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I can see a similar question on here but don't want to gatecrash the askers thread & my circs are slightly different maybe. I'm sure I have asked on here before, but no joy.

Son is in 2nd & final year of 6th form, he will be 18 in March next year, & leaves 6th form in May.

He's hoping to do an apprentiship, with an IT firm from May, 100 pounds per week.

I currently work 30+ hours a week self employed, & claim working tax credits, housing benefit etc.

Have 2 teens, daughter is 16 in January & at school another 2 years.

When will CSA payments stop? Relations with the kids dad is cool, but he literally is counting down the days to when his CSA goes down lol (he pays 240 per month for them both which comes straight out his wages on a DOE as he was bad at paying when I was on IS yrs back & I didn't receive it anyway)

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No neither was my ex mine went from 231 to 175 so not too bad although i still had to support my daughter through the final months at college so why do they not have to ????

 

Baffles me, do they suddenly not need to eat anymore at a certain age? Not sure about that! lol

If the ex didn't live so far away I would let my son move in with him, that would please him, not!

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18 or in employment

I USE to pay school trips/ new coats every year/

Holidays/trainers etc!

İ Just pay csa....... NOTHİNG else Thats for The PWC now

You cant have it both ways ladies

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Um, my ex doesn't pay for school trips, trainers etc, so I don't have it both ways, what's your point? Not seeing a relevance to my question up there in your post? ^

So once they turn 18 (even if they're not earning) they shouldn't be able to eat anymore?

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Whats PWC ans since when do you stop being a parent once your child reaches 18 my ex pays £175 a month football and school dinners cost more thsn half of that school trip £375 never mind clothes food home etc meanwhile he pays less.because his new wife has a child yet her ex pays for him how does this work then he has a new car holidays etc i would sooner go without though to be honest because when i decided to be a parent i realised you have to be selfless to give your children the best you possibly can shame some parents dont feel the same!!!!

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No jadey u receive CSA

So WHY should u have it both ways

That's what's CSA for

What I'm

Trying to say is ..........

You chose to receive £ from

CSA then stick by there rules

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Um, my ex doesn't pay for school trips, trainers etc, so I don't have it both ways, what's your point

 

No..... You recieve CSA!

That's my point ......... You use CSA guidelines

Once 18 no more---- stop moaning simples

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How dare you 'you girls' i am a mature lady with a responsible job and usual mortgage etc trying to bring my children up right in fact my eldest has just started uni !!!! All i can say is you must of had a real bad experience with 'a girl' get over it !!!

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No, don't apologise, it still doesn't make any sense. I don't get why I 'can't have it both ways' what have I suggested having both ways?

I'm wondering when CSA stops. And mentioned the fact that if the 18 yr old takes a training job, they get 100 a week, which in my sons case a fair bit will go on train fares. Just curious to know why the PWC suddenly ends up with the full cost for supporting the 18 yr old through training. Food electric water rent (it's not only me needing use of all those supplies)

I don't come on this section much but I get the feeling it has a fair few disgruntled dads that would rather the CSA didn't exist, so they could just shirk their responsibilities without someone saying no way pal?lol

....Seeing as we're obviously ok to jump to conclusions on my thread.

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Önce They turn 18 They are are suppose To be responsible for themselves!

You girls Will never learn

You boys need to learn to be more bitter, your personality isn't ugly enough yet..

/sarcasm

 

Nice to be called a girl though at age 41, your try at being condescending fails with me :)

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Önce They turn 18 They are are suppose To be responsible for themselves!

You girls Will never learn

 

Wow,,I bet all the MEN that are bringing up their children themselves are right pleased with you.......ANYONE male or female who shirks their resposibilty as a parent doesn't deserve sympathy....and if it wasn't for the 'shirkers' there would be no need for CSA!!

Lillibelle

 

I only know what I know cos I know it,I only give advice,I'm not legally trained nor do I pretend to be.

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Well said lillibelle when 2 people have a child together both should be equally responsible. I have always done my utmost to provide for my children why should the absent parent be allowed to do as they please they should be pleased their children have such caring mothers/fathers. I sense in the future lots of lonely people who realise far too late what damage they have done. Anyway must go to work son needs new shoes feeding school trip a taxi service etc etc hope all you caring parents have a nice day

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lol taxi service, yes. I literally only run a car for the school trips, son is hearing impaired & the school he needs to be at is 5 miles away, & 2 bus trips there & back sometimes twice a day (as his hours in 6th form are all over the place) would probably be more than the petrol. And I also have a daughter there too doing regular hours, petrol bill is at least 120 a month. Maintenance I get is 240, I don't begrudge the ex that, I have never thought his live in partner that works full time too should have to pay towards his children, & apparently they don't these days.

But to be accused of wanting it both ways is bang out of order.I literally just wondered what age it stops in relation to what they end up doing.

Maybe i'll ring CSA lol

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My ex played the game too,,paid me £20 a week,,(kid ate that much in a day!!)..I worked my backside off to make sure my son had everything I could give him,,now at 24,he doesn't bother much with his Dad,he has seen through him with no help from me..and thats his Dads loss,,cos my son is a lovely lad,works hard,nice g/f..because I laid down and paid up!!

 

Any parent who puts a bit of money above being a good person deserves to be dumped when the child grows up!!

Lillibelle

 

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Definitely. There are also the men that do pay for them but don't have anything to do with them, my brothers dad always paid maintenance, no problem, yet saw him once a year if he was lucky. Brother tried having a relationship once he was an adult, but it didn't work out & he doesn't see him at all now.

I get on fine with my twos dad, he comes here every other weekend to see them 7 we get on fine. I wouldn't like to rubbish him at all, but they did have to take it out his wages in the end, I even let him off 500 pounds a couple of years ago, I had to give CSA permission to not take that off him, which apparently CSA say I can ask him for at any point, but have I? No.

So I don't think I am being unreasonable. I'm just worrying what's gonna happen when son leaves 6th form, & if he does manage to get this apprenticeship, because I still need to run a car for my daughter to get to school, yet my income is going to go down 400 pounds a month what with working tax credits going down, housing benefit, child benefit, maintenance etc. But son will still need to be fed? lol

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Exactly !! I'm sure his Dad would want him to get on with life,,he just needs to see reason,,your son still needs feeding,supporting and why should all of you struggle? Hopefully he will see your point of view,,(just massage his ego when the subject comes up by making him think it's his idea not to reduce payments) lol Good luck x

Lillibelle

 

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CSA is paid to the maximum age of 19 depending on the childs circumstances. You can still claim for a child when the child is in non advanced education but once a child goes to advanced education csa will stop. Csa will also stop if the child leaves education and doesn't do anything or starts working. However a child can work part-time or throught the summer holidays and csa can still be claimed.

 

Non advanced courses is like you school and nvq, svq etc and advanced is hnd, diplomas etc

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