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Luckily at the moment I haven't had to bother the JCP lot as I have a temp job until Christmas, and it is very well paid and the people are very nice.

 

:whoo::grouphug::cheer2:

 

Hope it all goes well and that they may extend the contract well in to the new year.

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A friend and I spent an enjoyable afternoon dreaming up daft jobs and reasons we were rejected - some of the list was

 

1. Had scaffolder in to install scaffold pole in bedroom to practice pole dancing for audition for adult films

2. Applied to Virgin to be intergalactic stewardess but told would be of retirement age when training began

3. Applied to be a Lollipop lady but was rejected because didn't have a sweet tooth

4. Applied to be a window cleaner but was rejected because scared of heights

 

there were quite a few 'adult themed' ones.

 

Luckily at the moment I haven't had to bother the JCP lot as I have a temp job until Christmas, and it is very well paid and the people are very nice. I spent a whole day re-writing my CV making it far more 'specialist' and got a job via an agency within two hours of posting it up.

 

Hope everybody else is bearing up under the stupidity of the JSA system.

 

Pleased to learn that you have a temp job - although it may only last until christmas, it may also lead to a longer term job within the company.

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I spent a whole day re-writing my CV making it far more 'specialist' and got a job via an agency within two hours of posting it up.

 

That's the advice the WP should be giving; it's not about 'what goes where' it's simply about making your CV fit each application.

 

Hope your job becomes permanent! :)

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Hi everyone

 

Two questions for you guys. I currently sign on once per week, with my 35 job activities per week documented on Universal Jobmatch, no problem.

 

1. Can I claim my bus fare for one of those signing on?

 

2. I'm being paid JSA weekly, instead of fortnightly, is that right?

 

Many thanks for your replies.

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1. Can I claim my bus fare for one of those signing on?

2. I'm being paid JSA weekly, instead of fortnightly, is that right?

 

If your signing on schedule is normally every two weeks, then yes you would be able to claim a refund of travel expenses.....

However, that you are being paid JSA on a weekly basis leads me to suspect your signing on schedule is now weekly. Crafty blighters have effectively moved the goalposts on you to avoid having to refund bus fares.

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Many thanks for your help.

 

Yes, I was a little surprised to go from fortnightly payments to weekly payments all of a sudden. I've been signing on weekly for a few weeks and only last week went onto weekly payments.

 

Although I have never had any issues, with attendance, job search recording or attending training, I'm expecting daily signing at the end of the month.

 

If you sign on daily, do you receive a daily payment?

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What are you doing at college?

 

I attend college on a Wednesday & Friday 09:30-16:30. I'm on my second week, so I've only got another 3 days to go...

 

It's for a 3 month temp contract at Dr Oetker (Work Academy). I've been doing my Food Hygiene & Health & Safety etc...

 

Oh, and learning how to make pies and pizzas! So, I'm after a "pizza the action" :lol:

 

 

 

 

~Update~ Job centre told me the job starts at 06:00 hours. When I attended the Interview I was told it starts at 04:20 some weeks.... Changing shift times every week.

 

I live 40 mins away by car which I have (Very unreliable MG lol), and about 2 hours away by public transport. I would need 2 buses & I would need to walk 2 miles... Public transport doesn't start until 6:20am......

 

It looks like the Job centre are desperate to get people into work..... and they're pushing jobs on people by telling lies regarding times.... Or, am i being misinformed???? lol

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had an advisor meeting today and has booked me into a 1 day induction for a 1 month job. induction first followed by food safety level 2 followed by an interview to do 12 hour shifts on a food production line in a cold climate. i am 60 years old waiting to have both knees replaced worn out working on an automotive production line so where do i stand? yes i know on my feet but could i get letter from my doc explaing i can no longer work on a production line?. i told them some time back i cant work on a production line so dont know what they are playing at. any help/advise would be apreciated. :???:

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@ hatsanman.

 

It looks like the JC are making you do the same as me... College for a Food Safety Level 2 certificate etc...

 

You need to book and see your doc ASAP. You obviously have records with your GP stating you have bad knees, and you need them replaced etc...

 

I would firstly pop and see your Advisor, and tell your Advisor your concerns and hopefully they will deal with it, If not...

 

Then tell your Advisor that you're going to speak with your GP and get them to write a letter stating that you can't work stood up due to bad knees etc...

 

 

The Job Centre can't make you work at a place which may cause you any Harm or Injury.

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@ hatsanman.

 

It looks like the JC are making you do the same as me... College for a Food Safety Level 2 certificate etc...

 

You need to book and see your doc ASAP. You obviously have records with your GP stating you have bad knees, and you need them replaced etc...

 

I would firstly pop and see your Advisor, and tell your Advisor your concerns and hopefully they will deal with it, If not...

 

Then tell your Advisor that you're going to speak with your GP and get them to write a letter stating that you can't work stood up due to bad knees etc...

 

 

The Job Centre can't make you work at a place which may cause you any Harm or Injury.

hi i survived 2 years, first of all many thanks for your reply as it put my mind at rest for the first time today. im not a lazy bugger as i work as a volunteer now 3 days per week where im allowed to sit and work. i told my advisor 4 months ago i couldnt work on a production line ever again as thats what wore my knees out working 8 hour shifts in the automotive industry yes on a production line where in the end i was removed by the company nurse.im one of these who let everything get to them and its not doing me any good health wise but thats another story. i feel ive been ignored by my advisor so have an apointment with my doc on monday for steroid injections in my knees so will talk to him about a letter then which when i get will be delivered to my job centre manager and hope he can install it on their computor. i was even under the person who deals with folks with a disabillity at the job centre who said i shouldnt be working at all because there are days when i really find it hard to walk. it just upset me a little to see they take no notice at all of what they have been told so hopefully they will sit up and take notice when i get a letter from my doctor. thanks again mate for calming me down quite a lot :wink:

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It's best to always remain calm if possible, I used to let my JC get me down... They're not worth it!!!...

 

They will do anything they can to get you to sign off, that's what they're employed to do... The whole system is one big vicious circle, only the strong survive!

well i ended up at the hospital at 5.30 this morning extreme depression and anxiety (did i spell that right ) which aparently ive been suffering from for some while . got into my docs on emergency at 9am who quickly gave me a docs note excusing me from production line work and manual handling for 2 weeks untill i get the next one for 8 weeks and so on. i dont usually let things get to me like this but its great to have people like yourself for a bit of reasurance and good words which are much apreciated. will hand my note in monday and hopefull they will get it logged on their pc at the jobcentre.

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I live 40 mins away by car which I have (Very unreliable MG lol), and about 2 hours away by public transport. I would need 2 buses & I would need to walk 2 miles... Public transport doesn't start until 6:20am......

 

Two things:

 

1. You don't have to work outside the hours and days agreed on your Jobseeker's Agreement.

2. You do not have to work anywhere that requires more than 90 minutes travel time by the quickest route available to you. So you could say you have no car, need to use public transport, and therefore, as it takes two hours, can't accept the "offer".

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post work programme support 5 months in : 1 job search form hand-in per week + 1 signing on appointment every 2 weeks

1 month to go and then relax.

 

If only we could relax! The PWPS is effectively permanent now. The Help to Work scheme officially kicks in in April when we have to do 6 months of forced labour or sit in the Jobcentre staring at screens 5 days a week, but there'll be no rest from now on.

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hi i survived 2 years, first of all many thanks for your reply as it put my mind at rest for the first time today. im not a lazy bugger as i work as a volunteer now 3 days per week where im allowed to sit and work. i told my advisor 4 months ago i couldnt work on a production line ever again as thats what wore my knees out working 8 hour shifts in the automotive industry yes on a production line where in the end i was removed by the company nurse.im one of these who let everything get to them and its not doing me any good health wise but thats another story. i feel ive been ignored by my advisor so have an apointment with my doc on monday for steroid injections in my knees so will talk to him about a letter then which when i get will be delivered to my job centre manager and hope he can install it on their computor. i was even under the person who deals with folks with a disabillity at the job centre who said i shouldnt be working at all because there are days when i really find it hard to walk. it just upset me a little to see they take no notice at all of what they have been told so hopefully they will sit up and take notice when i get a letter from my doctor. thanks again mate for calming me down quite a lot :wink:

 

My sympathies. I hope they sort out the people on JSA with reduced capabilities because of injury or illness. I reduced by travel to work time down to 60 minutes each way with an agreement with the Job Centre. I can't do 40 hours a week plus than more 5 hours travelling. I had to reduce my hours to 40 hours a week whilst working when I got to 51. I was too burned out and that was before I was injured and before arthritis.

 

Do the steroid injections work?

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My sympathies. I hope they sort out the people on JSA with reduced capabilities because of injury or illness. I reduced by travel to work time down to 60 minutes each way with an agreement with the Job Centre. I can't do 40 hours a week plus than more 5 hours travelling. I had to reduce my hours to 40 hours a week whilst working when I got to 51. I was too burned out and that was before I was injured and before arthritis.

 

Do the steroid injections work?

yes the steroid injections do work but the pain never goe,s away. my knees just go from under me like one did last night and i ended up falling down the stairs. at least now i have my doctors note which states i cant do work where im standing or lifting so see what they say when i drop that in.
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If only we could relax! The PWPS is effectively permanent now. The Help to Work scheme officially kicks in in April when we have to do 6 months of forced labour or sit in the Jobcentre staring at screens 5 days a week, but there'll be no rest from now on.

pwps is not permanent just for 6 months then you wait untill april and see if the work for your dole starts but even that is only for 6 months.

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yes the steroid injections do work but the pain never goe,s away. my knees just go from under me like one did last night and i ended up falling down the stairs. at least now i have my doctors note which states i cant do work where im standing or lifting so see what they say when i drop that in.

 

I have this is my left elbow so I can suddenly drop things. Nerve conduction study awaited. I may be repetitive strain, cause not really known. Resting my left arm helps.

 

I ask my Doctor for a "Fit Note with reduced capacities" but he refused because it was not in his remit. He would sign a sickness note but not a fit note.

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I have this is my left elbow so I can suddenly drop things. Nerve conduction study awaited. I may be repetitive strain, cause not really known. Resting my left arm helps.

 

I ask my Doctor for a "Fit Note with reduced capacities" but he refused because it was not in his remit. He would sign a sickness note but not a fit note.

my doctor gave me a note instantly and put on it no production line work or lifting. my right knee was the first to go and because i then needed to use my left leg more to get up that went soon after so now both knees are shot. working on a production line in the automotive industry for 5 years was what brought mine about and in my last months was taken off the lines by the company nurse. ihave a note for 2 weeks at the moment but will be extended next time as the only way my knees will get better is if they are replaced but my doc is saying im not old enough for this yet and im 60.
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Just completed a 'rapid reclaim', for the last 4 and half weeks I've been off JSA to avoid MWA to look for work. Feel a bit ill now :(. Hopefully all the effort I have put in will pay off before DWP-JCP put me back on MWA.

 

How long do you reckon I got before they send me onto 'MWA'? A couple of weeks?

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Had to resign on, because I dont think the Bank will tolerate me using the overdraft facility they provided me, much longer without some money coming in :(, argh SIGH.

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my doctor gave me a note instantly and put on it no production line work or lifting. my right knee was the first to go and because i then needed to use my left leg more to get up that went soon after so now both knees are shot. working on a production line in the automotive industry for 5 years was what brought mine about and in my last months was taken off the lines by the company nurse. ihave a note for 2 weeks at the moment but will be extended next time as the only way my knees will get better is if they are replaced but my doc is saying im not old enough for this yet and im 60.

 

Was that a fit to work note with restrictions?

 

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/2584.aspx

 

Your assessment about whether your patient is fit for work is about their fitness for work in general and is not job-specific.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/183249/fitnote-gps-guidance.pdf PS: I do not think much of some of the examples. I found retail stores a reservoir of bullying.

 

I have asked him for another one. If I don't get a reply I am going to get another Doctor.

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