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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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    • Your topic title was altered last June 23 by the owner of this forum in the interests of the forum Anyway well done on your result and thank you for concluding your topic, title updated.   Andy   .
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It's a legal [problem] that is out of order...

 

My sister parked her car in a car park and this is her mistake. She parked at 10.45am. She returned at 3pm to find her car gone.

 

She tried over and over to phone PCM to get her car but there was no luck. The lady kept insisting that she needs to speak to a guy via mobile number, but noone was picking up on that mobile number. We could not obtain the address of the car pound or any other details.

 

The next morning we start heading to slough, and again we still cant get in touch with this mystery man at the car pound. I phone PCM main number again and scream at them to find him because we want the car back.

 

Eventually he switches on his phone (10.30am) and tells us we need to make an appoinment to get the car back. He offers 1pm, we insist 11.15am. He caved him when I blagged "Are you a memeber of the BPA, are you following the guidelines".

 

He gives me the post code and door number. Cant find the place. My sister phones back and he says there is no door number, and that we need to look for Glebe Farm. It wasn't easy, but we found it. There are no signs anywhere in or around the pound to tell people they are at the right place. Just two guard dogs, and no staff. We wait, he shows up.

 

He says they clamped her car at 11.30am, and they towed it at 2pm. Total charge £350.

 

We insisted that we couldnt pick the car up same day because he wasnt picking up the phone. He insisted that shes incurred 2 days storage charge.

 

We asked for some official ID that can tell us he is legally allowed to tow cars, he presented an SIA licence.

 

Now, this is the clever [problem]. They pick up cars, but its IMPOSSIBLE to collect the same day. They either wont pick up or they can say 'appointment only'. Their operating hours are 10am to 5pm, which makes it impossible for working folk to get their cars unless they take a day off the next day from work. Another part of the [problem] is that they dont want you to find the car pound. He clearly lied to me about the address, and theres no indication anywhere that there is a car pound there. This particular pound is located in Ruislip. Are the DVLA out of their minds? Is this all according to BPA regulations?

 

Also, the pricing is insane.

 

If they pick up a car at 2pm, close their office at 5pm, and i pick up the car the next morning at 10am, they can charge me for TWO DAYS storage. Even though I've only had a 3 hour window to get my car, which they would never let happen anyway. He explained they charge per calender day, but i said "you dont even operate per day, you dont even work normal office hours".

 

Out of order.

 

Further more, when you ring the number on the website, a message tells you to ring a mobile number if your car has been towed. But noone picks up this mobile number!! And the number given to me the next day is different.

 

Its like a legal paradox that is out of control in London.

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So what do you want to do about it?

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As I understand it, theres nothing I can do. They probably have not broken any rules, so I was just venting

I think that there is alot you can do if you are prepared to go the distance.

These people are bullies but you can stand up to them if you want to. We would be happy to support you but it will probably mean a County Court action. A county court claim would be failry easy - failry risk free and with a high chance of success.

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Regardless of the signage, the charge is excessive and could be reclaimed back just for that reason. If there was any sort of contract then the OP ws prevented from carrying out his side of the contract by the dilatory behaviour/tactics of the company.

I have no doubt that a judge would be in sympathy with the claiment very quickly and I can imagine that the company would back down rather than go to court and then face the publicity which we could get for them.

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Was there any clear signage in place warning of towing etc?

 

Ill double check later but the sign only mentioned clamping prices (140, or 190 the next day).

 

My post title has changed. Maybe the moderator added "illegally towed car away". I dont believe it was illegal.

 

My concern is the price and their tactics to ensure they hold your car at least 2 days by making it impossible to contact them. Also, you can only get your car back by appointment only, which makes things even harder. Is that all ok with the BPA? Are prices regulated?

 

Ive had to visit two pounds before. Both the next day after my car was towed away. Both were under £180. This Parking Control Management deal seems very very shady.

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Regardless of the signage, the charge is excessive and could be reclaimed back just for that reason. If there was any sort of contract then the OP ws prevented from carrying out his side of the contract by the dilatory behaviour/tactics of the company.

I have no doubt that a judge would be in sympathy with the claiment very quickly and I can imagine that the company would back down rather than go to court and then face the publicity which we could get for them.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you but if it was me and the signage dosn't mention the threat of towing, I would be reporting the matter to the police.

 

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Yes, it would be nice if the police would get involved - but I'm afraid that this kind of thing is scarcely likely to be high in their list of priorities.

 

I think that the most effective way is to do it yourself and that means getting very business-like about it. A single letter, a short warning and then issue the papers.

 

Are the clampers in the same area as you?

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Remember to include the landowner as joint defendant in any court action.

Yes, why not. At the least that would stir it up between them a bit.

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