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Police probing the disappearance of missing schoolgirl Tia Sharp have launched a murder inquiry, people are asking why did it take so long to find a body in the house at the centre of the inquiry? And how did police lose track of one of the key figures in the disappearance? here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185939/Tia-Sharp-missing-Murder-inquiry-launched-police-body-grandmothers-home.html

 

This beggars belief, what exactly do we pay the police for?

 

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This beggars belief, what exactly do we pay the police for?

 

We pay them to not be "institutionally racist" and to "risk assess" everything else. That is all they do except nick the odd motorist for speeding. Providing of course that it is safe to do so and doesn't offend any minorities.

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personally i wouldnt be suprised to find out that he had moved the body back to the house thinking it had already been searched and was already safe

 

its not nice to admit but people dont always leave people where they lie

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The suspect has been found and arrested, taken to a London Police Station.

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I have a feeling they searched all obvious places such as the bedroom, cupboards, even the loft - so if the body hadn't been moved it may have been somewhere much more difficult to find unless they were definitely looking for a body, such as under the floorboards or behind the bath panel!

 

I just hope and pray she wasn't somewhere such as under the bath all along, I don't even want to think about that!

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We pay them to not be "institutionally racist" and to "risk assess" everything else. That is all they do except nick the odd motorist for speeding. Providing of course that it is safe to do so and doesn't offend any minorities.

Got a speeding ticket recently Fred?

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I was thinking about creating a picture book of policing the community.

 

I have had so many opportunities to take photos of police sitting in macdonalds car park eating macdonalds, sitting in a cafe eating with their vehicle outside. A few years ago at my son's school fete three police officers were participating in 'beat the bobbie' where the kids had to score goals while the officers had to save them. I had to take the money for the stall as they weren't allowed to. I asked them if this was voluntary and they said no, they were on duty!! one was a seargent.

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Got a speeding ticket recently Fred?

 

Tut, tut Woody. As if. I have a clean licence I'll have you know.

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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you can always rely on fred to put a political pc slant on the thread....way to go fred!!!!

however, back to the thread, it does seem strange that a decomposing body was not located at the premises, as according to reports, the whole family have been using the house as a base during the girls disappearance.....though we dont know the details of how and where the body was found, and until police decide to release the information, the only thing we all have is speculation

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I was thinking about creating a picture book of policing the community.

 

I have had so many opportunities to take photos of police sitting in macdonalds car park eating macdonalds, sitting in a cafe eating with their vehicle outside. A few years ago at my son's school fete three police officers were participating in 'beat the bobbie' where the kids had to score goals while the officers had to save them. I had to take the money for the stall as they weren't allowed to. I asked them if this was voluntary and they said no, they were on duty!! one was a seargent.

 

Try this one: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2461940/Ladybird-Book-The-Policeman

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you can always rely on fred to put a political pc slant on the thread....way to go fred!!!!

however, back to the thread, it does seem strange that a decomposing body was not located at the premises, as according to reports, the whole family have been using the house as a base during the girls disappearance.....though we dont know the details of how and where the body was found, and until police decide to release the information, the only thing we all have is speculation

 

Like I said mate, the Old Bill were probably too busy with other priorities to worry about actual policing. What else can explain it? This is not any way off topic, just pointing out how [edit]ing useless I think the police are nowadays, not because of the efforts of individuals within the Police Force (or should I say "Service"), but because of the stupid rules they all follow. I have a lot of respect for individual coppers but not the "service" as a whole and the way it works today. Have a look at this blog and you'll start to get the picture: http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/

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found the grandmothers statement yesterday really strange.. when asked where this guy was? she replied...i dont know he is off doing his own thing...cant say my missus knows where i am exactly, but surely most people in a relationship, normally say, i am off shopping/fisihing/playing football etc etc...not i am doing my own thing today!!!

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This is in my area, the local area was blanketed with leaflets looking for her, and I said at the time what I suspected.... the main suspect (step grandad) is held in my local police station.

 

The forensic evidence will have been compromised by all the people in and out of the house whilst the body was there, and with all the police in the area, so finding traces of where it may have been (if that was the case) would be difficult - one of my sisters is a forensic scientist and she is sometimes baffled by the way crime scenes are handled.

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Tia's Grandmother has now been arrested under suspicion of murder :sad:

 

http://news.sky.com/story/971313/tia-sharps-grandmother-is-murder-suspect

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I just can't understand the publicity she got (I am not disagreeing with it, but all missing children should expect the same). I also guessed straight away that it was something to do with the family. It was too obvious. But to be able to lie on TV the way that man did, is unbelievable.

 

 

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I just can't understand the publicity she got (I am not disagreeing with it' date=' but all missing children should expect the same). I also guessed straight away that it was something to do with the family. It was too obvious. But to be able to lie on TV the way that man did, is unbelievable.[/quote']

 

Him and and the Grandmother are a pair of sociopaths! Disgusting, bottom feeders - a complete waste of oxygen!

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We said home here that is was in the family. The first thing that hit me was, no kid of 12 leaves home without her mobile.

 

As for the amount of searches and the next door neighbours arrest as well, I speculate that the body was hidden next door and that is why it wasn't found during the 3 searches, and thinking that was it, moved it back into his house.

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We said home here that is was in the family. The first thing that hit me was, no kid of 12 leaves home without her mobile.

 

As for the amount of searches and the next door neighbours arrest as well, I speculate that the body was hidden next door and that is why it wasn't found during the 3 searches, and thinking that was it, moved it back into his house.

 

That is exactly what my words were Conniff! What 12yr old would go over the door without their mobile?

 

My OH suspects if she was kept in the loft, that they may even be open lofts (we had this in one house we lived in), and that her body was being moved from one loft to the other - or there was some sort of access between the two lofts?

 

It's all unbelievably sad, Tia has been on my mind since I first heard about it on Sunday - I had my suspicions as to what had happened, I was just praying I was wrong, sadly I wasn't :sad:

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Tia's Grandmother is not the only person who has been arrested - so has a neighbour. By awful coincidence his surname is "Meehan" which was also the surname of the boyfriend of that awful slag Karen Matthews - she of "Me beautiful Princess daughter" fame. There now seems to be a suggestion from the Old Bill that the body was moved around loft spaces which could explain a lot. This just gets worse and worse.

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Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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Tia's Grandmother is no the only person who has been arrested - so has a neighbour. By awful coincidence his surname is "Meehan" which was also the surname of the boyfriend of that awful slag Karen Matthews - she of "Me beautiful Princess daughter" fame. There now seems to be a suggestion from the Old Bill that the body was moved around loft spaces which could explain a lot. This just gets worse and worse.

 

Oh wow! I knew I'd heard that name before!!!!!

 

This has truly sickened me to the stomach!

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I'm not angry with the Police, I'm angry with the lowlife who told them that he'd seen her leave the house and therefore sent them off on a wild goose chase.

 

From the minute this story broke, the outcome was horribly, depressingly inevitable. I don't think I'm going to follow this too closely in the coming months, because I know where it's going. Sad beyond belief...that poor little girl. :sad:

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