IDS is misleading the public again!!!

[caro]

Invest in building much needed homes, providing jobs, money to spend to boost the economy, take people out of unemployment and off benefits.

 

Simples!

[joeski]

There should be a thread on here for the benefit of IDS. The fella can't do right for doing wrong. For all of those in this country that are objecting to the reforms, maybe they should stand up and tell the rest of us how they would solve the budget imbalance. Much criticism, but not much in the way of helpful advice and alternative policies.

 

i wouldn't know where to start with IDS, everything he does is wrong and imho he may as well have not been born because he is no help to anyone.

[Nystagmite]

what has IDS done right, exactly?

[joeski]

what has IDS done right, exactly?

 

IDS has done nothing right, i can't wait for the day he falls and David Cameron kicks him out of the goverment for good. then i won't have to look at his ugly face every time there is a welfare related news story

[caro]

Tbh I don't think any one person can be blamed for this. It's all been agreed in parliament.

[joeski]

Tbh I don't think any one person can be blamed for this. It's all been agreed in parliament.

 

tbh i think all the blame should be placed at IDS's door, he is responsible and should be punished for his mistakes.

[odds]

That would not raise very much! Evasion of taxes is miniscule.

 

Just take DLA as one example - where else would they find close to £3bn a year of savings?

 

Could start here I suppose:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/9722767/2bn-of-UK-aid-to-help-Third-World-go-green.html

 

These schemes are great if you have spare money to throw around, which we apparently don't as we are being constantly told.

 

Pete.

[dpick]

IDS has done nothing right, i can't wait for the day he falls and David Cameron kicks him out of the goverment for good. then i won't have to look at his ugly face every time there is a welfare related news story

 

No way will David Cameron throw IDS out he keeps the lime light off DC when thing go pear shaped. Funny how every time the cons start having bad publicity IDS seem to do something the press love to go ape about.

 

dpick

[joeski]

No way will David Cameron throw IDS out he keeps the lime light off DC when thing go pear shaped. Funny how every time the cons start having bad publicity IDS seem to do something the press love to go ape about.

 

dpick

 

 

well from what i've heard Cameron has already tried to kick IDS out..the press do not love IDS, they probably just feel sorry for him and his demented ways

[worried33]

There should be a thread on here for the benefit of IDS. The fella can't do right for doing wrong. For all of those in this country that are objecting to the reforms, maybe they should stand up and tell the rest of us how they would solve the budget imbalance. Much criticism, but not much in the way of helpful advice and alternative policies.

 

Many of us have already said how they would reduce the defecit, but the fact you even asked the question indicates you have been gravely misled.

 

The first issue been the deficit is not even a big problem, its much smaller than it has been historically.

The second issue been is you feel you need to ask the question when the government are spending money on huge tax cuts (yes tax cuts is spending money). As well as budgeting for a new high speed rail line and giving rich people money for mansions.

[antone]

Many of us have already said how they would reduce the defecit, but the fact you even asked the question indicates you have been gravely misled.

 

The first issue been the deficit is not even a big problem, its much smaller than it has been historically.

 

This is precisely correct. The deficit is not important, and the actions being taken to "fix" this non-problem are making things worse. I agree with Caro. We should be investing in infrastructure projects (including HS2, IMO) to stimulate economic growth. We should also reinstate public sector workers who've been laid off.

[worried33]

Whilst you are right HS2 is a stimulas I did mention that as the poster seems obsessed with cuts, yet all those backing these policies seem to think there is mass cuts everywhere when the reality is 90% is on social security.

[joeski]

yet more tosh from deluded old IDS *yawn*

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301390/Thousands-taking-jobs-Iain-Duncan-Smiths-benefits-cap-He-says-reforms-changing-behaviour.html

[osdset]

Where does this magic £26000 come from? Take off HB which goes directly to landlords, and CT benefit which goes directly to LA's and not the claimants pocket contrary to what IDS and the Mail would have the Angry of Mayfair brigade believe, and then print what's left.

[joeski]

you never see stories like that about MP's expenses.

[osdset]

you never see stories like that about MP's expenses.

 

MP's think it's right and proper to accept handouts from the public purse for expenses, I call it scrounging.

Everybody has to pay their outgoings from their salary except MP's, I call that unfair advantage.

 

How can these people can look down on us mere mortals with disdain when they are the bigger offenders?

[Nystagmite]

Shouldn't IDS be happy that people are getting back to work and off benefits? I imagine for most it's nothing to do with the benefit cap. I wonder if he realises that some people on benefits do want to work?

[dogboneday]

Oh really? http://citywire.co.uk/money/tax-evasion-costs-treasury-15-times-more-than-benefit-fraud/a378274

 

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/11/tax-avoidance-justice-network

 

The second link claims it's almost £70billion. How is that miniscule? It's much higher than benefit fraud.

 

I wasn't talking about benefit fraud - I never mentioned it.

 

what I am talking about is the amount of money that has to be saved out of the Welfare Budget to balance the books. For DLA alone they need to save £3bn a year.

[postggj]

Ask yourself why savings are being made out of the welfare budget. The official statistics show 90% of government savings are against welfare, why.

 

The government never seem to mention where else they are imposing savings

 

The latest statement from Duncan smith stated

 

"If you listen to what I am saying, you will understand the reality is that this country is not cutting welfare, it is managing the growth at a lower level."

 

So he admits its the lowest people in society having to pay, not big business etc

 

He really is a vile little man

[sadone]

Remember folks.

 

[joeski]

i want to work but i don't think the current system will help me that much, IDS has no right to dictate to anyone about anything..he is a deluded tw*t who wouldn't know the truth if it came up and smacked him round his ugly face!

[Nystagmite]

IDS really doesn't live in the real world, does he?

[joeski]

IDS really doesn't live in the real world, does he?

 

nope he doesn't, he lives in his little fantasy world in his head.

[dogboneday]

Where does this magic £26000 come from? Take off HB which goes directly to landlords, and CT benefit which goes directly to LA's and not the claimants pocket contrary to what IDS and the Mail would have the Angry of Mayfair brigade believe, and then print what's left.

 

Why take those off? If you were working you would have to pay them out of income anyhow.

 

It's a direct comparison. salary/wages or benefits, it doesn't really matter. Except that wages are earned and benefits are paid for by those that earn!

 

So you could say that those that work and earn a income not only pay for their own rent and council tax but end up paying towards someone else's as well.

[dogboneday]

MP's think it's right and proper to accept handouts from the public purse for expenses, I call it scrounging.

Everybody has to pay their outgoings from their salary except MP's, I call that unfair advantage.

 

How can these people can look down on us mere mortals with disdain when they are the bigger offenders?

 

Employees working in private industry also are paid expenses. Why just pick on MP's? If the large expense accounts were removed from senior employees, the price that the public would pay for their product would be cheaper - British Gas as an example.