miles away where the banks head office is.

 

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Keep the wording as close to the template as you can, apart from the odd changes you will need to make it fit your circumstances. The letters are carefully worded to have maximum effect, and legal accuracy.

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I think i am starting to understand the process and possible outcomes more now, i feel as tho the process is looking easier and less complicated than first thought. Which makes me wonder am i missing something? Hope not! I am also feeling more comfortable that there is nothing the bank can do to prevent them giving me my money back or at elast taking a small percentage of it for themselves the covers the realisitic costs, giving me the real amount that was illegal taken from my account! I am actually feeling very confident!

 

I am going tos end DPA letter friday when I have read alot more of these boards and gained more knowledge

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That is the best advice - the more you read other peoples experiences the more the process becomes clear. Should anything happen in the process that needs further help - there are plenty of people ready to offer advice and support.

 

All the best.

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Use recorded delivery. You can then check on-line to see that it has been delivered. Doesn't cost much more than a normal stamp. Well, I suppose in relative terms it's about 4 times the cost? The only inconvenience is that you have to go into a post office to do it. Can't just drop it in a post box. But, it is worth it.

 

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Use recorded delivery. You can then check on-line to see that it has been delivered. Doesn't cost much more than a normal stamp. Well, I suppose in relative terms it's about 4 times the cost? The only inconvenience is that you have to go into a post office to do it. Can't just drop it in a post box. But, it is worth it.

 

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Do i then get any other confirmation that they have actually recieved the document, ie written

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When you send recorded delivery you get a 'barcode/ID number" - log onto Post Office/Track & Trace a day or two after posting and it will tell you which office delivered it and when...

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