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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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I received a parking fine from Manchester city council,

I forgot to pay this and subsequently received a letter that this had been passed through the court to marstons at which time the fine stood at around £100,

 

I had no other contac with the courts or marstons until today when a letter was posted through my mums door,

 

I don't live there, stating that I owed them over £400,

 

this just seems totally ridiculous considering the initial ticket was for £35!!

 

I just need some help before I tackle this tomorrow, thanks!!

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This is VERY simple.

 

As you had not been living at the address, you would not have been served with a Notice to Owner. You are therefore allowed to file an Out of Time Witness Statement at the Traffic Enforcement Centre. You will need forms TE7 and TE9. The forms MUST be emailed to TEC this morning and once received by them...all enforcement will CEASE for approx 6 weeks.

 

Ring the Traffic Enforcement Centre on 08457 045 007. Ignore all of the "prompts" and instead, wait to speak with an operator. She will then email the forms to you. If you need helping completing the form please do post back.

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This is VERY simple.

 

As you had not been living at the address, you would not have been served with a Notice to Owner. You are therefore allowed to file an Out of Time Witness Statement at the Traffic Enforcement Centre. You will need forms TE7 and TE9. The forms MUST be emailed to TEC this morning and once received by them...all enforcement will CEASE for approx 6 weeks.

 

Ring the Traffic Enforcement Centre on 08457 045 007. Ignore all of the "prompts" and instead, wait to speak with an operator. She will then email the forms to you. If you need helping completing the form please do post back.

 

 

Thanks for the advice!! Missed that this morning so will have to do it tomorrow. I did speak to the bailiff today though, he accused me of lying then hung up so I rang the office and the lady there told me that as I don't live at the address the bailiff would send the case back to their office at which point I would be able to pay the debt, which stands at £412, off in instalments, she then transferred me back through to the bailiff who upon mentioning this told me that she was in a lot of trouble and shouldn't have said this as it was untrue!!? He said he would be able to stall payment until the 31st of January, which I agreed to so I could have more time to sort this out.

I have tonight been on marstons website where there is a section for paying online where my balance seems to be £126.44p, do you think I should pay this and ask for a receipt of payment so I can say I have cleared the debt or are they still likely to chase me for the rest if the money!!?

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Thanks for the advice!! Missed that this morning so will have to do it tomorrow. I did speak to the bailiff today though, he accused me of lying then hung up so I rang the office and the lady there told me that as I don't live at the address the bailiff would send the case back to their office at which point I would be able to pay the debt, which stands at £412, off in instalments, she then transferred me back through to the bailiff who upon mentioning this told me that she was in a lot of trouble and shouldn't have said this as it was untrue!!? He said he would be able to stall payment until the 31st of January, which I agreed to so I could have more time to sort this out.

I have tonight been on marstons website where there is a section for paying online where my balance seems to be £126.44p, do you think I should pay this and ask for a receipt of payment so I can say I have cleared the debt or are they still likely to chase me for the rest if the money!!?

Thanks

James

 

Tomtubby is perhaps the most experienced contributor on this forum when it comes in particular to pcn's. If you follow what you have been told you will only be liable for the original £35 pcn...so unless you want to pay £412 (which they will I assure you, be adding to on a daily basis) you should have NO further contact with Marstons.

 

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Hi, I have filed my out of time statements to the TEC, if this is accepted then I will be very happy!! What do I do if they reject my application? Would the bailiffs inflated fees of £412 still stand or does it reset? Really don't know what to do otherwise!

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So I got a call from the bailiff today saying that I had to pay the £412 really don't know what to do next! First he said he'd bisected twice now he's saying he's been 3 times when I'm pretty sure he only came once!!? What do I do?

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So I got a call from the bailiff today saying that I had to pay the £412 really don't know what to do next! First he said he'd bisected twice now he's saying he's been 3 times when I'm pretty sure he only came once!!? What do I do?

 

Have you heard if your OOT application has been accepted yet?

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Hi, I have filed my out of time statements to the TEC, if this is accepted then I will be very happy!! What do I do if they reject my application? Would the bailiffs inflated fees of £412 still stand or does it reset? Really don't know what to do otherwise!

If they do reject your application, you have the right to appeal against the decision.

Do not talk to the bailiffs on the phone because they lie and try and put the fear of God into you so that you will pay their overcharged fees.

Do NOT pay the £412 they are charging. If you have no joy with the appeal [assuming the worst and there is no reason you should ]then before paying anything to the bailiffs we

will get you to write and ask them to provide a list of what they have charged for and then examine them to weed out the unlawful ones.

 

But at the moment there is little point in writing to the bailiffs until you have heard from the TEC.

 

I know it may not be easy, but try and stay as calm as you can. Many on here giving you advice have been through similar events themselves

and know how to nullify bailiffs lies.

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Thanks for the replies!!

I personally have had nothing from the TEC regarding my OOT, the bailiff seemed to know I'd filed this and it was he who informed me that they had "kicked it straight out" I was surprised that he would know about this before me and so told him I had received no such information. He told me that they wouldn't bother writing to tell me! Don't know how much truth there is in that? Really unsure of the next step to take now, I asked him to break down the fees and he told me there was £175 attendance fee which I don't think is either fair or reasonable!

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I have arrived home and I have a letter dated 11th January which only came today sent second class. It states my application has been refused but I have 14 days to contact them for an appeal which costs £80 for a review by a district judge with a hearing or £45 for a review by a judge without a hearing. What step would you recommend next?

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This is VERY simple.

 

As you had not been living at the address, you would not have been served with a Notice to Owner. You are therefore allowed to file an Out of Time Witness Statement at the Traffic Enforcement Centre. You will need forms TE7 and TE9. The forms MUST be emailed to TEC this morning and once received by them...all enforcement will CEASE for approx 6 weeks.

 

Ring the Traffic Enforcement Centre on 08457 045 007. Ignore all of the "prompts" and instead, wait to speak with an operator. She will then email the forms to you. If you need helping completing the form please do post back.

 

Hi sorry for the multiple posts just very worried about this fine and I don't want the bailiff coming to my new address when only my girlfriend is in as I know the bailiff would bully his way in!i have had this rejected by the court now, I don't know whether to forget arguing the fine or just pay it but I really don't think I should have to pay the amount the bailiff is asking for. I have seen there are a lot if knowledgable people on here so I hope you can help!!

I have done some work for a solicitor who owns her own company and we get on very well, she deals mainly in personal injury but do you think she can help me?

Thanks

James

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Hi

So I have had the bailiff on the phone today after emailing marstons a couple of weeks ago and them not responding. This time though I recorded the call. I have asked him to outline the fees, which he did so here they are:

Original fine £112

Letter fee = £11.20+vat

1st visit fee 10.12.12 = £34.50+vat

2cnd visit fee 11.12.12 = £44.15+vat

Transcribing this wasn't easy as he seems to throw a lot of figures out and also seems to be charging vat on the original fine on two occasions!

There is then an attendance to remove fee also on the 11.12.12 I will transcribe how this was explained to me.

 

Bailiff- "when we get on to our second visit we can then charge what we call an "ATR" cos we're then there to (stutter) and that's called an "attendance to remove" which is £175+vat, now, with manchester city council their fee structure is capped, so it's capped at £250+vat which is £300"

 

So any ideas whether this is right or not!?? I have looked at the relevant legislation "the enforcement of road traffic debts" yet I can't see any attendance to remove fee there!!? And I thought they couldn't charge for multiple things on the same day? But I have him on recording stating that he has!

I would like to point out that this man has never been in my home or my mums home I have never met him and have only ever dealt with him on the phone.

 

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