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2 year old orange phone debt and lowells DCA - default removal


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Hi all,

 

I recently got hold of my credit report and was happy to see that it doesn't contain any old debts which are over 6 years old.

 

However, I have a 2 year old mobile phone debt that has been passed to a DCA that I would like to pay off and that is showing on my report.

 

The problem is the same agency is still chasing me for another debt even though I haven't contacted them for over 6 years (maybe 10) but this one does not show on my report.

 

My questions are

1) if i pay the phone debt will they then be able to stick the other debt back on my credit report and / or pursue me for it?

 

2) will other DCAs also come out of the woodwork sniffing around for some cash?

 

My main point here is that I'd like to get my credit rating back to good or at least normal (I'm less worried about threatening letters since the debt is well over 6 years old).

 

Thank you!

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Q 1) No.

 

Q 2) Who cares?

 

Even if you pay the 2 year old moby phone debt it will remain on your credit file for six years, and DO NOT pay the DCA (who is it) Pay the OC direct.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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YES

 

but it wont get rid of the default.

 

tell us about the debt

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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If Lowell are involved, the account has probably been sold. Have you ever received a notice of assignment? Who is shown as administering the debt on your credit report?

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Yes. My report says it is Lowell. If I contact them about this debt I don't want them to open the case regarding the old one. I am not sure why they just don't attach a payment slip to the letter.

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because you never PAY a dca ever

 

tel us about the debt please

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Account Type: Communications Started: 17/04/2010 Default Date: 19/04/2011 Default Balance: £929

 

The debt is showing on my credit report as an 8 (The account is in 'default'. You failed to keep to your credit agreement and have not responded satisfactorily to requests to bring your payments up to date, so the credit agreement has ended.)

 

Orange said they no longer have the debt and it has been sold.

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Have you received a notice of assignment?

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Not necessarily. May have come from Lowell. It would have stated that your account has been sold to Lowell. Could come from either company.

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Account Type: Communications Started: 17/04/2010 Default Date: 19/04/2011 Default Balance: £929

 

The debt is showing on my credit report as an 8 (The account is in 'default'. You failed to keep to your credit agreement and have not responded satisfactorily to requests to bring your payments up to date, so the credit agreement has ended.)

 

Orange said they no longer have the debt and it has been sold.

 

i would suspect there is something wrong with the account

 

they rarely sell anything but lemon debts.

 

how the hel did you run up £1k debt in 24months?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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Account Type: Communications Started: 17/04/2010 Default Date: 19/04/2011 Default Balance: £929

 

The debt is showing on my credit report as an 8 (The account is in 'default'. You failed to keep to your credit agreement and have not responded satisfactorily to requests to bring your payments up to date, so the credit agreement has ended.)

 

I thought moby debts were a service agreement not a credit agreement? Or am I missing something?

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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thats prob just a std 'explaination' by default by the cra FAQ

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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thats prob just a std 'explaination' by default by the cra FAQ

 

dx

 

Cheers...sorry :focus::ranger:

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Hi all,

 

I can't find the letter to say that it has been sold to a dca

but I'm pretty sure I had one and just threw it away, my mistake.

 

Hamptons (?) have been trying to contact me so I assume they have the debt now.

 

I ran up 1k in phone bills due to crazy data roaming tariffs and over seas calls when I was working.

 

Someone I know was recently declined a mortgage due to an unpaid phone bill that appeared on his credit report.

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the owner will be listed on the cra file.

 

if orange have sold it

they know its a lemon debt

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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just click the underlined SAR

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

 

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

 

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

 

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

 

 

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