@britishgashelp Urgent - Warrent of Entry BG

[AnimalMagic]

might not be then.

Might not be what...?

you need to get all the details of what this sum is.

 

can you not look at your account online?

 

dx

Not as far as I know - never had an online account with them.

 

The outstanding amount demanded previously, added up to the gas bills that were in dispute.

 

This was paid, so there cannot be any amount for gas used in the current sum.

 

No further gas was used in the interim (as shown by meter readings),

 

so I can only assume these are charges for the three warrants they have attempted to obtain.

 

However, the fees specified for a warrant times 3 don't add up to the amount.

[renegadeimp]

He means it could be a dca chasing you and not bg

[AnimalMagic]

I'm lost as to the relevance. I have a hearing in a few days and need to have a response... Please...

[dx100uk]

anyone with a BG account can access it online via the bg website.

 

if they are taking your to court

then there must be a breakdown of what the debt is.

in their papers sent to the court, of which you are entitled to a copy.

 

you need to tell us the ful story

 

as you are talking in riddle here and making us guess what has happened before.

 

debt collection 'fees' are an unlawful penalty

warrant fees are not.

 

dx

 

 

how can you have 3 warrant fees?

[45002]

Hello again AnimalMagic

 

Can Gas Supplier obtain a Warrant of Entry for Debt Collection Charges Only?

 

It was my understanding that they could only obtain a warrant for actual gas usage, not debt collection charges...

 

All Gas usage has been paid for and we have proof of payment.

 

Any references to law/precedents would be appreciated...

What are theses proof of payments you have !

 

Define Debt collection charges.

 

 

I can't.

 

A couple of months back I paid an amount demanded by BG when they issued a warning

that they were going to obtain a warrant, even though I had already previously paid (this is being dealt with separately).

 

I informed them of the payment by various means and got an acknowledgement that they had received the notification.

Nonetheless I attended court and found that they were still applying for a warrant. It was immediately withdrawn.

 

Soon afterwards I started getting calls from Indian sounding gentlemen (and I use that word generously).

 

I repeatedly told them nothing was owed and to stop harrassing me.

 

After several weeks I received a letter demanding over £400.

 

This is a different amount from the previous attempt.

 

No Gas has been used in the interim (as shown by meter reading),

so I can only assume it is debt collection fees.

Might not be what...?

 

Not as far as I know - never had an online account with them.

 

The outstanding amount demanded previously, added up to the gas bills that were in dispute.

 

This was paid, so there cannot be any amount for gas used in the current sum.

 

No further gas was used in the interim (as shown by meter readings),

 

so I can only assume these are charges for the three warrants they have attempted to obtain.

 

However, the fees specified for a warrant times 3 don't add up to the amount.

 

I'm lost as to the relevance. I have a hearing in a few days and need to have a response... Please...

 

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Please have a read of OP previous encounters with BG

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?376586-Urgent-Warrent-of-Entry-BG

Edited September 25, 2013 by 45002

[AnimalMagic]

in their papers sent to the court, of which you are entitled to a copy.

If you know anything about this you would know that they don't supply anything before the hearing other than a letter demanding payment.

how can you have 3 warrant fees?

They have applied three times for a warrant.

The first I was not notified. They withdrew after I contacted the CEO.

The second they withdrew on the day, after I attended with documentation showing I had paid.

The third is the one which is about to be heard.

What are theses proof of payments you have !

A bank statement showing payment to BG for the full amount demanded at the previous warrant hearing. There does not appear to be any dispute that this has been paid. The amount this time is different and smaller than that previous amount. I also have a gas bill which shows zero gas was used in the interim.

[45002]

If you know anything about this you would know that they don't supply anything before the hearing other than a letter demanding payment.

 

They have applied three times for a warrant.

The first I was not notified. They withdrew after I contacted the CEO.

The second they withdrew on the day, after I attended with documentation showing I had paid.

The third is the one which is about to be heard.

 

A bank statement showing payment to BG for the full amount demanded at the previous warrant hearing. There does not appear to be any dispute that this has been paid. The amount this time is different and smaller than that previous amount. I also have a gas bill which shows zero gas was used in the interim.

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I'm lost as to the relevance. I have a hearing in a few days and need to have a response... Please...

A hearing for what exactly, another warrant ?

 

Reading your previous again http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?376586-Urgent-Warrent-of-Entry-BG

 

There is clearly more to this than meets the eye !

[dx100uk]

threads merged

 

dx

[AnimalMagic]

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A hearing for what exactly, another warrant ?

Yes.

 

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There is clearly more to this than meets the eye !

Huh?

[AnimalMagic]

Warrant was withdrawn when I showed up at court to defend...

[AnimalMagic]

It was a BG rep who was at the court. BG rep stated that he wasn't able to apply for a warrant if no gas bill was outstanding. In other words, they cannot apply for a warrant for warrant fees or debt collection fees only. There must be at least some gas bill outstanding...

 

The (mis)information provided by site team member dx100uk in post #29, implying they could collect warrant fees, is wrong, or at least misleading...

[dx100uk]

good noews then

 

badly written if anything wrong with post 29.

 

what I am saying is that any debt collection fees are an unlawful penalty charges

 

warrant fees are a legit charge

 

if/if not they were collectable via a warrant I made no comment, no idea!

 

dx

[AnimalMagic]

Just had another letter from BG - they're going for another warrant of entry... No other correspondence...

[renegadeimp]

I think you need to go right to the top of the chain now AM. This is getting ridiculous. It sounds as if your account is stuck in a 'loop' in their system, and the idiots at BG are not smart enough to simply click one button and remove it.

 

This legal action is normally automated and the system simply throws it to the relevant department to sign off on.

[AnimalMagic]

It's already been past the CEO. Perhaps I should start attending church to take it higher

I think though, given that the last BG Rep went to the trouble of visiting my home about a week ago to read the meter, and was shown that no gas was owing, it is now very much into the realm of fraud and harassment...

[renegadeimp]

You need the personal intervention of the ceo and not his ' executive team'.

 

Failing that, its time to head to ofgem, watchdog, various media outlets

[AnimalMagic]

Application rejected by magistrate. BG rep unable to explain alleged debt.

[citizenB]

This is good news indeed

[new-me2010]

If I were in your shoes AM I would be sending off a SAR request on Monday to BG

 

Then when it arrives I would read everything more than once use plenty of highlighter

and then go for the jugulars. hit them where it hurts. In their pocket.