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    • love the extra £1000 charge for confidentialy there BF   Also OP even if they don't offer OOC it doesn't mean your claim isn't good. I had 3 against EVRi that were heard over the last 3 weeks. They sent me emails asking me to discontinue as I wouldn't win. Went infront of a judge and won all 3.    Just remember the law is on your side. The judges will be aware of this.   Where you can its important to try to point out at the hearing the specific part of the contract they breached. I found this was very helpful and the Judge made reference to it when they gave their judgements and it seemed this was pretty important as once you have identified a specific breach the matter turns straight to liability. From there its a case of pointing out the unlawfullness of their insurance and then that should be it.
    • I know dx and thanks again for yours and others help. I was 99.999% certain last payment was over six years ago if not longer.  👍
    • Paragraph 23 – "standard industry practice" – put this in bold type. They are stupid to rely on this and we might as well carry on emphasising how stupid they are. I wonder why they could even have begun to think some kind of compelling argument – "the other boys do it so I do it as well…" Same with paragraph 26   Paragraph 45 – The Defendants have so far been unable to produce any judgements at any level which disagree with the three judgements…  …court, but I would respectfully request…   Just the few amendments above – and I think it's fine. I think you should stick to the format that you are using. This has been used lots of times and has even been applauded by judges for being meticulous and clear. You aren't a professional. Nobody is expecting professional standards and although it's important that you understand exactly what you are doing – you don't really want to come over to the judge that you have done this kind of thing before. As a litigant in person you get a certain licence/leeway from judges and that is helpful to you – especially if you are facing a professional advocate. The way this is laid out is far clearer than the mess that you will get from EVRi. Quite frankly they undermine their own credibility by trying to say that they should win simply because it is "standard industry practice". It wouldn't at all surprise me if EVRi make you a last moment offer of the entire value of your claim partly to avoid judgement and also partly to avoid the embarrassment of having this kind of rubbish exposed in court. If they do happen to do that, then you should make sure that they pay everything. If they suddenly make you an out-of-court offer and this means that they are worried that they are going to lose and so you must make sure that you get every penny – interest, costs – everything you claimed. Finally, if they do make you an out-of-court offer they will try to sign you up to a confidentiality agreement. The answer to that is absolutely – No. It's not part of the claim and if they want to settle then they settle the claim as it stands and don't try add anything on. If they want confidentiality then that will cost an extra £1000. If they don't like it then they can go do the other thing. Once you have made the amendments suggested above – it should be the final version. court,. I don't think we are going to make any more changes. Your next job good to make sure that you are completely familiar with it all. That you understand the arguments. Have you made a court familiarisation visit?
    • just type no need to keep hitting quote... as has already been said, they use their own criteria. if a person is not stated as linked to you on your file then no cant hurt you. not all creditors use every CRA provider, there are only 3 main credit file providers mind, the rest are just 3rd party data sharers. if you already have revolving credit on your file there is no need to apply for anything just 'because' you need to show you can handle money. if you have bank account(s) and a mortgage which you are servicing (paying) then nothing more can improve your score, despite what these 'scam' sites claiml  its all a CON!!  
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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We had exactly the same problem have just been stung for charges, paid the bill of £415 in full this morning still threatening us with pre payment meter as they now have a warrant, the letter to state this was sent over Xmas period ( very convenient) so we had days to try and sort this amount of money ! We have stayed in constant contact with them and us once the £415 was paid in full we could call it quits and change suppliers! To be told this morning it had gone up to £538! Over night ????? Just crazy and they are making their own rules!

 

Yes we owed money to them we hit financial difficulty like many, just beware they don't care how many times you try and catch up, how many calls even to the managers. They are like loan sharks they just don't 'care'. All agents we spoke to were rude and condescending to the point I was accused of being ' thick'!!!! We are taking it further as we have been treated disgustingly and to reduce people to tears on the phone is awful!

We can't wait to get rid and we advise any body thinking of changing to them, DON'T .........

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We had exactly the same problem have just been stung for charges, paid the bill of £415 in full this morning still threatening us with pre payment meter as they now have a warrant, the letter to state this was sent over Xmas period ( very convenient) so we had days to try and sort this amount of money ! We have stayed in constant contact with them and us once the £415 was paid in full we could call it quits and change suppliers! To be told this morning it had gone up to £538! Over night ????? Just crazy and they are making their own rules!

 

Yes we owed money to them we hit financial difficulty like many, just beware they don't care how many times you try and catch up, how many calls even to the managers. They are like loan sharks they just don't 'care'. All agents we spoke to were rude and condescending to the point I was accused of being ' thick'!!!! We are taking it further as we have been treated disgustingly and to reduce people to tears on the phone is awful!

We can't wait to get rid and we advise any body thinking of changing to them, DON'T .........

 

A wise decision to consider dumping them. Are the charges based on actual reads or estimates. When changing which takes between 4 and 6 weeks, make sure that you take a reading the day before changing. Can I also suggest that you pay the £10 and request a SAR which should show all bills and any other correspondence including transcripts of phone calls relating to your account unless of course you still have all correspondence and bills from day one? You may find that you have been billed incorrectly.

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Hi thanks for you're reply, we have proof which we have sent to them regarding over payment one bill jumped from£143.66 from £42 per month this was in July summer month wherever only use boiler for shower? Twice daily we couldn't get our heads round this amount of usage, no reply from them still charged us this is where we started to struggle as well as redundancy, they don't listen to sob stories though, their words!!!

 

We will request a SAR thanks for the info we may get somewhere now.

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Hopefully it was a true reading and not an estimate read as you could end up paying for consumption by the previous tenant especially if ti was under read.

Calculate the units used between switching and now and multiply that figure by cost per unit taking into consideration any increased costs per unit. If E7 do two calculations. Calculate the standing charge per day multiply by number of days in property. Add the two together to get a total and compare it to what you have paid in.

Let us know if there is a vast difference or whether they are more or less correct.

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Fab thanks will get hubby on the case with readings tonight and see what we come up with!

It's just that horrible gut feeling when you know you have been ripped off but struggle to prove it with all the loop holes!

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Fab thanks will get hubby on the case with readings tonight and see what we come up with!

It's just that horrible gut feeling when you know you have been ripped off but struggle to prove it with all the loop holes!

 

I am hoping that amongst all the papers is a letter from UW stating the cost per unit. If they did not notify you of any increases but did charge you, they are skating on very thin ice to justify charging you without notifying yourselves. You may need the SAR if you cannot find any correspondence relating to an increase.

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