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Please help.

 

I had a parking fine a few months ago,

 

I had been made redundant( I am now working ), I completely forgot.

 

I have a son who is in and out of hospital and a few health problems myself.

 

I came home last week to an anxious son holding an envelope with 'DO NOT IGNORE' clearly visable in the window ,

it was a letter telling me that I now owed £450.

 

I wote to the bailiffs company stating that due to my circumstances I considered myself a 'vulnerable debtor'

and therfore they should have all further communication in writing and asked for the parking fine to be returned to the council

so that I could pay it direct.

 

I received a reply ignoring the vulnerable debtor bit,

asking for £10 for the breakdown of charges and telling me to communicate direct with the bailiff.

 

This morning there was a loud knock on the door and it was the bailiff telling me that he knew nothing about the letter

and that he was charging me £54 for the visit.

Please can anyone advise me?

I am frightened to have any friends otr the kids friends round in case he comes back, please help

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I have posted this on the motoring forum but had no replies-heres hopin someone can help:

Parking Fine Bailiff visit please help please

Please help.

 

I had a
parking fine
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a few months ago,

 

I had been made
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( I am now working ),

I completely forgot. I

 

have a son who is in and out of hospital and a few health problems myself.

 

I came home last week to an envelope with 'DO NOT IGNORE' clearly visable in the window ,

 

it was a letter telling me that I now owed £450.

 

I wrote to the
bailiffs
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company stating that due to my circumstances I considered myself a 'vulnerable debtor'

and therfore they should have all further communication in writing and asked for the parking fine to be returned to the council so that I could pay it direct.

 

I received a reply ignoring the vulnerable debtor bit, asking for £10 for the breakdown of charges and telling me to communicate direct with the
bailiff
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.

 

This morning there was a loud knock on the door and it was the
bailiff
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telling me that he knew nothing about the letter and that he was charging me £54 for the visit.

 

Please can anyone advise me?

 

I am frightened to have any friends otr the kids friends round in case he comes back, please help

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you don't need to pay them a £10 fee

 

your car is vulnerable at this point

the bailiffs have no right of entry do not let them in the main thing they after is cash or your car

 

You will need to write to the council copy in MP and see if the council will take it back


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Please do not think that I am being critical of you but, the bailiff has possession of a warrant and this allows him to seize goods if the debt is unpaid. Most bailiffs work on commission and frankly, if you write if advise a bailiff co that you are vulnerable and do not provide any evidence the bailiff company will continue with enforcement.

 

Also, on the warrant it will state the vehicle registration number of the car that you were driving at the time of the contravention. Therefore, BEFORE even visiting the bailiff will KNOW what car you have and its rough value !!

 

Do you still have the vehicle and if so, roughly how much is it worth?

 

PLEASE ensure that the vehicle is NOT parked close to your house until this is sorted out.

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I emailed a letter of complaint and stated my issues with being a vunerable client, they have now ritten and said that they are sending the debt back to the council whew!!

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Please help,

 

I had a parking ticket some time ago,

 

had a bailiff letter and did the right thing

applied for out of time order

but then stupidly left it,

I had a lot on at the time I had been made redundant,

my son was in and out of hospital.

and I was suffering from depression.

 

Today at just after 6:30 there was a loud knock on the door and a bailiff was there,

 

I opened the door then immediately shut it when I realised it was a bailiff.

 

My son (the one with asthma was very upset, asked why I was shaking, then I promptly fainted as I had just got out of the shower.

 

The fine is now over £400, please can anyone help?

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What happened with the out of time application ? Phone the TEC on 01604 619450 with your PCN number and find out. Also explain your circumstances to them. You are in the vulnerable category and the PCN issuing authority will need to take this back from bailiffs on receipt of proof. Speak to the local council who issued the PCN and explain the situation. With a letter from your doctor who treated the depression, they may take the PCN back from the bailiffs, so you can pay the PCN to the council.

 

For a PCN, the most the bailiff could charge is government by law. At £400 it sounds like they are trying to overcharge you anyway, so the council who issued the PCN need to be told.


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By the way calm down, as the bailiffs have virtually no powers at all. Have a cup of tea and start making a few phone calls. TEC and then the council who issued the PCN.

 

If the bailiff has gone and you have a car on the driveway, I would suggest that you drive it to somewhere safe, just in case they come back to try to clamp it.


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Thank you, I will try that but in the past when I rang the council they were uncooperative and said they could nt take the fine back, the letter says they will remove goods in 24 hours even if I am not in

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Thank you, I will try that but in the past when I rang the council they were uncooperative and said they could nt take the fine back, the letter says they will remove goods in 24 hours even if I am not in

 

They can't do that. They can clamp a vehicle you own on the driveway and apply a seizure notice on it. If you did not pay they could take it away and after a period, it could be sold to pay the PCN.

 

Don't let them in ever, as that would be a massive mistake. Don't even open the door. Drive any vehicle to a safe place they cannot find it.


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Thanks, I am heartbroken that my children witnessed that, feel I have let then down, poor lad went to school very worried

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Thanks, I am heartbroken that my children witnessed that, feel I have let then down, poor lad went to school very worried

 

Don't feel that way, as many people are in this situation. The bailiffs should act in a way that is non threatening and they should have assessed your situation.

 

This is the law that applies in the link. If you read the bottom of it, it will explain why £400 appears too much.

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/1857/made


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What bailiffs try to do is charge an attendence to remove fee, van fee or other fee, which relates to taking goods away to sell. Obviously if they have not applied a valid levy and given you details of this, they cannot charge this. Without a levy, they can only charge you the original PCN amount, plus letter fee of £11.20 (+vat) and a visit fee of 28% of the original PCN value.

 

There is loads of quality info online. Just google Bailiffs PCN charges and you will find loads of information of what the correct charges should be.


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I must be losing the plot, just rang the number you gave me, they said there was no time out application received! so she was very helpful said she would email me the application, I will fill it in immediately, but meanwhile the bailiffs letter says that they will remove goods within 24 hours even if I am not in, will the time out be sorted before them, I am at work on Thursday and hope I can concentrate, worried that they will be at my house while I am out sorry for any typos- still shaky

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I have loooked for a template letter and can't find it can anyone point me in the right direction?

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I must be losing the plot, just rang the number you gave me, they said there was no time out application received! so she was very helpful said she would email me the application, I will fill it in immediately, but meanwhile the bailiffs letter says that they will remove goods within 24 hours even if I am not in, will the time out be sorted before them, I am at work on Thursday and hope I can concentrate, worried that they will be at my house while I am out sorry for any typos- still shaky

 

Ignors the bailiff. They will lie and do anythjng to get you to give them money.


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Hopefully by now you have had a cup of tea and calmed down slightly.

 

I am so sorry to ask so many questions but without knowing the current position it is difficult to provide the correct advice.

 

Do you have a car and is it on finance, HP etc

 

If you have a car how much roughly is it worth?

 

Was the car outside of the property today?

 

Did you receive the original parking ticket?

 

Did you appeal the ticket to the council?

 

Did you receive any further notices from the council regarding the ticket?

 

On the letter from the bailiff company did it indicate the amount required?

 

 

PS:

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All letters from bailiff companies will state that they can remove goods IN YOUR ABSENSE and I would assume that you have read this is indicate that the bailfif will break into your home when you are out and romove goods. If so.....you ARE WRONG.

 

The wording is intended to give that impression to you. In reality, it means that if you have a landmower, motorbike, car, expensive garden tables and chairs or other expensive items OUTSIDE of your home these can be taken IN YOUR ABSENSE.

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I must be losing the plot, just rang the number you gave me, they said there was no time out application received! so she was very helpful said she would email me the application, I will fill it in immediately, but meanwhile the bailiffs letter says that they will remove goods within 24 hours even if I am not in, will the time out be sorted before them, I am at work on Thursday and hope I can concentrate, worried that they will be at my house while I am out sorry for any typos- still shaky

 

They cannot force entry for a PCN. It is only for criminal offences for which fines have been impossed that they can force entry and then only if sanctioned by a magistrate/judge which is rarely done. In fact some people say that there is no court process for giving any authority to break into homes. So take this threat as a load of nonsense. The letter will be a standard template and is just trying to give the impression of how frightening they can be, so silly people let them in. Once they set foot into your house, they will say they are there with your permission and just take it as an opportunity to charge more fees.

 

Do the out of time application urgently and send it off. Phone the council to inform them you have done this, so can they let the bailiffs know. Take a photocopy of the application, put it in an envelope and sellotape it to the door for the attention of bailiffs, with a note saying that your out of time application was mislaid by TEC and has now been resubmitted. Job done for the minute. Wait for TEC to process.


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If you follow the advice from Tomtubby above, they know more about this, so will guide you more, if you provide the info.


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What if, say, this lady has a separate garage (as she might, we don't know from the above), can't they break into that as it's not part of the main property? I seem to remember reading that someplace but I'm not up to date on it.

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If a garage is unlocked they can gain "peaceful entry" but if locked....the bailiff cannot force entry.

 

This is after all just a civil debt.

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Hopefully by now you have had a cup of tea and calmed down slightly.

 

I am so sorry to ask so many questions but without knowing the current position it is difficult to provide the correct advice.

 

Do you have a car and is it on finance, HP etc

 

If you have a car how much roughly is it worth?

 

Was the car outside of the property today?

 

Did you receive the original parking ticket?

 

I don't recall getting this ticket, just re-read the bailiff letter, shudder! it is a public road so would have been issued by a parking warden, I have looked on this site and find it very hard to souce template letters

 

Did you appeal the ticket to the council?

 

Did you receive any further notices from the council regarding the ticket?

 

On the letter from the bailiff company did it indicate the amount required?

 

 

PS:

.

 

All letters from bailiff companies will state that they can remove goods IN YOUR ABSENSE and I would assume that you have read this is indicate that the bailfif will break into your home when you are out and romove goods. If so.....you ARE WRONG.

 

The wording is intended to give that impression to you. In reality, it means that if you have a landmower, motorbike, car, expensive garden tables and chairs or other expensive items OUTSIDE of your home these can be taken IN YOUR ABSENSE.

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no finance worth about £800 , yes it was parked outside today, I don't have the original parking ticket, I have looked on the interbet and rang the Northampton bulk centre they have emailed a 'time out applicationwhich I filled in but their email system is dwon so it won't have been dealt with yet. I will right to the council asking for a copy of the fine plus photograpahic evidence

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