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hi all, i am currently paying csa at £400 a month for my daughter who is 18 and in full time non advanced education, she only does 2 days week and not sure how many hours that entails as the training farm she attends are being pretty cagey when it comes to giving me details, i think its 9 till 3. should i be paying, as the csa guide lines state that the child does a minimum of 12 hours per week not including dinners, and also is the farm recognised by the secretary of state as being equal to a school or college, any help would be great, thanks.

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I have posted this before but I had the same problem, I had a son who was over 18 but below 19 who wasnt seeking Job Seekers but was not going to any form of education.

 

I contacted the CSA and asked what their definition full time education was and their reply was. Our definition is very loose but they considered my son as being in full time education. Cant get looser than that.

 

So Combat Warrior you will have to continue paying till she is 19

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i have since been to the farm to see the teacher, manager, as she broke data protection laws by discussing my emails with my daughter, who then slated me on facebook, the teacher then told me, ( lying through her teeth ) that my daughter does 14 hours per week, conveniently for her anyway. i know she does not do this many hours for a fact, and i will prove it over time and send it to the child benefits people, also can i be paying this till my daughter is 20 as thats what i have been told, any 1 about this ? thanks

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i have since been to the farm to see the teacher, manager, as she broke data protection laws by discussing my emails with my daughter, who then slated me on facebook, the teacher then told me, ( lying through her teeth ) that my daughter does 14 hours per week, conveniently for her anyway. i know she does not do this many hours for a fact, and i will prove it over time and send it to the child benefits people, also can i be paying this till my daughter is 20 as thats what i have been told, any 1 about this ? thanks

It will only till she reaches the age of 19. But currently even if she only does one hour a week it is still considered full time education

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Does your daughter go to college 2 days a week then placement at this farm? If she does then the placement hours are still classed as education.

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hi babyd85, she does not go to college at all, she only does 2 and a half days at the farm, she is doing a level 1 in land based studies, what ever that is ?

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hi babyd85, she does not go to college at all, she only does 2 and a half days at the farm, she is doing a level 1 in land based studies, what ever that is ?

 

This to me sounds more like a modern apprentiship, do u know if your daughter gets paid? Even just £50 a week. To still be classed in non advanced education your daughter needs to be going to school or college.

 

Do you know when was the last time the Csa requested a child benefit print to confirm this is still on payment to your ex for your daughter? As when a child finishes education they have the summer to decide what they are going to do but if they do not continue education child benefit would have ended on the 3rd September, if this is the case your case should have closed from the 3rd September unless you are paying for other kids.

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hi my daughter gets £20 a week from the farm, as the manager confirmed this to me when i went to see her, but she was reluctent to tell me exactly how this works, my daughter told me she only works at the farm 2 days a week, and the manager said she does 14 hours a week convenient, as she knew about the csa 12 hours minimum to be eligable for child benefit, i have written a letter to the secretary of state to confirm if this farm is classed as school or college but im still waiting for a reply, im not sure when the csa last asked for a child benefit print i think this is all down to my ex and what she has told the child benefits people, as the csa cant check this.

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I had that with my daughter. The information provided by different personnel differs from the other. The only thing I was able to confirm with them was when my daughter turns 19. Everything was all set then.

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hi babyd85, she does not go to college at all, she only does 2 and a half days at the farm, she is doing a level 1 in land based studies, what ever that is ?

 

This would be a BTEC Level 1/NOCN Level 1 Diploma in Land Based Studies. All of the courses that I've just looked at are classed as full time, and most require 2/3 days attendance or a minimum of 14 hours a week.


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Does sound like that's still classed as full time education. An apprenticeship for example would usually pay £100 per week. This sounds like it's connected to further education.

14 hours a week sounds right if she does 8 hours per day with an hour lunch break?

I just asked my son who is in 6th form & he said BTEC is Alevels, what he's doing (he's doing level 3 though)& still further education? My 16 yr old daughter starts college in sept & will be doing level 1.

Taking home £20 per week, she's hardly able to pay her mum rent? How does mum manage to support her without help from her dad?

CSA tends to be paid whilst child benefit is being paid too. But yes, stops when the 'child' turns 19. Not all full time education ends at 19 though, so it baffles me why CSA should stop just like that, but hey ho...

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