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      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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I have combined the DPA & Prelim asking them to work out charges and refund them to my account, if they do it staright away then the figures can be checked when the dpa info comes through

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Your address

 

 

 

[their address]

 

 

 

Request for repayment of charges

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

ACCOUNT NUMBER: xxxxxxxx

 

My request

I am writing to ask you to refund to me the charges which you have levied from my account over the last 6 years

I now understand that the regime of fees which you have been applying to my account in relation to direct debit refusals, exceeding overdraft limits and so forth are unlawful in Common Law, Statute and recent Consumer regulations. If you say that they are not then you will be pleased to demonstrate this by letting me have a full breakdown of the costs to which you have been charging to my account in order to reassure me that your penalties really do reflect your true costs.

Additionally it has now been confirmed that your particularly high level of penalties are considered to be unfair per se by the OFT who reported on the 5th April 2006 and are considered to be unlawful per se in the absence of specific proof to the contrary.

Please supply me with a complete list of transactions and charges relating to my bank account for the period 7th April 2000 to 7th April 2006. Alternatively a complete set of bank statements for that period will be acceptable. For the sake of clarity bank statements are covered by DPA request as set out in law, and should not be charged on a per statement fee.

 

Additionally where there has been any event in my account history over this period which has required manual intervention by any member of your staff or any other person, I require disclosure of any indication or notes which have either caused or resulted in that manual intervention or other evidence of that manual intervention in relation to my banking business with you.

 

If you are unable to supply data relating to manual intervention because there has been no such manual intervention then please be kind as to confirm this in your response to this request.

 

I autherise you to deduct the statutory maximum fee of £10 from the above account no xxxxxxx. You have 40 days in which to comply. Furthermore, if I discover that you have levied disproportionate penalties against me then I shall be reclaiming them and also reclaiming the enclosed £10 DPA disclosure fee.

 

Your responsibilites

I would draw your attention to the terms of the contract which you agreed to at the time that I opened my account. It is an implied term of that contract that you would conduct yourselves lawfully and in a manner which complies with UK law.

 

I am frankly shocked that as a bank that advertises itself as “Ethical”, you have operated my account in this way as I had always reposed confidence in your integrity and expertise as my fiduciary.

I consider that your repeated representations that your charges are fair and reasonable are deceptive and that they have decieved me into agreeing to pay them.

You concealment of the true nature of your charges has prevented me from asserting my right until now.

 

What I require

That you calculate from the information held on my account relating to penalties made and deducted from my account and that the sum be paid back into my account which will also include the £10 maximum charge should you take it from my account for DPA information.

 

My targets to resolve this matter

I hope that you will enter into a sincere dialogue with me about this matter and I am writing this letter to you on the assumption that you will prefer to do this than merely respond with standard letters and leaflets.

 

I will give you 14 days to reply to me accepting unconditionally my request in principle and letting me know a date by which I will receive payment.

 

If you do not respond or you do not respond positively within this time period, I shall send you a letter before action giving you a further 14 days in which to reflect. I believe that these targets are more than sufficient for a large company such as yours with dedicated staff and departments.

 

After that will be no further communication from me and I shall issue a claim at the expiry of the second deadline.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yours faithfully,

 

 

 

 

 

[name]

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