Universal Jobmatch

[LaughingGirl]

Just about to try setting up an account again, will report back with my experiences...3rd time lucky!?

[blyton1]

same problem as above the apply button is missing from nearly every job ive looked at!

[LaughingGirl]

So much for third time lucky, then.

 

Managed to get to the Gateway screen, noted my details, tried to log in (once and once only) and got the following message:

 

You have incorrectly entered your login details more than the permitted number of tries. Your account has therefore been locked for security purposes. Please contact the help desk for details on how to reactivate your account. Click on the button below to return to the portal homepage.

 

I think it may be time to rethink my signature, folks.

[Nystagmite]

same problem as above the apply button is missing from nearly every job ive looked at!

 

Take a screen print (using the Prnt Scrn (print screen) button) and show the job centre.

[RebeccaPidgeon]

Sounds like the whole point of this is to give people impossible tasks to do so as to kick them off benefits when they can't do them. No doubt it will crash and burn when like every government IT project ever the entire system is proven to be impractical. Not been tested on the JC offices then, eh? My my... anyway, what's their justification for the hours in front of it? Surely, if it's automated, then once you program it with your CV it should send you alerts when it finds compatible work. Why are claimants being asked to sit in front of it? How can they do that if they've got pay as you go phone web access? What if there's no internet where you live, not even in the library if there's one left after the cuts? Why aren't Labour screaming about this? I can't see how they can begin to justify forcing this system on people when clearly it's not accessible to many, many claimants. If they did it properly it could be useful assuming non-IT-literate employers can put jobs on it easily. Aspects could indeed be useful but not the way they're doing it.

It really depends on the candidate... if they are up to speed on the Job Search Issue, provide a comprehensive log of jobs that they have applied for during the preceding two weeks of any claim, then the Clerk processing a candidates claim at signing will be less minded to examine a Universal Jobmatch record.

 

However, irrespective of whether a candidate creates a Universal JobMatch record, which requires the candidate to agree to a defacto Data Protection Waiver which allows the DWP to process candidate data in whatever way it deems fit, and for the DWP to relay personal data to any W2W Pimp, a candidate may still use Universal Job Match as a jobsearch facility, and apply for jobs bypassing the UJ System where jobs are logged.

 

Each vacancy has a Unique Job Centre Plus Reference Number, and all the candidate needs to do is, for every job which they apply for accessed through UJ, for them simply to prepare a paper based log of those vacancies.

 

Unfortunately, the company given the contract for Universal Job Match does not have a 100% security record where protecting Personal Data is concerned.

[SWLABR9]

Where will clerks at the JC be finding the time to do all this examining? Are there so many of them they lounge around on their hands now? When I was signing on (have to be 20 years ago) most of the time they simply didn't have the time (or, I gathered, the inclination) to bother checking anyone's jobsearch logs, which were written into a little booklet you had to bring with you. And if someone's applying online and jobsearching online, they won't be meeting JC advisors, will they? I'm wondering if the plan is for software to check onsite activity and flag up anything and everything outside a predetermined norm, which will of course mean eveyone gets sanctioned, everyone, all the time.

[Nimitz]

i've also been on the universal jobmatch site and atm it looks like you can search and apply for jobs without signing up as it gives instructions on applying, wheather that will change or not remains to be seen

 

Hiya Folks

 

My own personal opinion with signing up UJ would be Data Protection, this is your right in law. The DWP cannot make you sign away your rights, if Universal Jobmatch works for you and helps you get on in life that great, however consider carefully what your signing up to.

 

You can still use the jobsearch facility without signing up.

 

You are under NO legal obligation to give DWP/Ingeus/A4E etc your email address or phone number.

 

Be cautious folks

 

Nimitz

[Les_b]

The problem is, that the button to apply for the position/job is there, but it does not work, therefore how do you prove you tried, if it is immposible to do so?

 

If this goes on, it will kick off big time somewhere. What with the work programme provider taking all job sites off favourites, as well as making it immposible to upload your CV to online applications while on job search on their premises, making it clear they want you to do nothing but cold calling through the yel .com or thompson etc sites.

[Gay_guy1986]

I can't understand why many of you having problems? it works fine with me, the apply button is always there and when I click on apply it ask me to send my cv with it and when i click it send cv and apply the job goes in my applications history of what jobs I applyed and I clicked on request feedback so just waiting for a response.

[Nimitz]

The problem is, that the button to apply for the position/job is there, but it does not work, therefore how do you prove you tried, if it is immposible to do so?

 

If this goes on, it will kick off big time somewhere. What with the work programme provider taking all job sites off favourites, as well as making it immposible to upload your CV to online applications while on job search on their premises, making it clear they want you to do nothing but cold calling through the yel .com or thompson etc sites.

 

Hiya Les

 

The button you mentioned works when I try it lol. (no offence intended) Also there are many many other sites available. Use Google to bring up a screen full.

 

Why do you have to prove you tried it? To meet your JSA obligation you have to look for jobs....but where you look is entirely up to you. The DWP website is just one of many.

 

If your Provider is taking job sites off the favorites, there's no reason why you cant have your own list in your pocket. And its worth remembering that most major companies dont use DWP etc. They advertise their jobs on their own company site.

 

Next time your in Ingeus take this list with you.....lol

 

http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk – around 400,000 jobs on a searchable database.

http://www.fish4jobs.co.uk – around 20,000 jobs.

http://www.monster.co.uk – 1000s of jobs on a searchable database.

http://www.jobsite.co.uk – 1000s of UK jobs.

http://www.jobstoday.co.uk – site used by many newspapers to display online vacancies e.g. Yorkshire Post, Wakefield Express etc.

http://www.totaljobs.com – over 80,000 jobs across the UK.

http://www.jobsearch.co.uk - The latest jobs & vacancies from top UK recruitment agencies & employers.

http://www.jobs.nhs.uk – The first place to go for all NHS jobs.

http://www.everyjobsite.co.uk – Contains links to over 100 jobsites.

http://www.check4jobs.com – Covers local areas.

http://www.workhound.co.uk – Ideal site for graduates.

http://www.brookstreet.co.uk – One of the UK’s most successful agencies.

http://www.alljobsuk.com – Useful site for local jobsites.

http://www.retailcareers.co.uk – Jobs in the UK’s retail industry.

http://www.reed.co.uk – The UK’s No.1 Jobsite.

 

The following companies advertise their jobs on their own company sites:-

 

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/corporate/content/careers/index.jsp B&Q

https://www.homebasecareers.com Homebase

http://www.petsathome.com Pets at Home

http://www.wickes.co.uk/pcat/jobs Wickes

http://www.careers.aldirecruitment.co.uk Aldi

http://apply.asda.jobs Asda

http://costcutter.co.uk Costcutter

http://www.farmfoods.co.uk Farmfoods

http://jobs.iceland.co.uk Iceland

http://www.lidl.co.uk/ Lidl

http://www.netto.co.uk Netto

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk Sainsburys

http://www.tesco-careers.com/home/recruitment Tesco

https://careers.co-operative.jobs Co-op

http://www.mothercarejobs.com Mothercare

http://www.cardfactory.eu.com Card Factory

http://www.clintoncards.co.uk/profile/news Clinton Cards

http://www.hallmark.co.uk ` Hallmark

https://www.theworks.co.uk The Works

http://www.waterstones.com Waterstones

http://www.whsmithcareers.co.uk WH Smiths

http://www.amey.co.uk/Careers.aspx Amey

http://www.balfourbeatty.com Balfour Beatty

http://www.ngbailey.co.uk NG Bailey

http://www.halfordscareers.com Halfords

https://www.argoscareers.com Argos

http://www.bhf.org.uk BHF

http://www.oxfam.org.uk Oxfam

http://www.rspca.org.uk RSPCA

http://www.cineworld.co.uk Cineworld

http://www.odeoncareers.co.uk Odeon

http://www.cashgenerator.co.uk Cash Gen

http://www.cometjobs.co.uk Comet

http://www.dsgiplc.com Dixon’s/Currys

http://www.bhs.co.uk BHS

http://www.debenhams-jobs.com Debenhams

http://www.houseoffraser.co.uk House of Fraser

http://corporate.marksandspencer.com M&S

http://www.tjhughescareers.com TJ Hughes

http://www.evans.co.uk/careers Evans

http://www.jjb.co.uk/ JJB

http://www.matalancareers.com Matalan

http://careers.next.co.uk Next

http://www.peacockscorporate.co.uk Peacocks

http://www.primark.co.uk Primark

http://www.tkmaxx.com TK Maxx

http://www.dominos.uk.com Dominos

http://www.wetherspoonjobs.co.uk Wetherspoons

http://www.kfc.co.uk/join-us KFC

http://m.mcdonalds.co.uk McDonalds

http://jobsearch.pizzahut.co.uk Pizza Hut

http://www.carpetright.plc.uk/careers Carpet Right

http://www.ikea.com IKEA

http://www.poundlandcareers.co.uk Poundland

http://www.wilkinsongraduates.co.uk Wilkinson’s

http://www.boots.jobs Boots

http://www.superdrug.jobs Superdrug

http://www.blockbuster.co.uk Blockbuster

http://www.toysrus.co.uk Toys R Us

 

Hope this helps

 

Nimitz

[LaughingGirl]

Well, I still can't even sign in. I try to log in, it tells me I need to verify my email, I verify my email, I try to log in. It tells me I need to verify my email, I verify my email...you get the picture. at least I know how you can job search for 35 hours now though - I could rack that up just trying to log on to job search.

[Nimitz]

Well, I still can't even sign in. I try to log in, it tells me I need to verify my email, I verify my email, I try to log in. It tells me I need to verify my email, I verify my email...you get the picture. at least I know how you can job search for 35 hours now though - I could rack that up just trying to log on to job search.

 

Why are you trying to log in?... you dont have to.

 

You can use the site as normal without logging in and without making an account.. Having an account is optional.

 

Nimitz

[LaughingGirl]

Why are you trying to log in?... you dont have to.

 

You can use the site as normal without logging in and without making an account.. Having an account is optional.

 

Nimitz

 

because I actually like the idea of being able to match my cv to jobs and apply for them like that - the jobs I apply for on that site are the most time consuming part of my job search, not to mention that a lot of the jobs I'm interested in seem to involve ringing an 0845 number for application detail

[joeski]

sounds to me like this whole universal jobmatch thing has just been set up to purposely trick people into not applying for positions in order for the jobcentre to start sanctioning

[Les_b]

Hiya Les

 

The button you mentioned works when I try it lol. (no offence intended) Also there are many many other sites available. Use Google to bring up a screen full.

 

Why do you have to prove you tried it? To meet your JSA obligation you have to look for jobs....but where you look is entirely up to you. The DWP website is just one of many.

 

If your Provider is taking job sites off the favorites, there's no reason why you cant have your own list in your pocket. And its worth remembering that most major companies dont use DWP etc. They advertise their jobs on their own company site.

 

Next time your in Ingeus take this list with you.....lol

 

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Thanks, it's just on IE that it doesn't work, on chrome the button takes me to the company's home page etc. New UJ site just need bedding in a bit.

Most of what was on your list was once on the faves list on Ingeus' computers but not anymore. To be fair I like using their computers as I cannot print at home, and their phones don't cost me either.

I'm on the mailing list for various sites (total jobs & the likes). Printed evidence of your jobsearch is proof at least that you did look/apply etc...

Still think the work programme wages would be better spent on giving us unskilled the skill & paperwork to qualify for jobs. Nowadays even a simple cleaner has to have cosh papers etc..

[Nimitz]

Hiya Les

 

The button you mentioned works when I try it lol. (no offence intended) Also there are many many other sites available. Use Google to bring up a screen full.

 

Why do you have to prove you tried it? To meet your JSA obligation you have to look for jobs....but where you look is entirely up to you. The DWP website is just one of many.

 

If your Provider is taking job sites off the favorites, there's no reason why you cant have your own list in your pocket. And its worth remembering that most major companies dont use DWP etc. They advertise their jobs on their own company site.

 

Next time your in Ingeus take this list with you.....lol

 

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Thanks, it's just on IE that it doesn't work, on chrome the button takes me to the company's home page etc. New UJ site just need bedding in a bit.

Most of what was on your list was once on the faves list on Ingeus' computers but not anymore. To be fair I like using their computers as I cannot print at home, and their phones don't cost me either.

I'm on the mailing list for various sites (total jobs & the likes). Printed evidence of your jobsearch is proof at least that you did look/apply etc...

Still think the work programme wages would be better spent on giving us unskilled the skill & paperwork to qualify for jobs. Nowadays even a simple cleaner has to have cosh papers etc..

 

Your right, the wasted money is shocking. Back in the 80,s when I left school, proper full time 3 year apprenticeships were so common, you could pick and choose. I feel sorry for the 18 to 25 nowadays, there's just nothing for them to take an interest in and get on in life.

 

I spotted a job in a call center today, every day bog standard job........but they insisted on you having a NVQ level 3 in call center work.......lmao

 

Nimitz

[OwenGravy]

It's all very interesting, isn't it? When your advisor recommends a job at the job centre you must apply, or have good reason not to. This is not about how to avoid applying for jobs by the way, but those who say they have no problem with this consider it more carefully. It is being made mandatory to register in reality. But you don't have to allow access. So you register etc. Now, look at the vacancies. You have the option to apply or 'tell us why you do not wish to apply'. Why? Sanctions will become automated too, and what recourse will you have then. As for the 35 hour per week job search, this will be enforced through monitoring of your activity on Universal Jobmatch. What if the job centre 'match' you with, and send you a thousand applications a week (not likely but illustrating point) you'll be there from dawn till dusk, or 'tell us why...' You see? There will be alot of people suddenly finding themselves with a sanction. Or two, or three. That'll be the welfare bill dropping by a few quid, eh? Well done Ian Duncan Smith, what a clever fellow. That is why I object, because it is not merely a job matching service at all.

Edited November 22, 2012 by OwenGravy

[SWLABR9]

Who exactly at the JC is going to be finding you 1000 jobs? Who's currently sitting on their hands doing nothing down at the JC that has the time for any of this? This might be what IDS would LIKE to happen but hey, he'd LIKE to be king of the world too.

[OwenGravy]

I don't mean literally 1,000, just an example to illustrate point. It won't be JC staff, it'll be automated, matched to your CV etc. Job Centres won't be Job Centres anymore. They'll be Sanction Centres. And they're going to be full of angry and desperate people once this all kicks in properly, and most people having to sign on don't know what's about to happen as they think they're just signing up to a job brokering service. JC staff must know what's coming and know the real impact this is going to have on people, and them to, because they'll be the ones dealing with the human fallout face to face. It's a disaster of epic proportions for all concerned, including the Job Centre themselves.

[blyton1]

hi all

 

posted yesterday about the missing "apply icon" on some of the jobs. just spent an hour on the phone being passed from dept to dept of the DWP. it turns out any job that was posted before 19th on jobcentreplus website hasnt been updated to include the apply icon as yet. so you have to find out the details of where the vacancies are and apply direct! allegedly they are working on this to update all jobs, but by the time theyve finished no doubt the positions will be filled

[san_d]

Has anybody actually used this site? Is there a possibility to send a different cv for to each employer? Or can the see all my documents? If it works like Monster or Totaljobs you can only have one public cv and if you edit it all the otehr employers will see the edits. This would be my main objection to UJB.

[Gay_guy1986]

So far I have applyed for 11 applications, is that good? or bad? Just worried as I sign on tomorrow at 10.45am and no doubt my advicer will look in my account as when i signed up I give DWP authorised to check the jobs I applyed ete but I have also applyed for jobs the other week on the old jobcentre plus website.

[snowy101]

Hi,

 

I am completely baffled by all this. I sign on once a fortnight but have to attend the JC every week. I would like to know when this goes live , i sign on next week so my assumption is i will be forced to join this scheme , or have i already joined without knowing. Also , is there a definitive standpoint i can take? , i have no wish to sign away my data protection rights but like everyone else i can only fight them for so long if sanctions are applied. Sadly , i depend on my benefits & i don`t want to be fighting the good fight with the wrong information. I have noticed a real change in the actions & attitude of JC staff in recent times, so much so i had call to make a complaint on my last visit about one advisor's tone & attitude. The supervisor was IMO just going through the motions when i explained my concerns & decided start looking at my claim & efforts to find a job, i had to remind her why we were in her office & any problems with my claim or job search would be a different meeting. It is becoming very clear this has been designed with getting people to hang themselves by trickery & deception. No civilised society should be sanctioning these kind of methods.

[Nimitz]

Hi,

 

I am completely baffled by all this. I sign on once a fortnight but have to attend the JC every week. I would like to know when this goes live , i sign on next week so my assumption is i will be forced to join this scheme , or have i already joined without knowing. Also , is there a definitive standpoint i can take? , i have no wish to sign away my data protection rights but like everyone else i can only fight them for so long if sanctions are applied. Sadly , i depend on my benefits & i don`t want to be fighting the good fight with the wrong information. I have noticed a real change in the actions & attitude of JC staff in recent times, so much so i had call to make a complaint on my last visit about one advisor's tone & attitude. The supervisor was IMO just going through the motions when i explained my concerns & decided start looking at my claim & efforts to find a job, i had to remind her why we were in her office & any problems with my claim or job search would be a different meeting. It is becoming very clear this has been designed with getting people to hang themselves by trickery & deception. No civilised society should be sanctioning these kind of methods.

 

Withdrawing your data consent has no effect on your benefits. Data Protection Act 1998 and the DWP say so.

[completlyfedup]

Well, I still can't even sign in. I try to log in, it tells me I need to verify my email, I verify my email, I try to log in. It tells me I need to verify my email, I verify my email...you get the picture. at least I know how you can job search for 35 hours now though - I could rack that up just trying to log on to job search.

Well I have spent the last 3 hours trying to log in only to it not moving any further from the login I select submit and nothing happens!!! I must have registered 3 times had 3 verification emails but still unable to apply for any jobs as you MUST have a gateway account to apply!?