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Hi there can you help with this please,

I have contacted a financial adviser to have a look at my existing plan with Scottish widows,

he told me that the plan i have is not very good as it is a with profits plan and is dead in the water,

he has advised me to switch it to another company which has a fully managed fund and would be better than what i have just now.

 

How can i be sure he is acting in my best interests and not his own,

 

thanks for any advice.

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Could always get a second opinion with another financial advice company.


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Hello there.

 

Have you had a proper report from the adviser with an assessment of your current plan and reasons for switching?

 

We can't give investment advice here, but I would say to you that with profits and managed funds can be very different. You need to understand the risks and rewards involved and make an informed decision if you do change, otherwise you could be unhappy later.

 

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Hi HB,

not had a proper report yet,

he is bringing that next week.

 

Would the fully managed one be better or about the same as the one i have?

 

He said the new one is based on my attitude to risk.

i suppose from that the new one is a bit of a risk,

but will decide when i see his paper work,

 

he said the one i have is not earning much and that i should switch

as S/W do not let you move to a new plan with them if you have an existing one.

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Hi HB, not had a proper report yet, he is bringing that next week. Would the fully managed one be better or about the same as the one i have? He said the new one is based on my attitude to risk. So i suppose from that the new one is a bit of a risk, but will decide when i see his paper work, he said the one i have is not earning much and that i should switch as S/W do not let you move to a new plan with them if you have an existing one.

 

Hello again.

 

As I said, we're not authorised here to give investment advice. Personally I wouldn't have a meeting without seeing the report first and having time to consider it, but it's up to you.

 

I'll try to find you some reading, because managed funds and with profit funds don't behave the same way. Could you tell us if you have a ' unitised' with profits plan with Scottish Widows please?

 

I would also check out what you can and can't do with Scottish Widows about fund-switching if you think it's right for you, you can ring them yourself. And do you remember why you took out the plan at the time? Were you happy with it then?

 

The adviser should define what he means by 'not earning very much' so you can, as I said before, make an informed decision.

 

If I may say, you haven't been told enough to decide what is the best way for you to go and I'm not feeling very comfortable about how this is going so far. But I'm really pleased you've asked us. :)

 

Can you tell us which insurance/investment company is being suggested as an alternative to SWF, or haven't you been told yet?

 

HB


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It also depends on your age and if you have company pension as well?

If below 40 you may be able to accept some risk on how the plan is managed and investments made.

As you know not many making profits at the moment, but who knows in 10years time?

Get a forecast from SW if do not alresdy have one.

Also new plans are usually weighted up front on management fees/costs.

LOt of info on line, suggest you do a bit of research!

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Hello again.

 

I don't have any experience of theis newish service from the government. They're offering free, unbiased and independent advice.

 

If you do contact them, it would be interesting to know how you find them.

 

https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/

 

HB


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Sorry folks should have explained before,

I have five years to go before I retire,

the policy I have just now started in 1989 opted out of goverment state pension,

not paid into it apart from tax & ins relief,

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Sorry folks should have explained before, I have five years to go before I retire, the policy I have just now started in 1989 opted out of goverment state pension, not paid into it apart from tax & ins relief,

 

Hello again and thank you for elaborating.

 

With 5 years to go, you should definitely think hard about whether you want investments/funds that are volatile or stable and predictable, like with profits used to be or maybe still is.

 

Do you think you'll be able to do some research or talk to other advisers?

 

HB


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Just wanted to jump in here, switching 5yrs before retirement is risky as any fees in switching have to be made up and also any loss incurred in those 5 yrs with risky funds also have to be made up.

 

Yes with profits funds are often very steady away and may not have performed amazingly well but also they will not offer very much risk.

 

I am concerned that the adviser mentioned said that you cant switch funds with Scottish Widows, this is simply not true as we do this for clients with Scottish Widows all the time. With the limited info I have and without wanting to presume anything you need to ask a few questions.

 

- How much is the fee to transfer over?

- Is the commission being taken upfront or over a time period (usually 4/5 yrs) The latter over a time period will end up costing you more.

- How much is the renewal fee on the pension plan?

 

You may also want to put in a call to Scottish Widows yourself and ask if you can switch funds if you want to just to confirm. and ask them what the fees for the plan are.

 

If the adviser is switching to generate fees then you want to be careful as you may be paying for something you dont need. Of course he may well be offering a much better cheaper plan which can only be done be switching pensions but so far I am dubious...

 

Good luck

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As you opted out,

your state pension will be reduced by a considerable amount for that.

 

I did that for a few years,

but was advised to opt back in asap as you would not make up what you loose.

( I lost £50/week for just a few years out )

 

I think it would unwise to switch now as the costs of setting up will be too high,

you doont want to take any risks this late in the day IMO.

 

In fact I would be looking at converting your annuity to a pension now

and looking at thise options, including taking the tax free cash element.

 

You realy do have to shop around to get the best deal.

 

Your IFA should be giving you these options.

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Hi folks thanks for all your comments gives me a lot of info to ask the FA.

 

I did speak to S/ widows who said that I could keep my pension with them

but move it to a new plan with them

will have to sort that out with thr FA

and ask why he said I could not do this

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Had my meeting with F/A today,

the fee to transfer over is £925.00,

the renewal fee is half a percent.

 

After talking to S/W last week the person i spoke to did say the plan i have at the moment was dead in the water

and that i could not put any funds into this plan

and offered a stakeholder pension,

and if i wanted to move to something else i would have to use a F/A as the pension pot is over £10,000.

 

On paper the plan being offered looks better than what i have at the moment, the new plan is with Scottish Life.

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Hello again.

 

I'm not totally sure of what's going on here, but please bear in mind that we're not authorised to give advice here. I'm confused about what Scottish Widows have said, I have to say.

 

My inclination would be to get at least one more independent opinion.

 

My best, HB


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If you have I see in a post 5 years to go -forget it those funds take years to be any good, do not make my mistake years ago, managed funds seem in the past o.k. if a very long time to run, not short time. and you may have a written guarantee written in yours at the moment,

 

Give you an idea, my pension ex company was a section 32, after 1st 3 years no annual funds added due to the economy, so the asset stayed the same for 20+ years, luckily I had it written in the contracT (make sure if you have = a guarantee), and the Insurance company had to honour the pension amount, otherwise it would be about half of what it is now I understand.

 

 

Be careful here. Just a warning, to be honest I wish I never left the old company pension scheme as I would be better off and allowed to retire earlier than I did.

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Had my meeting with F/A today, the fee to transfer over is £925.00, the renewal fee is half a percent. After talking to S/W last week the person i spoke to did say the plan i have at the moment was dead in the water and that i could not put any funds into this plan and offered a stakeholder pension, and if i wanted to move to something else i would have to use a F/A as the pension pot is over £10,000. On paper the plan being offered looks better than what i have at the moment, the new plan is with Scottish Life.

 

 

Stakeholder, once you hit 55 years old I found I could not increase pension payments to a fund I was contributing to, but could take out a stakeholder pension for say £10.00 a month the figure I wanted to increase the old pension,, (Gordon Browns idea that one)

 

Great I get £111.00 less tax every 6 months. It is a minefield, and seems to me that the only people winning are the suppliers and advisers.

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I have a private pension that i'm looking to get access to this year,

I had a financial adviser set this up for me a few years back and they have contacted me to give advice on how best to deal with it to my benefit,

I have been told this will cost around £1,500 for the privilege,

would this be the going rate or should I shop around,

 

Any advice welcome thanks.

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You could try talking to TPAS, the free pensions advice service.

I believe they merged with Pensions Wise, who I would also have suggested.

 

Hopefully they can tell you if your case is complicated enough to warrant spending £1500 on advice.

 

If you decide to shop around after that, there's a website that helps you find IFAs, independent advisors locally.

 

Maybe speak to TPAS and let us know how it goes?

 

HB

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old and new threads merged...

you are over 60yrs now?, there should be no penalty or need to pay anyone anything?


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Hi HB,

I have spoken to pension wise they said they could not give advice on private pension??

only deal with the state pension,

 

Thanks DX,

Would that include the financial adviser I spoke to?

as he is freelance,

or is he exempt from that rule.

 

Thanks

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Hi HB, I have spoken to pension wise they said they could not give advice on private pension?? only deal with the state pension,

 

did you try TPAS honeybee suggested. are they limited to gov pensions?

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Hi HB, I have spoken to pension wise they said they could not give advice on private pension?? only deal with the state pension,

 

Thanks DX, Would that include the financial adviser I spoke to? as he is freelance, or is he exempt from that rule.

 

Thanks

 

what rule?


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did you try TPAS honeybee suggested. are they limited to gov pensions?

i see they are together.

they dont seem to be limited to state pensions though, according to their site. '...We help resolve issues that you may have with public or private pension schemes or policies...' etc

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depends on the size of the pot and what you intend to do about things.

 

If you go for a traditional pension at this point then you wont need to pay anyone anything.

 

If you want to take it out as cash the govt regs say that you should take advice if the pot is over £50k

but it is not compulsory to do so and different funds view this in different ways.

 

If it is your FA telling you this

then you are still being led a merry dance by someone who has profited from you for years.

 

Who is the pension co,

how big is the pot and waht do you want to do with the money.

 

The TPAS can advise on whether the rues of the scheme have been properly applied and whether you have paid the correct management fees

( your original posts made me wonder whether all this was spelt out properly at the time by your FA)

and also help resolve any issues that then arise should the advice you have been given over the years by the FA or any company you had money with be duff.

 

I have a private pension that i'm looking to get access to this year,

I had a financial adviser set this up for me a few years back and they have contacted me to give advice on how best to deal with it to my benefit,

I have been told this will cost around £1,500 for the privilege,

would this be the going rate or should I shop around,

 

Any advice welcome thanks.

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