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The biggest frauds are the people who are running it. I gave that shenanigans up after they used it to stitch me up last year and try to kick me off benefits. Now I'm about to get kicked off ESA, while the question of 'do I maybe have early signs of MS?' prevails. Working Tax Credits here I come. FTLOM

 

I reckon some of the jobs I applied for on there were fraud. I'm being made to give out my details to every possible con man under the sun to keep a roof over my head. One time I was asked to design something, best design gets the job, never heard back. Wasted a couple of nights on it I could have spent more productively. Crowd sourcing I think they call it in the art world.

 

Screw the JC, they ruined my summer last year. I'll never forgive them for that.

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Show them you're already doing everything you can to find work - that's the best way to avoid any further things being put upon you, though they'll probably 'up' your JS agreement a bit and want you to apply for a few more jobs.

 

What they're looking for now is the areas where they think you're still lacking, ie not being very literate, not having confidence, needing help with CV's, etc Any failings in these might result in you being sent for little refresher courses, so try and show them you're on the ball, are organised and are doing LOTS to find work.

 

Hopefully you'll get a decent advisor too, which is half the battle. Good luck.

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Unfortunately PWP tends to rationalise rudeness and bullying as acceptable and even when you show them you've done as agreed they try to treat you like dirt and they will try to force you to allow UJM access. They won probably send you on a fortnight course to do with cvs, interviews and money because someone you don't know doesn't know how to manage money

They may try to berate you over your spending habits and appearance and try to lie that being unemployed is your fault

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They may try to berate you over your spending habits

 

I have a simple policy - Never, ever discuss finances with anyone. The only exception is a qualified and certified financial advisor or a bank manager. WP minions and JCP advisers have little, if any knowledge of money matters and have no rights to give advice on how you spend your money.

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I overheard a guy getting berated and belittled for not shaving and wearing casual clothes as opposed to a suit, the he was asked about how much he spends on smoking and then the guy told him he should use that money to top his phone up so he has credit

He was also getting told how it's somehow his fault he's not working due to not tailoring cvs and stuff and that he should do more to look

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I overheard a guy getting berated and belittled for not shaving and wearing casual clothes as opposed to a suit

 

Did pass comment once that the adviser should have a shave and change the brand of aftershave - Fortunately, there was a solid desk between me and her :bolt:

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Did pass comment once that the adviser should have a shave and change the brand of aftershave - Fortunately, there was a solid desk between me and her :bolt:

 

you aren't being paid to be professional

a shave??

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I have a simple policy - Never, ever discuss finances with anyone. The only exception is a qualified and certified financial advisor or a bank manager. WP minions and JCP advisers have little, if any knowledge of money matters and have no rights to give advice on how you spend your money.

 

Too right! I also never discuss personal stuff like interests, hobbies, etc with them - not even the nicer ones. Keep it business-like at all times; none of us are there for the pleasure of it.

 

Last advisor who asked me smugly what I did with 'all my spare time' I replied 'Oh, I meet up regularly in the evenings with your District Manager, who's an ex-Civil Service colleague and a very good friend of mine. Often your Regional Manager comes along too, another good friend'.

 

Never seen the subject changed so quickly :)

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I just don't get this - it would never have occurred to me to ask a claimant what they spent their money on. I suppose I was a processsor, not an FLA, but still.

 

My view was that we're all in this together.

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I think it's part of the idea where they pay you yto Jobseek so you must Jobseek 24/7 and you can't have hobbies or a life

It's their way of being tougher in prep for UC

 

I get this impression due to my one and a manager I made a complaint to about her

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So as of to today the new scheme called The Help To Work Programme starts at Jobcentre Plus and Will affect anybody claiming Jsa for 2 or more years - it consists of signing on everyday or a 4 week voluntary work placement

Or upto a 6 month placement that includes a training scheme

TJR JNR

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How long do u hav to be claiming jsa before they send u to wp - it was 12 months for me so it would only effect people who hav completed 12 months at wp if its the same where u are and also people who are already doing voluntary work off their own bat will probably be excluded

TJR JNR

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I claimed 6 months JSA(CB) then 6 months JSA(IB) and then was told when I went in I was on the work programme - great! Of course they have brilliant so far, what I mean is they have done NOTHING to helpme at all and it is a total waste of time

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I will be safe anyway as I won't be doing it as I have my own voluntary roles that I found myself for 3 days a week. I sort of saw this coming which is why I got in early and sorted something I wanted to do for myself rather than doing something useless for no pay.

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So this has been implemented from today in EVERY jobcentre? Or has it just started being rolled out today?

Yes it will be in every jobcentre as of today and will affect anybody claiming jsa for 2 or more years and not currently under taking any voluntary work or training

TJR JNR

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Yes it will be in every jobcentre as of today and will affect anybody claiming jsa for 2 or more years and not currently under taking any voluntary work or training

 

My advice to you all is to find yourself something YOU want to do as soon as you can, at least that way you have the upper hand

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Thanks. Would online volunteering be accepted? There is one that really interests me about proofreading scanned texts.

Nevermind reading up on it, it seems that it is only places in the community that would be accepted. I also dont think you will be safe if you already do voluntary unless you are working 30 hours.

 

I do have a question though, I am moving to a new area in a few weeks, and am hoping to get a job not long after I move there and I am wondering one thing, if I get a temporary job and say it only lasted 3 months, what would happen if I signed back on? Would I be a new claim? I finsihed the work programme back in November 2013 and have been on the post work programme since then.

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Yes it will be in every jobcentre as of today and will affect anybody claiming jsa for 2 or more years and not currently under taking any voluntary work or training

 

Yeh was going to say if u are on the WP then u are fine after your 2years is done u then get put on to the help to work scheme

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