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Hi,

 

I'm having a nightmare with HMRC and by no way shape or form am I an accountant and am getting lost in a sea of paper!

 

I've worked several jobs since 2010 mainly due to relocation and in some occasions worked more than one job at the same time (bills have to be paid - so had to clean toilets at the same time as my main job)

 

In April 2009 I started Job 1 and started Job 2 in June 2009 at the same time. Job 2 was put on BR and I didn't have a P45 to give them as it wasn't my main role and was advised not to complete a P46 as it wasn't my main job.

 

In September 2010 I started Job 3 to replace 1 & 2 and handed in my P45 to Job 3 from Job 1. In November 2010 I received a notification of a refund and called to query and was told this related to an earlier year. This was around £343. In this month I also received a coding change for Job 2 from BR to 647L, but was irrelevant as I'd already left Job 2.

 

I left Job 3 in August 2011 for Job 4 which was a temporary role from September 2011 - October 2011, Job 5 was from November 2011 - April 2012 (I received ssp for the whole of March & April). I am now currently in Job 6 and have been since May 2012.

 

In May 2012 I received a P800 notification for underpayment of tax relating to 2010 - 2011 of £585.54.

 

I wrote to them under ESC A19 and said I disagreed with their calculations as I had called to check the repayment was due and that the tax coding for Job 2 was sent even though I had worked for the company for over 12 months as a second job.

 

After hearing nothing for several months I chased up in August and received a letter in September. They agreed the sum was incorrect as £166 was for an underpayment in 08/09 and wouldn't be collected. BUT increased it an additional and amended P800 to £645 as said I had underpaid in 11/12! An additional £60 - but one which I wasn't made aware of until querying the previous years!

 

I wrote back to HMRC in September and called too - only to be told that my file will only be reviewed once more and this is my limit. However - this isn't the original query as they had amended it from an underpayment in 10/11 to one of 10/11 & 11/12. They said they would get back to me in two weeks (27th Sep) and received a reply today to say that they have declined my appeal again because

 

  • they hadn't received a P45 from Job 3 when I left Job 1. (Bear in mind I left Job 1 & 2 at the same time and only received a P45 from Job 2 in May 2012 when I requested one after the underpayment became apparent)
  • Job 5 was on the incorrect tax code (747L M1) Pay of £8450.50 & Tax deducted £1097.40 on P60 issued April 2012

There is or was no reason for me to believe all was not in order and HMRC aren't been transparent by changing the years they're collecting tax for. I can't afford to pay them back the money they're demanding - nor do I think it should be collected as it's a series of errors I wouldn't have been aware of. I paid BR in Job 2 & Job 5 I was on the single persons tax code throughout.

I appreciate this is complicated, but any help anyone could give would be much appreciated.

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You can actually ask them to abandon collection, they have the authority to do that. Send a request by recorded and see what happens.

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Hi - thanks for this.I've sent them a letter twice and have received rejections twice.I've contacted an accountant to look over my documents and they've send to send back for a third more formal complaint highlighting they failed to pick up on the error they'd made in 2010... hopefully this should give them a nudge.

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Keep at it, similar happened to me, took six months but eventually they conceded.

Do it all by letter, phoning is a waste of time.

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Thanks - this seems to be the general theme that you have to create a bit of a fuss to be able to get a response for their errors. It's the most bizarre organisation ever that every working individual is a tax expert - which I'm not... and need to constantly chase them.Needless to say - lesson learnt with these that I need to save paperwork for at least 10 years as the initial request included money from 2004/05!!!

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