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Hi all - I've successfully claimed from MBNA for missold PPI - incredibly easy so I thought I'd have a go at Barclaycard.

 

I submitted SAR and got 6 years of statements showing my PPI active from 2006 - 2007 when I cancelled it (I realised it was a pointless expense).

 

However I noted PPI has been on the account since 1989.

 

Now initially BC turned down the complaint so I went to the FOS and strangely they've caved in as soon as the FOS process was started.

 

I've received a letter from the FOS telling me I will receive an offer by the 4/1/13

however I'm not sure what a fair offer would be - ie will it only be for the year I can show PPI payments or should it include the payments back to 1989?

 

As I can't prove how much I paid can I be paid an amount based on a average yearly balance etc and do barclays keep records like that?

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Did you not prepare your own Spreadsheet ?

 

If you have your statements, you can still do this.. I have attached a spreadsheet below.

 

They should actually send you a breakdown of the premiums and interest they are paying with the offer.. if not, you can request this before accepting.

 

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I'm afraid I didn't do spreadsheet and fos have the statements. But what I'm interested in really is whether I'll be credited with the ppi payments from 1989 to 2006 that I couldn't get statements for?

 

In theory you should be- you have paid these premiums when you shouldnt have.

 

There have been reports where people have indeed received the premiums from way back.. I think the most recent one was the Co-op where the claimant was repaid from 1995 !!

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?367801-PPI-on-Co-Op-Loans-from-1995-96-%2A%2AWON%2A%2A-%A33k

 

However, there have been instances where unless the claimant is able to back up their claim with statements, the banks are only going back as far as 6 years.

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Well from SAR I have proof that PPI was applied to account from 1989 to 1997 - I was wondering if Barclays could be compelled to make a payment based on a average yearly balance which I've heard some people have been paid - no references though I'm afraid

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Hi there

- I'm rather confused re ppi payouts using the fos spreadsheet -

 

I'm currently awaiting a payout from barclaycard and foolishly didn't do a spreadsheet when I had the statements.

 

Effectively the account has run at nearly 16k for last 7 yrs but has had ppi on it from 1989 till late 1997.

 

The only PPI I have statements for comes to about 600 quid in payments which using the spreadsheet comes to about 900 quid with interest.

Surely this can't be right?

 

I would have thought that the 600 quid would be applied to the account from that date negating the interest on that 600

and also therefore increasing the amount paid off the principle by the monthly payments.

 

If I work on 25% on the 600 for the 6 years plus the amount each month that would be applied to the principle as a result I make it to be about 12k to be taken off my account balance

- does this seem possible or am I barking up completely the wrong tree?

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If you fill in the spreadsheet correctly it will reconstruct the account as tough the PPI and associated interest had not been applied and ten gives you the figure for the potential award.

 

Post up the spreadsheet you have prepared so we can see what it looks like.

 

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barclaycard are known to take the PPI figure from the earliest 3 statements

and back calculate that in a decreasing manner to the start of the A/C.

 

just type in barclaycard PPI

 

in our gray toolbar search box.

 

DO NOT TRUST THEM

 

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barclaycard are known to take the PPI figure from the earliest 3 statements

and back calculate that in a decreasing manner to the start of the A/C.

 

just type in barclaycard PPI

 

in our gray toolbar search box.

 

DO NOT TRUST THEM

 

dx

 

Sorry for the second thread thought slightly different issue - however I'll keep an eye on them!

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I'll post the spreadsheet tomorrow or should I pm it? Anyway when you say barclaycard take 1st 3 ppi payment then average it out - in my case would that mean 3 payments in 2006 then run that backwards to 1989 when it started (decreasing of course)? Or does it mean they'll just look at 3 payments and run an average forward to 200z when I cancelled it?

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no backwards on missing data

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You will need this spreadsheet.

 

FosCISheet v101.xls

 

BC stopped the PPI in October 2007 but the balance on the account included the PPI and associated interest up to that date. The PPI balance and interest was £1176.87.

 

In the attached spreadsheet, enter that figure as the PPI payment and the "from" date should be set to 1/11/07. The "to" date should be set to today and the interest rate should be set at the purchase rate they were charging on the card.

 

This sheet will give you another figure...add it to the result of the sheet you have already done and you should be there.

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Well its late January and offer from BC not turned up yet.

 

The offer according to customer services bod is with the dept that deals with this.

 

However this dept in BC is so focused on getting their work done they have no telephone to be contacted on

- not even on the internal BC system.

 

Utter [naughty word] I think but not much I can do unless anyone knows different?

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Well the offer has finally arrived and is less than it should be if I had more statements but more than I expected. So a win as far as I can see at present. Now in waiting game having sent my acceptance back by special delivery so I know when its arrived.

 

Now my main question is about when the payment is likely to arrive. I requested BACS as I don't want delays with cheques and postal delivery errors. B/C are quoting 28 days which I think is ridiculous as its a matter of receiving form then paying. However is this 28 working days (ie 5 1/2 weeks) or a straight 28 days (4 weeks)?

 

Incidently how can an organisation that depends on us spending money 24/7 only operate 9 to 3.30 monday to Friday when paying its customers back?

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They quoted 28 days to me also.

 

I accepted on August 14 2012 and received payment by BACS almost 60 days later....

 

I phoned them a lot of times chasing the payment in the early days.... They probably delayed me because of my persistence lol.

 

Hope your payment arrives more quickly!

It never rains but it pours...

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They quoted 28 days to me also.

 

I accepted on August 14 2012 and received payment by BACS almost 60 days later....

 

I phoned them a lot of times chasing the payment in the early days.... They probably delayed me because of my persistence lol.

 

Hope your payment arrives more quickly!

 

Well that's not reassuring but I shall wait and see. I did try the if its delayed then I'll need payment revised upwards for interest but they have countered with its calculated on 8 weeks payment window. That's a more likely payment date I think. I'll continue to chase as I'm really annoyed by their delaying tactics.

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Well todays "chasing" phone call was slightly productive in that the customer service rep has confirmed the 28 day payment window starts on day they receive acceptance letter. Admittedly they're out by one day as I sent by special delivery and confirmed date and time of signature but I'll allow 29days......

It was also useful to discover its 28days - not 28 working days - therfore 4 weeks from receipt of acceptance not 5 1/2.

Still seems an awfully long time to get a bit of typing done though.

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Well todays "chasing" phone call was slightly productive in that the customer service rep has confirmed the 28 day payment window starts on day they receive acceptance letter. Admittedly they're out by one day as I sent by special delivery and confirmed date and time of signature but I'll allow 29days......

It was also useful to discover its 28days - not 28 working days - therfore 4 weeks from receipt of acceptance not 5 1/2.

Still seems an awfully long time to get a bit of typing done though.

 

Agreed, it is interesting that it takes them so long to write out a cheque for a customer in respect of monies they have had control of for a very long time !!

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3: Feel Bullied by Creditors or Debt Collectors? Read Here

4: Staying Calm About Debt  Read Here

5: Forum rules - These have been updated - Please Read

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2: Does your Bank play fair - You can force your Bank to play Fair with you

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Agreed, it is interesting that it takes them so long to write out a cheque for a customer in respect of monies they have had control of for a very long time !!

 

Its not even a cheque! All they have to do is reduce the account balance to zero and transfer the rest by BACS to my account. Simples

 

I can vaguely understand that it will take time to calculate payment (although I assume pretty automated now) but once calculated and agreed how can that take 4 weeks....

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Ah well its been 29 days since the efficient staff at barclaycard received my acceptance - time for another call I feel.

 

Incidently I feel the customer service rep I spoke to last has a different view of reality to the rest of the financial world.

 

Despite my acceptance letter being signed for as a special delivery letter Barclaycard only views it as delivered when it turns up in the relevant department.

 

Does this mean that barclaycard will consider that when I receive their bill it becomes payable in 28 days from the date I open it not from the date it drops through my letterbox?

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I spoke to the Barclaycard PPI team on Friday afternoon thanking them for their offer

to put me back in the position I would have been had they not applied the cover,

but highlighting that they have offered to refund my premiums,

associated interest and statutory interest,

but not for my phone calls,

postage,

cost of SAR and time.

 

Apparently their seperate customer service team will contact me by the end of today - Fingers crossed!

 

Have you tried that?

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I spoke to the Barclaycard PPI team on Friday afternoon thanking them for their offer to put me back in the position I would have been had they not applied the cover, but highlighting that they have offered to refund my premiums, associated interest and statutory interest, but not for my phone calls, postage, cost of SAR and time. Apparently their seperate customer service team will contact me by the end of today - Fingers crossed! Have you tried that?

 

I haven't but I'll give it a go! Totally hacked off that the amount they're offering exceeds amount on card but whilst I'm waiting for payout I'm being charged interest. Obviously if I stop paying them a default will be placed on my credit file so they have me at present

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