ATOS subcontracting NHS to do PIP assessments for them

[fightingback99]

In the Guardian yesterday, ATOS who've been awarded the PIP assessment contracts are subcontacting South Lanarkshire NHS Occ Therapy to carry out the PIP assessments for them.

 

Why is our government outsourcing work to a private contractor who then subcontract it back into the public sector, no doubt for a lot less than they've charged.

[count orlok]

ATOS are being paid millions to do a job that should realy be done by the NHS (Doctors etc should be beleived), they cream of a few millions and pay the NHS to do it.

 

So ATOS are getting paid by the taxpayer to do nothing, so that they can then make contributions to the Tory party.

 

In the award from the public sector to the private sector and back to the private sector there will be many back handers and jobs for the boys (MPs) win win (or for the ta payer lose lose).

[count orlok]

I just pray the NHS do a fair job of the assessments.

[debt4get]

if they are working under the ATOS regime then i fear that nothing will change, except we will have 'see we told you they were scroungers even the NHS are finding the same results'

[speedfreek]

Start looking into the inception of IAPT

 

Be afraid very afraid!

[debt4get]

would you like to clarify speedy? IAPT is a new one on me...

[speedfreek]

would you like to clarify speedy? IAPT is a new one on me...

 

Improving Access to Psychological Therapies

 

http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=iapt+dwp&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest

 

Sorry for being cryptic I'm either ****ed or fighting IAPT for treatment atm

 

Strange coincidences

 

mental health assessment;

 

IAPT 20 minute phone call always results in you MH issue being lessened (I have SAR proving this twice)

ATOS - ESA 20 minutes see above

 

[count orlok]

The main worry with this is if the NHS passes you as fit, will they stop your consultations, ops and medication?

[speedfreek]

The main worry with this is if the NHS passes you as fit, will they stop your consultations, ops and medication?

 

No it's with the wait currently 6 months for assessment. Yes that assessment if you warrant treatment!

 

It's at least a year wait after that here before treatment might commence. That's if Government policy hasn't changes so that your treatment is not in fashion then it's go back to step one.

 

I live in London So.. Plus been admitted by the IAPT person who took charge of my case .... It was my SAR that's got me access to treatment! FFS

 

Oh yeah all NHS mental health treatment got a 25% cut in 2011

 

Hey Ho

[count orlok]

I think I gave the wrong impresion or put my answer int he wrong place. I am on DLA, I also need heart opeations every couple of years and quite a lot of drugs to keep me alive.

 

If the NHS do the PIP assessments and pass me as fit, I am worried if they'll then say as there is nothing wrong with me I can't be in need of all these heart ops and drugs, and they'll stop them along with my DLA/PIP.

[Nystagmite]

Isn't that two different things though? My dad will be on medication for life; (although, he is being talked out of coming off it - this will result in on driving licence for 12 months) but doesn't qualify for DLA as his epilepsy is completely controlled by drugs.

[Slatted]

I believe that because whoever does the "medicals" will have to follow descriptors....like for ESA there are some for PIP and therefore that is all they will look at and ask about. They are not asked to diagnose or treat only apply medical knowledge and examination to determine where you fit in the "scores".

 

It is meant to determine if you need help to maintain some independence, alledgedly.

[count orlok]

It is meant to determine if you need help to maintain some independence, alledgedly.

 

It would be nice if that was the reason behind it, but when compared to DLA independance is going to be severely restricted.

[worried33]

This is just completely silly.

 

This amounts to a backhand payment to ATOS, so they not even going to do the work and getting paid for the NHS's work.

[fightingback99]

This is just completely silly.

 

This amounts to a backhand payment to ATOS, so they not even going to do the work and getting paid for the NHS's work.

 

Totally agree. How much more of our dwindling public funds is going to be flushed down the pan in useless private contracts which charge the earth and fail to dleiver leaving chaos in their wake. When they rehash the NHS soon, wonder how much of this will happen.

[spots1]

Sly way of NHS being privatised I fear

[Astro1]

This is only happening in Scotland.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?368508-Some-good-news-for-Scotland

 

By the looks of things, it's down to the daily record newspaper publishing whats been going on with Atos.

 

"THE NHS boss taking over the assessment of claims for a new disability benefit from scandal-hit Atos promises patients will be treated with “dignity and respect”.

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/health/nhs-chief-in-dignity-and-respect-vow-1373842