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    • One very useful admission to obtain from them in a recorded call would be to get them to admit that they hadn't informed you in advance as to the cost of the car rental. So for instance – "I'm just calling to find out what the cost of the car rental is because when you first approached me, it wasn't explained. I'm just want to find out so I can start arranging to pay how much I owe you." Something like that. The point is somehow or other to get them to acknowledge that they hadn't told you the rate at the time. It's an implied term of any contract the services that where no price has been agreed – then a reasonable price will be implied. Clearly you are not being asked to pay a reasonable price
    • Just to add, if you can start recording your calls then telephone conversations might be very useful because you may well be able to steer the conversation into some useful admissions. For instance, you might be able to get them to refer to the earlier conversations and what was said in them. This kind of thing would be gold dust. I think you can see that you have been tricked by aggressive salespeople – and it's up to you to start becoming a bit aggressive and assertive – and tricky – yourself.
    • Also, SAR to everyone else. I've already asked you to do this on the other thread. Also, no more phone calls unless you have read our customer services guide and implemented the advice there. Follow the customer services guide link or else click on it as it passes through the running banner at the top of the forum page
    • Presumably you have got the name and address of the van driver. Do you have the insurance details of the van driver? We need to start getting hold of other people statements. It's extremely unfair that Skippy are making decisions on your behalf and not showing you any of the so-called – evidence – or lack of evidence that they apparently know about. I'm a bit concerned that in your account though you talk about driving along at 30 miles an hour and then after the accident you talk about driving "slowly". What kind of van was it? Do you know what I was doing there? Was it there because the driver was working or is that where they live?    Was there a passenger in the van? What about the road conditions? You say that there was ice and snow but was it dark? Did people have their lights on? Did the van driver have his lights on?  
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What to include in an appeal letter?

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Merry Xmas all (not for me).


I was dismissed not long ago and believe you me it was a a complete farce.


I am currently seeking legal advice and was wondering what information I NEED to include in my appeal letter? The reason I ask is because I am reluctant to showing my hand at this stage so to speak. The company has already proven to conjur up a case to support their stance and by giving them my detailed reasons for appeal, I would be giving them an early Christmas pressie to wrap and seal me up.


If anyone has any links to any template letters, I would be grateful.




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From whom are you seeking legal advice? Presumabley they have more details of specifics than you have given here and so are better placed to advise?

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Ive called a few employment law solicitors for a callback so I am in the very early stages however, Id like to put the company on notice that I would like to appeal without going into full details. Do I have to write the letter in a particular format and include specfics?

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Dear x,


further to your letter of (date) I hereby confirm that I wish to appeal the dismissal on grounds of xxx.


I have supporting documentation which I wish to present at the appeal meeting.


Please advise of the proposal date/time asap so I can confirm my union representative will be able to attend.



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You need to be aware that their will be a time limit for appealing after the dismissal and have you been informed of this, in fact were you infomed of your right to appeal after the disciplinary hearing.


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