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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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On 23rd August 2012 I received a letter out of the blue, text of which I have copied below. It is an attempt to extort money from me by intimidation and actually expresses an intent to steal property from my house.

 

I received no contact such as normal demands for a payment before this letter.

 

I believe many people will be scared into paying this company because of their tactics and I think it unlikely that any part of any payment, thus obtained, would find its way to the council.

 

It has a ring of authenticity about it because it does refer to a possible genuine magistrates order from 15 years ago!

 

I did attend a magistrates court around that time. It was not really a proper hearing because my name was never mentioned in court and I was not given any opportunity to provide a defence. I talked to someone from the council about arranging payment after the event and have no idea if it was paid or not as I have no records going back that far.

 

The Limitations Act 1980 makes to illegal for anyone to pursue this debt because there has been no contact in over 6 years. No judge would therefore give an order to permit a bailiff to take property.

 

-- start of text of first letter --

newlyn plc, letter heading and footer

 

REMOVAL NOTICE

 

MAGISTRATES' LIABILITY ORDER DATED Sept 17, 1997

ARREARS OF: Council Tax Standard & DUE TO London Borough of Hounslow

TOTAL OUTSTANDING: £ (amount between £500 and £600 was written in pen)

 

I have today attended your premises with the intention of levying and removing your goods and chattels to the auction value of £ (nothing written)

 

I will be reattending and goods may be removed even in your absence.

 

If you wish to avoid this distressing course of action

TELEPHONE IMMEDIATELY

 

WE WILL RETURN 25AUG (written by hand)

-- end of letter --

 

Nobody came on 25th Aug.

 

I took the first letter to the police, they took a copy but the officer did not show much interest.

 

I believe others will be scared into paying. That is the reason I have posted this here.

 

I am also curious to know how large this problem is ? I believe that it will become a much larger [problem].

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Welcome to the site.

Have you actually been in touch with the Council after getting this ?

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The Limitation Act does not apply to Liability orders unfortunately.

The Court of Appeal in Bolsover District Council and another v Ashfield Nominees Ltd and others [2010] EWCA Civ 1129 held that there is no limitation period for enforcing a liability order for outstanding council tax.

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However to enforce a court order after such a long time they would need to go back and convince the court they had every chance of success at getting a result... and most judges would query why they did not take action when they had a far better chance of success.

 

I bet even the council don't have records that far back - but it is worth contacting the court to check that this has been paid, or check the RegistryTrust to see if there is anything outstanding.

 

By the way if the warrant is outstanding from 1997 then they CANNOT take goods from you without a further court order, the original warrant would have expired - limitation period or not.

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I forgot to mention I received a second letter today titled "NOTICE PRIOR TO REMOVAL OF GOODS" that is similar to the first one but has red bits.

 

I have phoned Hounslow council, they told me the address this relates to and the actual amount of outstanding which was significantly less than that stated on the letter.

 

I will only deal with the council directly about this and intend on sending a letter to the debt collector informing them so.

 

I will send copies of the threatening letters to the council and ask them to reconsider if they should be using this collector.

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Tony,please be a little more cautious with your wording.

Naturally,you are upset about this,but the firm in question is licenced and contracted to undertake collection by the Courts and the LA.

Can you confirm that both letters have been sent through the post and not left after visits ?

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Ok

So is there any breakdown of whats been asked for ?

Also on the letter that was pushed through the door there should be a name -if you would like to give us this we can check to see that the person is properly certified.

Dont post the name here-click the report icon and send to the site team.

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Oddly enough, there is a name on it in big bold letters. Its quite a common looking name but no signature of course.

 

If my tenant leaves as a result of the threatening letter put through the door, which was not in an envelope, I will hold the debt collector fully liable for all rent lost as a result. I think that would be quite reasonable.

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