Jump to content

 

BankFodder BankFodder


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • You haven't told us anything about the vehicle in terms of the make model mileage – price paid et cetera. Also where was it advertised and what the advertisement say? On the basis of what you have told us, you should have no problem asserting rights whether or not you are dealing with a trader or a private seller. However it would be helpful if it was a trader – and you say that it is and that you have evidence. The problem is, whether they trade. Do they have any seizable assets? You obviously dealing with somebody who is going to be very slippery even if you get a court judgement against them. Do you know where they live? Do they and their own property? And I suppose it won't be much of a comfort to you but it may be instructive to others when I say that you have managed to acquire all this evidence – but what a shame you didn't go about this before you parted with your money rather than afterwards.
    • Brillliant reply from Caroline Voaden MEP on Twitter.   Who will hold these people to account asks @june_mummery ? She has also asked if she can come back to attend fisheries com mtgs. Thing is June you wanted to leave. You wanted us to have no voice here, to go it alone. You all crow about your ‘win’. This is what it means. Well done
    • Thank you. What you have suggested about a motor trader had occurred and yes she has been naive about this. They were sufficiently satisfied to purchase the car and they did know about the problem. She had been driving it up until the morning of the sale with no problems and she had told them about the oil leak - it's otherwise in very good condition, has a long MOT and has been serviced regularly. There's also the issue of insurance should she accept return (she transferred insurance to her new car )
    • June Mummery, a Brexit Party MEP, has just woken up to the fact that leaving Europe gives us less control over fisheries. From her Twitter feed.   Attending the penultimate session of the #EuropeanParliament’s #FisheriesCommittee #PECHcommittee) with #BritishMEPs. The big question now is, who will be here to hold these people to account while they still control Britain’s waters, but the UK has no representation?
    • I'm afraid my response is going to be a bit more doom and gloom than my site team colleague. I'm afraid the principle of "buyer beware" is a pretty old principle and it doesn't always protect the private seller. However, I think you will have to wait and see what they come back to you about in writing. My understanding so far – as you don't even seem to know their address or who they are – is that everything has been done on the telephone. If they decide to come back at you in writing with a list of defects and am afraid we will have to look at it carefully because although you won't be particularly affected by consumer protection legislation, there are still basic rules of contract which could protect the purchaser. I'm sorry also to give a bit of a slapped wrist here, because the selling of vehicle in the circumstances without even ascertaining the identity of the purchaser and without keeping the necessary documents to inform the DVLA of the new ownership is highly irresponsible. I suppose this is going to put the frighteners on you – but you had better be aware of the possibilities. The first thing that occurs to me is that this vehicle may have been bought by a trader who was anxious not to add any more owners to the vehicle because that would reduce the value even more. Therefore you might have some fairly unscrupulous trader selling your vehicle on to another private purchaser who themselves may not properly register the vehicle so that if it attracts any parking fines or any other attention from agencies, could come back to you as you are the registered owner. You would be able to deal with this problem eventually but it would certainly be complicated. Also an extreme scenario is that the vehicle could eventually be used for unlawful purposes – and once again the registration leads back to you. I think that your daughter had better read the thread and had better take the lesson. As I have said, the use of the vehicle for some unlawful purpose is probably an extreme idea and is unlikely to happen. However, the idea that the vehicle has been bought by trader who wants to conceal the fact that it has had an additional purchaser – him/herself – is a highly possible scenario. You haven't told us anything about the vehicle – what is it, model, make, mileage, condition, price, – and also how was advertised, where was advertise, and what claims did you make for it. I do hope you don't hear anything more about this problem that you better give us all the information and if there is any fallout as a result of what your daughter is done then of course come back here and will it be very pleased to try and help you. In the meantime I would suggest that you contact DVLA and tell them that you have now parted company with the vehicle and that it is no longer yours. Even though you won't be able to give them the address of the new owner, you will be able to give them the name and you had better put it on record. I'm not sure if it's an offence not to have the details of the new owner and to pass them on to DVLA – but I would suggest anyway, that you tell DVLA. Before you start doing this though, standby for maybe one or two other people to contribute to this thread and to disagree with me. I think you need to have a range of opinions on this.   One further thing – you may be tempted simply to take the vehicle back – but unfortunately you won't be able to be certain that it is in exactly the same condition as it was when you sold it. This could give you another problem that may be if you decide to cut your losses and tell the purchaser to return the vehicle, you may not be completely happy when you receive it – and they will simply be a dispute as to what has happened to it during its absence
  • Our picks

Kakazam

Help understanding CCTV laws.

style="text-align:center;"> Please note that this topic has not had any new posts for the last 2584 days.

If you are trying to post a different story then you should start your own new thread. Posting on this thread is likely to mean that you won't get the help and advice that you need.

If you are trying to post information which is relevant to the story in this thread then please flag it up to the site team and they will allow you to post.

Thank you

Recommended Posts

Hey I'm currently facing disciplinary action at work and was looking through the previous posts on this site regarding the law with recording and watching members of staff.

 

A few weeks ago I was put under investigation over taking an 'unofficial break' during work hours.

 

I was in my department, had finished the majority of my work, it was a quiet day and the cameras had supposedly seen me sitting on the floor doing no work

(sitting on the floor is quite common with many staff due to the bottom shelves being hard to reach while standing).

 

I work for a large retail company who hire an external security company to monitor the cameras

and have been told that the managers of the store are not allowed to use the cameras to monitor members of staff in order to discipline them;

the cameras are there for security purposes.

 

However, I find myself in a position where the camera has caught me not working for a short period of time

and due to me sitting on the floor security have notified a member of management.

 

My problem is that I'm 99% sure and as are most of my colleagues that managers have been using the cameras to catch members of staff not working.

Yet in over three years of working for the company I have never heard of this action being taken place before.

Not only that but it is common for members of staff to be standing around for up to half an hour at a time doing nothing yet no action has been taken by security to notify management.

 

Is there any sort of way I have had my rights breached?

 

If management are allowed to watch cameras and use them to take action am I being picked on due to nobody else having this action taken upon them considering

I have a rocky relationship with some managers?

 

Thanks for any information

John.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You need to look at the stated purpose(s) for which CCTV is installed. All data subjects must be informed that they are being monitored, and the purposes for which monitoring is necessary. You should have a clause in your contract, company handbook, or an accessible notice which states that CCTV is installed for purposes X, Y and Z - usually detection and prevention of crime, health & safety and staff monitoring. Any use of CCTV must be proportionate and relevant.

 

Crime prevention and health & safety are normally a given, and the latter will normally permit for a degree of 'incidental' staff monitoring. Of course if CCTV demonstrates that staff are not working then management will inevitably act on this, and that would almost certainly be lawful.

 

Unfortunately the fact that you have been 'caught' and others have not is not in itself a defence - you will have to try and prove that others are equally guilty and that the management know of this and are turning a blind eye - that and the fact that the amount of work is insufficient? You could try a challenge on the basis that their data protection registration does not permit the use of CCTV for staff monitoring, or that such use constitutes a breach of your human right to privacy, but that could well be a long and fruitless road.


Any advice given is done so on the assumption that recipients will also take professional advice where appropriate.

 

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

DONATE HERE

 

If I have been helpful in any way - please feel free to click on the STAR to the left!

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi

 

I would also write to HR of the company (always get proof of posting and keep a good paper trail) and request the following doucments:

 

(Now do not accept if they say its in the Employees Handbook as this will mostly be a shortened version of the actual documents, you want the full unedited versions. Also when you get these check the date they were approved and importantly the date they are next due review)

 

1. Disciplinary and Grievance Policy and Procedure. ( You want both)

2. CCTV Policy and Procedure. (You want both)

 

Also check your Contract of Employment for any reference to CCTV, and whether you may have signed a disclaimer for the CCTV to be sure.

 

These PDFs may be of some help to you:

Edited by stu007

How to Upload Documents/Images on CAG - **INSTRUCTIONS CLICK HERE**

FORUM RULES - Please ensure to read these before posting **FORUM RULES CLICK HERE**

I cannot give any advice by PM - If you provide a link to your Thread then I will be happy to offer advice there.

I advise to the best of my ability, but I am not a qualified professional, benefits lawyer nor Welfare Rights Adviser.

Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks very much for the information. I will have a read through the attached files and request the information I need today. As for proof that other people do the same I will use my friend who is a supervisor as a witness at my disciplinary hearing who can reassure them this is something almost every member of staff does.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"what everybody else does" usually falls on deaf ears when trying to defend yourself, how long were you sat on your posterior?

Edited by Atlas01
sp
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's fine now, I spoke to them today and I think they may have been spooked by me asking about legal documents. They aren't willing to take it any further and just put a note in my file to say I had spoken to them.

 

Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated, not only by me but also other members of staff regarding procedures.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi

 

Kaz its a pleasure to have been of assistance and as long as your happy with the outcome thats the main thing.

 

Oh something to remember in case this issue with the CCTV comes up again since they have this they would also need to be registered as a Data Controller.


How to Upload Documents/Images on CAG - **INSTRUCTIONS CLICK HERE**

FORUM RULES - Please ensure to read these before posting **FORUM RULES CLICK HERE**

I cannot give any advice by PM - If you provide a link to your Thread then I will be happy to offer advice there.

I advise to the best of my ability, but I am not a qualified professional, benefits lawyer nor Welfare Rights Adviser.

Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bit of jargon mentioned and a quick step back, nicely resolved in an instant!!! Happy Christmas.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    No registered users viewing this page.


  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...