Do I have a case for CD? I really need advice

[8889jess]

One step at a time. Just get it clear what they want to do to sort the problem out.

 

Hi there

Papasmurf if you are there hope you are well and thank you for your advice so far regarding this, I have written to my employer stating that I want a written statement concluding what was discussed within the meeting and HR have now text me asking me to give them a ring tomorrow to confirm the details as requested, I do not want to do this verbally! As they already did this at the meeting! Should I not call them and write to them again to say that I wish for them to provide me with information in letter format? They obviously must have some issues doing this! Best wishes

[papasmurf1cx]

Hi there

Papasmurf if you are there hope you are well and thank you for your advice so far regarding this, I have written to my employer stating that I want a written statement concluding what was discussed within the meeting and HR have now text me asking me to give them a ring tomorrow to confirm the details as requested, I do not want to do this verbally! As they already did this at the meeting! Should I not call them and write to them again to say that I wish for them to provide me with information in letter format? They obviously must have some issues doing this! Best wishes

 

Yes.

 

Also, they should have a grievance policy that they should be following, have they? Are they?

 

If they are breaching their own policy then they could be further victimising you, and that could be a further grievance.

[8889jess]

Yes.

 

Also, they should have a grievance policy that they should be following, have they? Are they?

 

If they are breaching their own policy then they could be further victimising you, and that could be a further grievance.

 

Hi there

Thank you for getting back to me, I wrote to them to say that I wanted to raise a grievence against them, then they called a meeting with HR who said that they could pay me off without going through the whole process of the grievance, so after the meeting I wrote to them to say can you put this in writing and tell me what you are willing to offer me? Now they are ringing and texting me, I don't think that they want to put this in writing!

[papasmurf1cx]

The fact is that you have put in a grievance about a discrimination matter... is that correct?

 

They are refusing to apply their own policy for grievances is that also correct?

 

They refuse to put in writing offers to settle this, have you witnesses that this has been offered verbally?

[8889jess]

The fact is that you have put in a grievance about a discrimination matter... is that correct?

They are refusing to apply their own policy for grievances is that also correct?

They refuse to put in writing offers to settle this, have you witnesses that this has been offered verbally?

 

Yes I do my mother was hiding in the kitchen when HR came out to see me lol I have recently found out that a former colleague who had left the organisation because of the same bullies has also left with a 'payout' in agreement not to take the matter further! I will write another letter stating that any communication that takes place needs to be put in writing thanks again for your help with this, its very much appreciated

[Lilythepink]

following with great interest, as I have a grievance in, but of course I would settle for a payout, but I want it put on record that the trauma, depression and anxiety caused me great pain, and still does. and bullies like this cannot get away with it. I always get everything in writing.......

[papasmurf1cx]

jess be careful on time limits.

You have 3 months from the time of the discriminatory act. If you are writing again, give them a defined time to write back with their proposals to settle and / or to hear your grievance.

 

If they don't comply, issue proceedings in the ET. Don't baulk at it, they will do a jobby in their corporate underwear as they then have to face the prospect of defending in open court.

 

Additionally ACAS then can be involved to settle the matter and a legally binding compromise deal reached.

[8889jess]

Hi there

I thought that I couldn't do anything until they did the final act of discrimination i.e. Dismissing me for being on the sick for so long? As i thought CD was really hard to prove and I haven't given in my notice yet as I need the money and everyone said not to. Sorry if I have got the wrong end of the stick

[papasmurf1cx]

If they are not allowing you to put in a grievance, what are you then supposed to do?

 

Force the issue. Other acts of discrimination and further acts of victimisation can be added later, if it ever reaches that stage.

 

You don't have the wrong end of the stick, but you have to get a sixth sense as to what they are up to and if they are time wasting they are doing that for a reason. That is why I said about getting their Grievance Policy and if they are not keeping to their own time limits then they will hope that the last act of discrimination will fall outside the time limit. So by complaining about victimisation about not following their own policy and they fail to progress the grievance then you have to take it to the ET to show you are serious about them sorting it out.

 

These firms have been this road many times and know the score, you don't and they bank on that.

 

Experience tells us that when you confront them they eventually collapse, even the biggest and worst of them.

 

It is a rocky road so be sure you want to go that route

[8889jess]

Thank you papasmurf, I can sense that they want to just pay me off and I think that they want to do this quickly and cheaply, they have said that they won't put the grievence forward yet if we can reach a compromise agreement but they are taking their time with this and don't seem to want to say what they are willing to offer in a letter they want to do this verbally, I have exactly one month left until it reaches the 3 month mark...

[papasmurf1cx]

Do not give them wriggle room. If you say something, mean it and when they muck you about do what you have indicated you will do.

[8889jess]

Thank you I will write to them today and give them a certain date to reply by. I will let you know what happens, best wishes

[8889jess]

Thank you I will write to them today and give them a certain date to reply by. I will let you know what happens, best wishes

 

Hi there papasmurf

I have been to the doctors this morning and they are refusing to give me anymore sick notes after two weeks time! So I have rang the work and their offer is £2k I feel really worried and don't know what to do

[jackieandwayne]

Ring your GP surgery and ask the receptionist which of the GP's specialises in mental health issues, Then ask for an appt with that one. Just go and be open and honest with them, tell them what you are going through including a possible ET., and if you feel you can't talk like this to the GP then get it written down and handed in before your appt.

[papasmurf1cx]

first write a letter addressed to your GP explaining what has happened, how it has affected you, how you are feeling and state that you feel that you are suffering from a mental illness. Do not be afraid of 'mental illnes' it is an illness as sure as all other ailments. They vary in intensity and can be treated.

 

In the letter you should also explain that for him not to support you by issuing sick notes so you can address the cause of the problem in the way appointed is just not right or fair and that you ask him to reconsider his action. It also may be prudent to ask for a referral to your local mental health teams for specialist advice. You GP should not ignore this or he could become liable himself. You have to be specific in what you are asking. Many GP are not in tune with mental health issues and that is why there are specialists.

 

£2,000 seem rather low. You should NOT have asked the employer at this stage, it makes you seem weak and nervous of facing up to them.... maybe you are but it is bad tactics to show them!!

 

Remember EVERYTHING in writing.