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Renault Rip-off. £320 to change a bulb

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This has obviously been deliberately designed into the car and not come about by accident.

 

 

So do you still love French cars ?

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I remember trying to change a dashboard light on a cavalier once and was fairly convinced when designing the car they had started with this bulb,, then built the rest of the car around it! :lol:

 

Still got it done in the end and to be fair , you would expect a dash bulb to be less accessable than a headlight which you would anticipate failing from time to time.

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On my Punto HGT, you cannot access the rear of n/s headlamp cluster to change any of the bulbs. So Fiat provide 3 easy to remove bolts around the cluster so you can pull it forward enough to do the job.

 

 

Surely Renault could of made it that simple?

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don't think that is the video you intended to link us to sailor sam :)

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There is always the chance Sams Punto could fly, I mean, they made some that could swim. :D

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Opps! Try it now! :doh:


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This has obviously been deliberately designed into the car and not come about by accident.

 

 

So do you still love French cars ?

 

Nothing to do with French cars, the Mitsubishi Galant is virtually the same, the lhs headlight and pilot (daylight ?) bulbs need complete removal of the battery, holder, wiring loom clamps and I believe the front valence around the bonnet. The authorised dealer took the best part of four hours to replace one, luckily under warranty.

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Nothing to do with French cars, the Mitsubishi Galant is virtually the same, the lhs headlight and pilot (daylight ?) bulbs need complete removal of the battery, holder, wiring loom clamps and I believe the front valence around the bonnet. The authorised dealer took the best part of four hours to replace one, luckily under warranty.

 

They replaced a bub under warranty??


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They replaced a bub under warranty??

 

 

No, a bulb :-D

 

I had tried to replace the parking light about a week before one of its many returns to the dealer for a service.

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They replaced a bulb under warranty??

 

BMW do :)

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BMW do :)

 

Didn't know BMW made the Galant! :lol:


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It's the price that you pay for the packaging of the car, low bonnet lines, more interior space and crowded engine bays. There should be legislation that states that consumables such as bulbs should be made replaceable in 30 minutes using only the standard tools supplied with the car.

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I would love to see someone change a headlight bulb with a wheel brace :lol:

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A lot of this is to do with crash/pedestrian impact regulations. LED's should sort the issue out but will take some time to come in.

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Whats that got to do with the price of fish? As the 5th Gear clip shows, the Golf has the same safety rating as the Renault and is no where near as difficult to change the headlamp bulb. Surely Renault could of designed it in a similar way to the Punto whereby the head lamp unit can be pulled forward to access the bulbs?


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I have to state as an owner of the same model of Megane shown in the clip it can only be described as sensationalist journalism. I can change the bulbs on my Megane in about 3-5 minutes with no tools simply by following the instructions in the manual ie turn the wheel into the wheel arch on full lock to allow assess to the access cover for the lights. I admit it is uncomfortable and fiddly but entirely possible and it does not take 30 minutes, which the break down man should be aware of.

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Someone always has to spoil it :D

 

Even if that is true, there must be something else wrong with it because it's a French car, or something French pretending to be a car.

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Someone always has to spoil it :D

 

Haha yes! But of course it is often true. I wanted to put heman dual controls in a BMW and is was deemed so complicated by heman that they dont like selling them as "supply only" and make you sign a disclaimer if they agree to sell them to you. Their preferred option is to fit them for you and they budget 6 hours to fit them (and charge a extortionate price accordingly of course!) Having now done a couple of BMWs, I can get it done in about 2 1/2 hours :)

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In reply to Connif I have now owned 3 Meganes and as a result I have become something on an expert on renault wiring as there is alway something wrong with a Megane but they are still better than Vauxhalls.

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I would love to see someone change a headlight bulb with a wheel brace :lol:

 

I changed a rear bulb in a Mark 1 Fiat Punto recently and used the supplied wheelbrace to undo the nuts holding the rear light cluster in.

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Whats that got to do with the price of fish? As the 5th Gear clip shows, the Golf has the same safety rating as the Renault and is no where near as difficult to change the headlamp bulb. Surely Renault could of designed it in a similar way to the Punto whereby the head lamp unit can be pulled forward to access the bulbs?

 

Has nothing to do with fish Sam. Often it's down to a combination of factors which I point out. Invariably whilst it is to do with crash regs etc they also have to be able to build at rate to make money. This often leads to packaging and access issues but the overiding factor will be the ability to build and how certain units come in. If was designed with user maintenance at the forefront then it could be uneconomical to actually produce the car.

 

It's a very complex thing and something that unless you are actually deeply involved would not understand or be able to comprehend. You might think that by working in a dealership you know what is right and wrong but it just doesn't work like that. The Meganne production line is very clever where they can build multi varients of the brand whereas the punto one is not. Fiat are notably behind with this technology with multiple plants.

 

It's not just a case of design but of manufacturing feasibility as well.

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Clever enough not to be able to produce a car where the headlamp unit can at least be partially removed to allow access to the bulbs? Wow! And Fiat is notably behind with this technology? It that why they CAN produce a car with bulb replacement in mind? You must be right then Helio... I obviously don't understand :lol:


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