Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Paragraph 18 – you are still talking about Boston stolen items. About time this was fixed??? Paragraph 19  In any event, the claimant's PS5 gaming device was correctly declared and correctly valued. The defendant accepted it for carriage and was even prepared to earn extra money by selling sell insurance in case of its loss or damage. New paragraph 20 – this the defendant routinely sells insurance in respect of "no compensation" items (a secondary contract contrary to section 72 CRA 2015) new paragraph above paragraph 20 – the defendant purports to limit its liability in respect of lost or damaged items. This is contrary to section 57 of the consumer rights act 2015. The defendant offers to extend their liability if their customer purchases an insurance cover for an extra sum of money. This insurance is a secondary contract calculated to exclude or limit their liability for the defendants contractual breaches and is contrary to section 72 of the consumer rights act 2015. New paragraph below paragraph 42 – the defendant merely relies on "standard industry practice" You haven't pointed to the place in your bundle of the Telegraph newspaper extract. You have to jiggle the paragraphs around. Even though I have suggested new paragraph numbers, the order I have suggested is on your existing version 5. You will have to work it out for your next version. Good luck!   Let's see version 6 Separately, would you be kind enough to send me an unredacted to me at our admin email address.
    • UK travellers have been turned away at airports because their passports are not valid for EU travel.View the full article
    • i think theres been MORE than amble evidence of that and am astonished that criminal proceedings haven't begun.
    • Yep, those 'requirements' not met to shareholders satisfaction seem to me to be: 1. Not being allowed to increase customer bills by 40% (of which well over 50% of the new total would NOT be investment) 2. 1 plus regulators not agreeing to letting them do 'things in their own time (ie carry on regardless)
    • As already mentioned freely available "credit scores" are fairly useless. All lenders have their own "credit scoring" system, that for obvious reasons they don't divulge. And they're "scored" differently to the freely available ones. As soon as they could, we've always encouraged our two children to use credit cards responsibly... Pay off in full, etc, to generate good history. It's paid off. At quite young ages, they have both obtained loans for cars, mortgage and their credit card limits are through the roof. Personally, I have shifted debt around a lot on credit cards (even financed a house purchase once at 0% 😉) and I've only ever been refused a credit card once, sorry twice by the same company, over many years. They must have something very different in their lending criteria. You're a tight one, Mr Branson.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 160 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Mobile phone debt


warrenuk
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 4138 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi

Have been reading these forums we some interest but need some help on my next step

 

My daughter recently got a letter from a debt collection agency asking for £763.80p for an old t-mobile bill, whilst she acknowledges that she does owe T-Mobile some money the ammount is far in excess of the amount she thought she owed. She phoned them to try and sort it out and they did an over the phone assessment of her finances ( Currently unemployed ) she offered them £10 a month, they said that was not enough and she should pay £20.

After reading your forums I sent them your Subject Access Requst letter. There reply was as follows

Dear / Sir Madam

 

We write in refreance to your recent letter, the contents of which have been noted

Please see a copy of all our notes on the system and also a copy of your final bill, provided to us by t-mobile. ( This is a one page Bill with no break down of charges )

We can confirm that we have not given your information to any other company, and there has been no fees added by Transcom

T-Mobile do not retain copies of the original airtime agreement at there is no regulatory ""act"" that requires them to do so, being a service agreement of airtime and/or telephone handsets/equipment.

 

All they sent was their breakdown of movements, a one page bill from t-mobile dated 4th March 2010 and a copy of a girobank slip.

 

How would you procede from here

Thanks

Warren

Link to post
Share on other sites

wasted £10, you only send a SAR to the OC, the debt collector will have nothing worthy of note on you. get in touch with tmobile and query the amount of the final bill and demand a full breakdown.

 

write to the Debt collector (DCA) (dont phone ever) and tell them that you dispute the amount and until such times as tmobile have the decency to submit a full breakdown, they aint getting a penny.

 

Also you tell them what you can afford not the other way round

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Warren.

 

You say an 'old' bill, when was the last payment made on this account

Any advice I give is honest and in good faith.:)

If in doubt, you should seek the opinion of a Qualified Professional.

If you can, please donate to this site.

Help keep it up and active, helping people like you.

If you no longer require help, please do what you can to help others

RIP: Rooster-UK - MARTIN3030 - cerberusalert

Link to post
Share on other sites

Personally I'd be pretty unimpressed at the scant information they have sent. If they cannot prove there was actually a contract in place then I don't see how they could get this past a judge.

 

However, did you SAR the DCA or T-Mobile themselves? Also, has the DCA purchased this debt or are they still just T-Mobile's agent?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Deal with T-Mobile, but do keep the DCA advised about what is going on. There are a couple of DCA's who are issuing statutory demands threatening bankruptcy for such small debts.

 

When you deal with T-Mobile, do make sure that any issues are subject to any necessary formal complaints, as then these are formally note and then she may get a proper response. If a debt is in dispute, DCA's should stop collection activity, until the dispute is resolved.

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

 

If you want advice on your thread please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

All the DCA (who I suspect will be lowells??) need to be told is to clear off account is disputed end of.

It is up to the original creditor to inform their chosen third party goons of the current state of play.

 

Definitely enter into T-mobile's complaints procedure, http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/service/contact-us/email/comments/

 

And exactly how old is this?

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...
Hi

Have been reading these forums we some interest but need some help on my next step

 

"My daughter recently got a letter from a debt collection agency asking for £763.80p for an old t-mobile bill,"

 

 

What you are dealing with here is a buyer of buckets full of old debt for pennies who will attempt to screw as much as possible from you backed up by an indifferent solicitors for whom its an 'earner' with very little effort, by using the 'robust' US methods adopted by, for example, Arrow Global and which gained them a 600% increase in monies claimed and which attracted RBOS to buy a major part of Arrow Global, Guernsey - screwing UK consumers in order to make (?) excessive profits for the UK consumer. It is now a successful industry, by example as it were, full of chancers trying to cash in on people who have let protecting evidence simply 'dissapear' over time.

 

I will be in court soon (by choice, I'm going to nail these scumbags with 'fraud') because I want to see just how far one-such is willing to go by using due process of law to break the law.

 

I will give a full report, and which might send these **** back under the rocks they came from, but don't hold your breath, when the issue resolves in court.

 

Get an 'origin of debt' statement from whoever pursues you - they falsified mine and in a manner I can evidence to show the debt they pursue is not even mine!

 

They want to talk to you/or you to contact them just in case you mention a company (as I did) when trying to remember stuff, and they use that name to pursue a debt, knock up a phoney bill etc.

 

Check my submission today on mobiles.co.uk and Carphone Warehouse to see where the £700+ bill might have been constructed from - usually a breach of contract claim for a lost 2 year contract, and Vodafone attempting to gain money by false pretences from me in a similar revenue earning [problem].

 

I was beginning to think I was a '****' magnet, but I think there are a lot of companies, even major and supposedly respected companies, who are willing to bear down criminally on consumers until challenged.

Link to post
Share on other sites

T-Mobile (Everything Everywhere) will probably sell the debt, I had a bill from them £800+ there were the usual threats then the debt was sold to Crapquest at which point the amount owing dropped by several hundered pounds.

Link to post
Share on other sites

heres an idea of a guide of what happened when i was dealing with o2 for a friend

 

debt collection letter for £330, no breakdown

 

emailed DCA stating bill in dispute till breakdown receaved, email only, no doorstep callers

receaved reply stating terms and conditions stated doorstep caller could attend anyway#

replyed stating "intrested they felt T&C's overode law and reported to regulators (never sent it anywhere)"

passed back to o2

 

passed to second debt collectors

advised in dispute as no breakdown

 

passed to 3rd debt collectors

advised in dispute as no breakdown

advised would receave breakdown in post

 

4 months later nothing

 

 

they like trying it on

Please note:

 

  • I am employed in the IT sector of a high street retail chain but am not posting in any official capacity,so therefore any comments,suggestions or opinions are expressly personal ones and should not be viewed as an endorsement or with agreement of any company.
  • i am not legal trained in any form.
  • I have many experiences in life and do often use these in my posts

if ive been helpful kick my scales, if ive been unhelpful kick the scales of the person more helpful :eek:

Link to post
Share on other sites

T-Mobile (Everything Everywhere) will probably sell the debt, I had a bill from them £800+ there were the usual threats then the debt was sold to Crapquest at which point the amount owing dropped by several hundered pounds.

 

Is it a bill for a two year loss of contract? If so, no one can force a contract of more than a year on anyone. It is unlawful. And if you have cancelled a contract because, for example, 'customer care' treated you shoddily, wasn't up to what would be expected, then it is your Statutory Right to reject a contract even though the 7 days (by god they lobbied and knocked that down!) has passed- a lot of Distance Sellers (google Consumer Protection (Distance Selling ) Act, 2000 it is eay to read and get on top of your Statutory Rights : and it is criminal offence to attempt to undermine to negate a statutory right.

Link to post
Share on other sites

It occurs to me they dont force a two year contract on you, at the time of taking the contract you sign. If it were unlawful I dont think the networks would get away with continuing to offer 2 year contracts. Further as I understand it there is a 14 day cooling off period on any contract where you can take back the handset and provided you have not run up charges terminate the contract without cost.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...