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Hi there

 

I would be grateful for some advise as to charges that have been levied by the HCE Group (as well as calling themselves High Court Enforcement Group, they actually ARE High Court Enforcers - I'm sure you will all know this but it has caused some confusion when seeking advice elsewhere).

 

Anyway, I have paid them £1100 so far for a judgement debt of £836 and after complaining to them about valuation and seizure fees when none of my possessions had been levied upon, they removed these charges from the account.

 

 

However, I am now in an ongoing dialogue with them concerning their charges under Rule 12 (miscellaneous) of their Regulations. Basically i'm just getting a load of old flannel from them about the justification for these charges and really I'm getting nowhere.

 

What I would like to know is whether anyone has any advice that can get them off my back for good (other than paying them the remainder of what now merely constitutes their fees of course!) Is there an argument that I can put to them which will get rid of them (maybe a template letter). I DO NOT want them to apply for a detailed assessment hearing as I understand that this will be a nightmare to deal with. I also do not want to reclaim any of the fees that I have already paid, I just want them to accept that I've paid enough and go away!

 

Thanks for any help.:-)

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Technically you have answered your own questions......the only way around this is to take the bill of HCE costs to a detailed assessment BUT I would suggest YOU take the required action and do not leave it to them. Costs to these hearings can be considerably large and this is not an action to be entered into lightly.

 

If you would care to post (minus any personal details) what they are charging for under miscellaneous, we can have a look to see what if anything can be called into question? Other than do what you say and pay them their charges without challenge there is no way forward, you can play letter tennis set and match but you will never reach 'game'. I appreciate this is not what you want to hear but sadly it needs to be said.

 

WD

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So, in other words, despite lots of vitriol concerning the outlandishness of the charges these people add, ultimately they can add as many and whatever charges they like and they cannot be challenged? Sounds about right :-/

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So, in other words, despite lots of vitriol concerning the outlandishness of the charges these people add, ultimately they can add as many and whatever charges they like and they cannot be challenged? Sounds about right :-/

 

Not quite right... if they are charging you for work you know was never carried out ....then you challenge that charge and they must be able to show evidence to how they justify making that charge before a Judge. I have helped others to prepare for a detailed assessment hearing and most have had a degree of success at getting charges thrown out or reduced substantially but there are others on the forum who have only seen small reductions awarded.

 

WD

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Thanks for your advice. I currently have a balance of £250 left to pay - I think in the circumstances I am going to just pay it and be done with them. However to say that nearly £600 in charges galls, is putting it mildly :-/

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Thanks for your advice. I currently have a balance of £250 left to pay - I think in the circumstances I am going to just pay it and be done with them. However to say that nearly £600 in charges galls, is putting it mildly :-/

 

Hold on to yur hat......£600 in charges on a writ of fi'fa is actually very reasonable.....there are HCEO's out there who have charges akin to telephone numbers and can easily turn a debt of £600 into £2500....just take a look around the forum and you will then have good reason to be horrified..

Good Luck and at least once paid you can breathe easily even with the heartburn :lol:

 

WD

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If I may stick my oar in.

 

Did you know all about the original CCJ? I appreciate you appear to have a breakdown of the fees they have charged but have you served a Subject Access Request on HCE?


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