Universal Credit - Monthly

[bcham]

does this mean we sign on monthly instead of every fortnight,

[count orlok]

Housing Associations depend on payment of rent to get funding to build new houses and get money for large capital expenses. Because (at the moment) rent receipts are guaranteed they get favourable interest rates. When UC come in their income will be at risk and they will lose finance and what they do get will cost more. I believe the figures will result in a 8% drop in the housing supply!

[pandaspot]

Housing associations are also going to lose money due to the social sector size criteria (bedroom tax) from April as well. They will face huge loses and councils housing as well.

 

Ha and la's will be able to get direct payment under special circumstances the same as private tenants at the moment

[count orlok]

I've just had a thought. The reasoning behind making UC monthly could be twofold. They say it is to prepare people for the world of work, it could also be a snide kick in the teeth letting people know what sort of money they would get if there were any jobs

 

 

Not quite sure how giving a person a weeks money and expecting them to make it last a month prepares them for work, but i could imagine a months benefits would be about equal to a weeks pay when in work.

[estellyn]

Personally, I think that for JSA claimants, monthly pay is actually a good idea. When I was on JSA a couple of times, I know how hard it was lasting a month and a half from my last JSA payment to my first wage payment. Monthly JSA would have made the transition into work much easier. Anyone on JSA should be expecting to have to budget monthly once employed. But I do think there should be a proper transition for existing claimants. With regards to those on IS, ESA, child tax credits I have reservations over whether those who are vulnerable will get the help they need - I also think there's no point unless the person is ready to transition into work to pay them monthly. Maybe on ESA if someone is ready to consider work.

[scotgal68]

Some families on benefits can get over £500 a week, if you're out working, the employer doesn't pay you according to your circumstances, you get paid your wages regardless of family size, disabilities etc. I don't get paid that for knocking my pan in and dealing with people who would take my head off, given half a chance.

[flumps1976]

@bcham no current guidance is that you will still be required to attend to sign once a fortnight, the same as it is now

[Nystagmite]

Some families on benefits can get over £500 a week, if you're out working, the employer doesn't pay you according to your circumstances, you get paid your wages regardless of family size, disabilities etc. I don't get paid that for knocking my pan in and dealing with people who would take my head off, given half a chance.

 

But if you're on a low income and work, you can claim benefits. I'm not sure I get your point here? You can't compare a single person circumstance to that of a family with children.

[scotgal68]

What single person are you referring to? I was responding to another post about 'what sort of money they would get if there were jobs out there'

My point is there is a culture of not taking work because it pays better being on benefits, I'm not saying everyone subscribes to that culture but it is there. That is all.

[Nystagmite]

It sounded as you were moaning that a family can get £500 a week in benefits; but you as a single person get nowhere near that for work.

[estellyn]

What single person are you referring to? I was responding to another post about 'what sort of money they would get if there were jobs out there'

My point is there is a culture of not taking work because it pays better being on benefits, I'm not saying everyone subscribes to that culture but it is there. That is all.

 

But that usually isn't about benefits being high, but about wages being too low and costs of things like travel being very high. We know that wages are too low because they need to be subsidised by benefits in order for people to be able to afford to live.

 

Or is someone supposed to take a job where they will be £100 a month worse off due to travel costs and other expenses?

[scotgal68]

I understand what you're saying Estellyn, it's a difficult situation to get out of. I don't think benefits are too high either. It does cost money to work, I know and its a sore one x

[scotgal68]

Me as a single person?

[RaeUK]

... I don't get paid that for knocking my pan in ...

I'm ever so sorry to ask, but what does this mean?

[antone]

I'm ever so sorry to ask, but what does this mean?

 

Something like "working very hard".