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Totally stupid mistake struggling with money with 2 young kids no excuses so I won't bother justifying just feeling deep regret and absolute fear for what happens next. Sincere moments of madness opportunistic and absolutely stupid Caught shoplifting from sainburies by and shop lifting plain clothed detective (penut butter almond milk chia seeds and nuts ) I only took 3 to 4 items from sainbries listed above First time I did it In saisburies i have never done it before Was given a letter banning me took details but no photo taken I also had on me food items from mns that the store detianed at the same time as they wouldn't let me leave without showing a receipt as they said I would have stole those too (they werent wrong) . I have been to mns a few times in the last month and done a similar thing always general food shop So I left the sainbries store when he let me go and left all the goods there mns.and sainsburies and did not return. M&s and sainsbries are on the same high street Questions Was not caught by m&s will sainsburies share my info and will m&s be in touch? Presume they can check cctv of the time sainsburies detained me and probably find it No police called when at sainburies Scared that mns will also ban me after the event or worse check cctv and have my details and pass to police to investigate I am mortified at what I've done the detective did not mention anything about further letters / police or anything more other than taking my details and giving me a banning letter My fear is they have told MNS and now MNS will investigate aswell they may have their own footage etc...and go further than sainsburies did at that time Mns goods was fruit veg chicken cheese basically all food items Advise please what could I be facing 😭 -
By honeybee13 · Posted
I think it would be very sad if young people were denied the opportunity to do this. Little England strikes again. -
By honeybee13 · Posted
Thread reopened. HB -
By Jambomakaveli · Posted
From having a read of the site before I joined, I genuinely hoped that you would reply to my post. Lol. you seem very knowledgable. argos’s current stance was that yes it was paid for at distance and not in a physical store and I couldn’t inspect before purchase, but had the opportunity to ask to do so when collecting. not to anger you, and I’m sure you’re right…. you’ve seen a few of these before, and paying and then collecting in store would absolutely still qualify as a distance sale and be subject to the distance selling rules. thank you for your help. I really appreciate it. -
no. county court judgements dont set a precedence, though quoting it before any others got to court stage might make them think twice about trying court again. dx
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