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Have just had a long missive fromone 'Brian Smith' solicitor and I shall be posting my reply for blessings (or otherwise) before despatch. However (there's always one of those!) he does quote a case "Kissick v Citifinancial Europe plc" where he maintains that the 'fairness' of the £12 was put to the test - not found wanting - case dismissed. I am presuming (hate the word) that this might have been at Salford County Court since he (Smith) already promises to 'exercise the defendant's right to have the claim transferred to its home court' ; he then names Salford County Court. Any advice on 'Kissick etc' please or can someone give me a steer on how to find out? Did they REALLY manage to get one 'over the wire' whilst we weren't lookin'??

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I got the same letter (similar).


Think that case was one where he had not prepared and lost for that reason only. Someone elsew should know for sure.


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Thanks folks.

In view of Martin's and LTWFB's comments on "Citi repayment..."thread ~157 et al, it might be foolish for me to publish a 'blow by blow' response for "all" to see; in the first instance I shall PM Martin3030 and LTWFB if that is acceptable?

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Hi - don't worry. Brian is sending that letter to everyone trying to put them off.


He can't have the case transferred to Salford as Citi is a company and the claimant, as an individual will have the case heard at their own home court.


PM Martin3030 if you need any advice on the wording as Citi monitor these threads (and print them out and then try to - unsuccessfully - use parts of them in hearings, as I know to my experience)


lickthewallfatboy will also be able to help with what is currently happening.

Abbey - Claim 1

full hearing 22 Feb 07 - Settled in full £710 :D

Abbey (Claim 2)

full hearing 22 Feb 07- Settled in full £4000 :D

Abbey (Claim 3)

Court date 27 June -

Capital One (claim 1)

£467 Settled in full 20 Sep :D

Capital One (claim 2)

£72 refunded 19 Aug :-D

Associates (Citicards)

claim 8 Aug/judgment by default 30 Aug/set aside hearing 9 Oct/Stay denied, ordered by Judge to reveal breakdown of charges andfull hearing 24 May/FULL DISCLOSURE ORDERED BY 8 MARCH/JUDGE TO STRIKE OUT DEFENCE AS NON-COMPLIANCE/DEFENCE STRUCK OUT PAYMENT IN FULL REQUIRED IN 14 DAYS

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Indeed. Citi may well have put that to the test - in a CLOSED hearing without the claimant being privy to the information - either BEFORE, or indeed at the court.


There are things afoot ;-)


Also, they have been ordered to disclose in another court since then, so time will tell ;-)


Personally, I would continue as before. If they want to play this game, then fair play. We're more determined than their solicitors are paid, if you catch my drift. Enjoy it!


Plus, other things are afoot regarding their access to this forum ;-)


(Maybe they should have read the rules :-) )

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Received a letter from Brian Smith last week. His letter stated that the OFT ruling does not apply to mortgages and they think their charges are fair and they will not be giving me anything back.


This is on an account they say they cannot trace.


Whether or not they find the account dosen't really bother me as there is a default attached to the account which I want rid of, so either way I will be a winner.

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These guys just get funnier, it was the OFT statement which drew everyones attention to the charges issue. Even before that you could have deemed any charge which resulted in a profit as unlawful.


Kennyh, you should also be made aware that Citi will most likely try and persuade you that you are due more or less than the total amounts on your spreadsheet. Its a tactic they have tried with 6+ of us on here.

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